ZackH Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 All I need is one good day, and unfortunately Sunday looks like the best bet as of now... It looks like later in the week there could be some potential in southern/eastern TX.... but its nothing to write home about. Yes, I am a bit more bullish when it comes to the potential than I normally would be... most likely because I'll be out there. I'm upset I can't get out Saturday, but I am graduating. Funny paradox... I can't chase Saturday because I'm graduating as a meteorologist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 As Brett mentioned, this pattern (specifically this ridge that keeps shunting the primary storm track north of the border) really needs to go... Also, congrats on the degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 As Brett mentioned, this pattern (specifically this ridge that keeps shunting the primary storm track north of the border) really needs to go... Also, congrats on the degree. Thanks! I'm so excited about it, but the excitement is a bit tempered when my celebration chase week+ is falling apart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'll be chasing in western North Texas tomorrow afternoon and likely once again on Saturday. I don't see much of a tornado threat down here either days, but with a few OFBs laying around along with the extreme instability amounts, we may end up getting a surprise or two. I was present for one such surprise on June 12, 2009 in Palo Pinto County, TX. Good luck to those chasing in the Northern Plains, but I gotta stick at home and play with the Texas storms, because everything is bigger in Texas That and Kansas sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Yeah LCL's may be abit high, but there would be a possible window for tor potential across NC Nebraska later. I guess when I mentioned outbreak I meant an outbreak of severe weather. Still some stark differences in the GFS/ECMWF and the NAM...which has an odd backdoor front pushing through Friday evening...and really keeps the severe threat to NC Nebraska...without all the upslope supercell activity like the GFS/ECMWF. BTW I am doing the forecast as we speak....this is going to be a tough one. 00z GFS/NAM aren't making it any easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 This seems like the kind of setup where any underestimation of a given parameter (LCLs, sfc temps, LLJ strength, etc.) could end up turning it much more substantial, or less so. Regardless on the strength of the LLJ, the directional component to wind profiles looks very well defined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 And the 00z GFS is even worse with the S Plains threat next week, yikes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 And the 00z GFS is even worse with the S Plains threat next week, yikes... ...and high theta-e advecting up from the Gulf is significantly diminished after Monday. This is harsh. We didn't have this kind of persistent ridging in the West much of the Winter. I arrive in OKC Saturday. After the potential in eastern KS Sunday, it's looking right now like a week of site-seeing in Oklahoma. Unless globals are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Snippet from new Day 2 and graphic: ...CENTRAL PLAINS...IA...ADJOINING MO VALLEY REGION...AREA OF DEEP MOISTURE SHOULD POOL NE OF SFC LOW DURING AFTERNOON. ALTHOUGH EML-RELATED CINH WILL SUPPRESS DEVELOPMENT THROUGH MUCH OF AFTERNOON...COMBINATION OF RICH LOW-LEVEL THETAE IN CORRIDOR E-NE OF SFC LOW AND NEAR WARM FRONT WILL SUPPORT STG TO EXTREME BUOYANCY...WITH MLCAPE REACHING NEAR 5000 J/KG IN SOME LOCALES. OVERLAID ON SOME OF THIS BUOYANCY WILL BE STG VEERING OF WINDS WITH HEIGHT...CONTRIBUTING TO ENHANCED SRH INVOF LOW AND QUASISTATIONARY FRONT. ANY TSTMS THAT CAN DEVELOP IN THIS ENVIRONMENT WILL DO SO EXPLOSIVELY...WITH RAPID GROWTH TO SVR/SUPERCELLULAR LEVELS. ADDITIONAL CONVECTION SHOULD FORM DURING EVENING...WITH UPSCALE GROWTH INTO MCS POSSIBLE. EARLY STAGES OF LATE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING CONVECTION WILL OFFER RISK OF VERY LARGE/DAMAGING HAIL...TORNADOES AND SVR DOWNDRAFTS. THREAT MAY TRANSITION MORE DOMINANTLY TO DAMAGING WIND WITH TIME AS COLD POOL DEVELOPS. RELATIVE MIN IN TSTM/SVR POTENTIAL IS EXPECTED ALONG DRYLINE BETWEEN CENTRAL-PLAINS LOW AND THIS AREA...WHERE PROBABILITY IS VERY LOW THAT DIABATIC SFC HEATING AND DRYLINE CONVERGENCE WILL OVERCOME CINH AND BREACH EML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye05 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I think everyone is kinda grasping at straws at this point. Keep in mind how bleak May of last was until the late May outbreak sequence started up. We still got the rest of May and June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I think everyone is kinda grasping at straws at this point. Keep in mind how bleak May of last was until the late May outbreak sequence started up. We still got the rest of May and June. Problem is, May 7th-May 21 last year wasn't dead like the pattern is this year. There were 3-4 significant separate systems through that 2 week period... the thing about last year was that big potential systems had high bust statistics until the day of Joplin (and even then, besides Joplin, the rest of the day was fairly unimpressive). We had two moderate busts and a slight somewhere in the Plains almost every single day. This coming week+, we are going to have a hard time even getting a slight anywhere in the Plains besides KS/MO on Sunday and possibly deep south TX later in the week. I did see one possibility of some SD/ND stuff later in the week, also... but looks marginal at best at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reber500 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Maybe a quite First half of May, or all of May is a precursor to an active June/ July? Not saying it's going to happen, but it's a possibility... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Problem is, May 7th-May 21 last year wasn't dead like the pattern is this year. There were 3-4 significant separate systems through that 2 week period... the thing about last year was that big potential systems had high bust statistics until the day of Joplin (and even then, besides Joplin, the rest of the day was fairly unimpressive). We had two moderate busts and a slight somewhere in the Plains almost every single day. This coming week+, we are going to have a hard time even getting a slight anywhere in the Plains besides KS/MO on Sunday and possibly deep south TX later in the week. I did see one possibility of some SD/ND stuff later in the week, also... but looks marginal at best at the moment. uhh, it was pretty dead until the 21st or so. unless you count mod risks that totally fail. blue sky busts are fun though. after being out in early may last yr figured late may into june was worth a shot this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 NAM continues to indicate a very intense convective signature in northeast NE tomorrow, in the region of some of the best parameters in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 This is a side note. The RUC seems to be still operating at the NCEP official site, and COD. The RAP is now featured on Twisterdata. Looks like Twisterdata is the first to switch over to the RAP. I wonder why NCEP web site isn't featuring the RAP, now that this advertised switchover happened. As for the forecast: I am seeing the "tornado ingredients" plot show something in South Dakota today and tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 uhh, it was pretty dead until the 21st or so. unless you count mod risks that totally fail. blue sky busts are fun though. after being out in early may last yr figured late may into june was worth a shot this time around. I think you misunderstood me. Yes, it was fairly dead results wise... I never said it wasn't and I completely agree with you, but it wasn't supposed to be dead like it is this week and what the models are showing through mid month. My point was that is wasn't suppose to be dead last year and the synoptic pattern at the time wasn't showing it like it is this year. I was out from the 7th-21st and I remember specifically 2 MOD busts (10% hatched tornado and a 15% hatched tornado if I remember correctly). One had morning convection mess it up and the other had convection start too early and it turned into a congealed convective mess. The 3rd MOD was the Joplin day. Those two earlier MOD busts, however, had synoptically favorable environments and patterns for regional outbreaks with deep troughs... the mesoscale details just didn't work out. On top of that, almost every day (with the exception of about 3 days in between troughs) saw a slight risk somewhere in the Plains... most of those were conditional and ended up being blue sky busts, like you said... but the threat was still there. The pattern wasn't terrible, the small details just didn't work out. The pattern now, however, shows very little potential at all for even marginal slight risks in the Plains in the coming week (with the exception of Sunday, which is marginal in its own right shear wise). There are some signals for deep southern TX or maybe even a SD/ND threat later in the week/weekend, but its way too soon to see if that will materialize. After Sunday, its going to be tough to get anything going north of central TX for a while. The pattern this May looks 1000 times worse than it did last year as of now, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I agree with Zach on this one. Last year, mid-May was chock full of disappointments and busts. This year, it looks like there won't be many last-minute disappointments, because the synoptic pattern just plain sucks. After looping through the ECMWF and GFS this morning, I can only reemphasize how 2009-esque it looks for the next 10-14 days. As a side note about last year... it seemed like a switch was flipped on May 21. After absolutely nothing going right all year to that point in the Plains, we suddenly got multiple photogenic tornadic supercells on a very marginal dryline day (Sulphur, Ada, Reading/Topeka). The next few days are history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I agree with Zach on this one. Last year, mid-May was chock full of disappointments and busts. This year, it looks like there won't be many last-minute disappointments, because the synoptic pattern just plain sucks. After looping through the ECMWF and GFS this morning, I can only reemphasize how 2009-esque it looks for the next 10-14 days. As a side note about last year... it seemed like a switch was flipped on May 21. After absolutely nothing going right all year to that point in the Plains, we suddenly got multiple photogenic tornadic supercells on a very marginal dryline day (Sulphur, Ada, Reading/Topeka). The next few days are history. May 21st was a wonderful surprise. We watched the Topeka cell from a baby cumulus and followed it until it died. The structure was incredible and we also got the brief EF0. Thursday looks like a possible marginal day at the moment in the Dakotas and Thurs-Fri look like possible marginal days in southern TX... otherwise... blech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 ZackH...University of ND for grad school? I just saw your sig. Congrats big time...my alma mater. You choose an awesome program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 As for the ongoing discussion on May 2009, I don't think it looks nearly as awful as that year was. It is hard to beat that death ridge in terms of suppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 As for the ongoing discussion on May 2009, I don't think it looks nearly as awful as that year was. It is hard to beat that death ridge in terms of suppression. I sure hope not, We leave the 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 ZackH...University of ND for grad school? I just saw your sig. Congrats big time...my alma mater. You choose an awesome program. Thanks! I'm pretty excited to get up there even though my fiance is a bit scared of the cold. It was down to the the University of Alabama Huntsville and UND... but UND gave me the better deal. From all of the professors I've talked with and some of the grad students, I feel like I will love it there. I am also excited about the late summer gorgeous Dakota supercells when not much is going on class wise. When did you attend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I think you misunderstood me. Yes, it was fairly dead results wise... I never said it wasn't and I completely agree with you, but it wasn't supposed to be dead like it is this week and what the models are showing through mid month. My point was that is wasn't suppose to be dead last year and the synoptic pattern at the time wasn't showing it like it is this year. I was out from the 7th-21st and I remember specifically 2 MOD busts (10% hatched tornado and a 15% hatched tornado if I remember correctly). One had morning convection mess it up and the other had convection start too early and it turned into a congealed convective mess. The 3rd MOD was the Joplin day. Those two earlier MOD busts, however, had synoptically favorable environments and patterns for regional outbreaks with deep troughs... the mesoscale details just didn't work out. On top of that, almost every day (with the exception of about 3 days in between troughs) saw a slight risk somewhere in the Plains... most of those were conditional and ended up being blue sky busts, like you said... but the threat was still there. The pattern wasn't terrible, the small details just didn't work out. The pattern now, however, shows very little potential at all for even marginal slight risks in the Plains in the coming week (with the exception of Sunday, which is marginal in its own right shear wise). There are some signals for deep southern TX or maybe even a SD/ND threat later in the week/weekend, but its way too soon to see if that will materialize. After Sunday, its going to be tough to get anything going north of central TX for a while. The pattern this May looks 1000 times worse than it did last year as of now, IMO. i guess during your timeframe it was a smidge better. we were out from the 1st through the 12th (gave up after the KS bust on the 11th). the whole first week was awful... shoot by day 5 we drove the whole day to catch high-based isolated svr storms near abilene to get some fix. after that the pattern was slightly better but there was pretty weak return flow of moisture. i know there were a number of people dismissing the 11th beforehand as problematic despite the decent 500 flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Thanks! I'm pretty excited to get up there even though my fiance is a bit scared of the cold. It was down to the the University of Alabama Huntsville and UND... but UND gave me the better deal. From all of the professors I've talked with and some of the grad students, I feel like I will love it there. I am also excited about the late summer gorgeous Dakota supercells when not much is going on class wise. When did you attend? You'll have your red-tagger status eventually I assume as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Thanks! I'm pretty excited to get up there even though my fiance is a bit scared of the cold. It was down to the the University of Alabama Huntsville and UND... but UND gave me the better deal. From all of the professors I've talked with and some of the grad students, I feel like I will love it there. I am also excited about the late summer gorgeous Dakota supercells when not much is going on class wise. When did you attend? I graduated May 07. It is cold, but then I don't mind cold at all. They get some really fun weather up there for those who are not from there. Some of the best blizzards in the US, and a ton of neat types of extratropical cyclogenesis along the mid winter polar front. Severe in summer is very challenging...one of the harder areas to forecast DMC in my mind...every event always has major question marks. The program is awesome, and 60-80 % UND graduates get jobs in met for a reason. A dedicated staff and awesome research programs. I am indebted to UND. Dr. Askelson is the man up there. Talk to Cmichweather from the boards. He just got his M.S. in At Sci there and is now at NASA doing programming/research. Who is your advisor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 The SPC did a mesoscale discussion for north Nebraska/south South Dakota. Watch will be issued soon. I looked at the NAM for tomorrow-- 6000 CAPE in Missouri. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNstorms Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 The SPC did a mesoscale discussion for north Nebraska/south South Dakota. Watch will be issued soon. Watch issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 the gfs does look pretty horrific overall. stupid blocking patterns. tho i guess i can't complain yet... still about 5 days till 384 gets to my timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Here is the AFD/forecast I did for today through next week. Feel free to bash it, I was furiously trying to finish it and get the forecast out. It was my first full forecast shift. It stunk if you ask me. But I am glad the general forecaster let me do it all...I needed the practice. And this is after doing grids in private weather for a few years. I still felt rusty. FXUS63 KLBF 040938 CCA AFDLBF AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTH PLATTE NE 400 AM CDT FRI MAY 4 2012 .DISCUSSION... ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN THE NEXT TWO DAYS WITH SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF WESTERN AND CENTRAL NEBRASKA TODAY AND SATURDAY...FOLLOWED BY A POWERFUL COLD FRONT SATURDAY NIGHT. THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR A SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER EVENT ACROSS PORTIONS OF WESTERN AND CENTRAL NEBRASKA SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. TODAY... WITH LOW PRESSURE OVER EASTERN COLORADO...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE IS ADVECTING INTO SOUTHERN AND WESTERN NEBRASKA. DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 50S AND LOW 60S WERE OBSERVED IN THESE AREAS AND WITH LIGHT WINDS AND DRY AIR ABOVE THE BOUNDARY LAYER DENSE FOG HAD DEVELOPED. AS MOISTURE CONTINUES TO ADVECT NORTHWEST INTO THE AREA...ANTICIPATE THIS FOG TO STICK AROUND THE AREA THROUGH MID MORNING WHEN HEATING WILL WARM THE BOUNDARY LAYER AND ALLOW FOR THE FOG TO MIX OUT. AS VISIBILITIES OF A QUARTER MILE OR LESS HAVE BEEN OBSERVED ALREADY IN MANY PARTS OF THE AREA...ISSUED A DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. A SHALLOW TROPOPAUSE UNDULATION CAN BE SEEN ON 06Z WATER VAPOR IMAGERY ACROSS THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. THIS FEATURE WILL RAPIDLY TRANSLATE FROM WESTERN MONTANA THIS MORNING INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS. THIS WILL SUPPORT A PLUME OF LOW/MID LEVEL WARM AIR ADVECTION ACROSS NORTHERN NEBRASKA INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. A WEAK SURFACE LOW/INVERTED SURFACE TROF AXIS WILL FORM ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA AS THE DAY PROGRESSES...WITH A DRYLINE MIXING EASTWARD TO AROUND HIGHWAY 61 BY THE AFTERNOON. MLCAPE WILL RANGE FROM 2000-2500 J/KG BY 18 TO 21Z. WHILE MID LEVEL 500 HPA FLOW WILL BE RELATIVELY WEAK...LESS THAN 45 KNOTS...SOUTHERLY FLOW VEERING AROUND TO SOUTHWESTERLY ALOFT WILL SUPPORT EFFECTIVE DEEP LAYER BULK SHEAR OF 35-45 KTS...SUPPORTIVE OF SUPERCELL STRUCTURES. STORMS WILL LIKELY INITIATE ALONG A BACKDOOR COLD FRONT NEAR THE SD/NE BORDER AROUND CHERRY/BROWN/KEYA PAHA COUNTIES AND/OR AT THE TRIPLE POINT ACROSS SOUTHERN SD. STEEP LOW/MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES OF 7-8 K/KM WILL SUPPORT STRONG MID LEVEL BUOYANCY AND LARGE HAIL GREATER THAN 2 INCHES. RELATIVELY HIGH MLLCL HEIGHTS AT 1250-2000 METERS WILL GENERALLY LIMIT THE TORNADO POTENTIAL...ALTHOUGH A NARROW WINDOW FROM 0-3Z WILL EXIST AS THE LOW LEVEL JET KICKS IN...EFFECTIVELY ENLARGING LOW LEVEL HODOGRAPHS AND INCREASING SRH. GIVEN THE HIGH CAPE ENVIRONMENT AND RICH BOUNDARY LAYER THETA-E...STORMS MAY GROW UPSCALE INTO AN ORGANIZED MCS...WITH A THREAT FOR DAMAGING WINDS. SATURDAY... A DIFFUSE WARM FRONT WILL ESTABLISH ITSELF ACROSS WESTERN AND CENTRAL NEBRASKA OVERNIGHT SATURDAY AS A LEE LOW DEVELOPS SOMEWHERE NEAR THE COLORADO/KANSAS BORDER JUST SOUTH OF NEBRASKA. A POWERFUL AND AMPLIFIED GEOPOTENTIAL HEIGHT ANOMALY/VORTICITY MAXIMA WILL TRACK THROUGH THE CENTRAL ROCKIES AND EJECT INTO EASTERN MT/WESTERN ND DURING THE DAY. RATHER SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCES DO EXIST BETWEEN THE NAM AND THE GFS/ECMWF. THE NAM12 PUSHES A STRONG BACKDOOR COLD FRONT CLEAR THROUGH WESTERN NEBRASKA FRIDAY EVENING...WITH HIGH PRESSURE RIDGING SHUNTING THE SURFACE LOW FARTHER EASTWARD INTO KANSAS. AN INVERTED TROF AXIS EXTENDS INTO NORTHEASTERN NE WITH PRONOUNCED EAST SOUTHEASTERLY LOW LEVEL FLOW. SHOULD THIS SOLUTION VERIFY...THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT WILL BE RELEGATED TO ONLY CENTRAL AND EASTERN NEBRASKA. THE GFS/ECMWF DEEPEN THE SURFACE LOW FARTHER WEST ALONG THE COLORADO/KANSAS BORDER THROUGH THE DAY...WITH DEEP SOUTHEASTERLY MOIST UPSLOPE FLOW ALL THE WAY INTO THE PANHANDLE. THIS RESULTS IN A HIGH CAPE ENVIRONMENT EXTENDING INTO THE EASTERN PANHANDLE. THE GFS/ECMWF SOLUTIONS WOULD SUPPORT A POTENTIAL WIDESPREAD SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK WITH A MYRIAD OF SEVERE WEATHER MODES LIKELY. WITH DEEP EAST SOUTHEASTERLY UPSLOPE FLOW VEERING AROUND TO SOUTHWESTERLY ALOFT...THIS WILL SUPPORT CLOCKWISE CURVING LOOPING HODOGRAPHS CHARACTERIZED BY DEEP LAYER EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR OF 45-55 KNOTS AND LOW LEVEL 0-3 KM SRH AS HIGH AS 300-450 M2/S2. MLCAPE WILL RANGE FROM 2500-4000 J/KG...COMBINED WITH 8-9 K/KM MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES...WILL SUPPORT EXPLOSIVE SUPERCELL GROWTH CAPABLE OF VERY LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS. ENOUGH UNCERTAINTY EXISTS BETWEEN THE GUIDANCE THAT DETAILS ARE STILL UNKNOWN...BUT SHOULD A GFS/ECMWF SOLUTION DEVELOP...THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF SUPERCELL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE PANHANDLE CONVERGENCE ZONE BEFORE PROPAGATING INTO THE RICH LOW LEVEL THETA-E REGIME FARTHER E...WHICH WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF DOMINANT RIGHT MOVING SUPERCELLS. A POWERFUL PACIFIC COLD FRONT WILL SURGE OUT OF THE NORTHERN ROCKIES EARLY SATURDAY EVENING...WITH STORMS MERGING INTO AN MCS WITH DOMINANT BOWING SEGMENTS CAPABLE OF DAMAGING WIND AS IT TRACKS EASTWARD DURING THE LATE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. SOME SOLUTIONS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF A POTENTIAL DERECHO AS THIS FEATURE TRACKS INTO EASTERN NE. FOR NOW...GIVEN THE SYNOPTIC DIFFERENCES NOTED IN THE VARIOUS GUIDANCE...SIDED WITH THE ECMWF/GFS AND CONTINUED THE CHANCE TO LIKELY POPS FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. SPEAKING OF THE COLD FRONT...A STRONG PRESSURE SURGE IS EXPECTED AS THIS FEATURE PUSHES OUT OF THE ROCKIES. VERY STRONG AND SHALLOW COLD AIR ADVECTION AND THE LOW LEVEL PRESSURE SURGE WILL SUPPORT NORTHERLY WINDS OF 20-25 MILES PER HOUR GUSTING TO 45 MILES PER HOUR OVERNIGHT. RIGHT NOW...NO WIND HIGHLIGHTS ARE EXPECTED. SUNDAY... COLD FRONT WILL SHUNT THE WARM SECTOR AIR MASS INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS AND MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY ON SUNDAY. COLD AIR ADVECTION WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY. COMBINED WITH BACK END RAIN SHOWERS ALONG THE UPPER LEVEL COLD FRONT...SUNDAY WILL BE MUCH COOLER AND BELOW NORMAL. TRENDED TEMPERATURES DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE PREVIOUS FORECAST...WITH THE POTENTIAL THEY MAY NEED TO BE BUMPED DOWN MORE. RAIN SHOWERS WILL EXIT EASTERN NEBRASKA LATE SUNDAY WITH DRY AND COOL CONDITIONS EXPECTED FOR SUNDAY NIGHT. EXTENDED RANGE (MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY)... GLOBAL GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO STRONG AGREEMENT THAT THE POWERFUL GEOPOTENTIAL HEIGHT ANOMALY WILL DEEPEN AND CLOSE OFF INTO A LARGE VORTEX ACROSS SOUTHERN CANADA MONDAY. THIS WILL MERGE WITH A LARGER VORTEX OVER THE HUDSON BAY WITH A SECONDARY PUSH OF COLD AIR ADVECTION MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS THE CLOSED UPPER LOW TRANSLATES SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE PLAINS. GENERALLY DRY NORTHWEST FLOW WILL DEVELOP THROUGH WEDNESDAY...ALTHOUGH A FEW RAIN SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE TUESDAY AFTERNOON AS THE LARGE COLD CORE UPPER LOW PUSHES ACROSS NEBRASKA. RIGHT NOW THE ECMWF IS THE ONLY SOLUTION SUPPORTING THIS...BUT IT IS QUITE PLAUSIBLE CONVECTIVE RAIN SHOWERS DEVELOP GIVEN THE HIGH SUN ANGLE AND THE STEEP LAPSE RATES. FOR NOW...HELD OFF ON ANY SLIGHT POPS TUESDAY...BUT THESE MAY NEED TO BE INTRODUCED IF THE TIMING OF THE UPPER LEVEL REMAINS SIMILAR. OTHERWISE...RELATIVELY QUIET WEATHER IS EXPECTED WITH COOLER THAN AVERAGE TEMPERATURES THROUGH WEDNESDAY. A LARGE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE WILL BUILD IN THURSDAY AND FRIDAY WITH A MIGRATORY CUTOFF NEAR THE FOUR CORNERS REGION. LARGE DIFFERENCES BEGIN TO DEVELOP NEAR THE END OF THE PERIOD AS THE GFS KICKS OUT THE SOUTHERN ANOMALY INTO THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...WITH ANOTHER POWERFUL NORTHERN STREAM WAVE TRACKING ACROSS CANADA. THE GFS INCREASES MOISTURE TRANSPORT NORTHWARD...WITH AREAS OF RAIN SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS BREAKING OUT ACROSS MUCH OF THE PLAINS. ECMWF IS MUCH WEAKER AND SLOWER WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM...AS IS THE CMC GLOBAL. FOR NOW..HELD OFF ON SLIGHT CHANCE POPS THURSDAY AND FRIDAY GIVEN THE LOW PROBABILITY SOLUTION DEPICTED BY THE GFS. && .AVIATION... DENSE FOG WITH VISIBILITIES TO M1/4SM AND CIGS TO VV001 WILL CONTINUE OVER SOUTHWEST AND WEST CENTRAL NEBRASKA EARLY THIS MORNING. SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS WILL MOVE ALONG THE SOUTH DAKOTA AND NEBRASKA BORDER BETWEEM KIEN AND KVTN ALSO THROUGH THE MORNING. VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED AFTER MID MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WHEN AN UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE DAKOTAS AND MOVE ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA BETWEEN KVTN AND KONL. && .LBF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM CDT /8 AM MDT/ THIS MORNING FOR NEZ035>038-056>059-069>071. && $$ SHORT TERM/EXTENDED...AHSENMACHER AVIATION...POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I graduated May 07. It is cold, but then I don't mind cold at all. They get some really fun weather up there for those who are not from there. Some of the best blizzards in the US, and a ton of neat types of extratropical cyclogenesis along the mid winter polar front. Severe in summer is very challenging...one of the harder areas to forecast DMC in my mind...every event always has major question marks. The program is awesome, and 60-80 % UND graduates get jobs in met for a reason. A dedicated staff and awesome research programs. I am indebted to UND. Dr. Askelson is the man up there. Talk to Cmichweather from the boards. He just got his M.S. in At Sci there and is now at NASA doing programming/research. Who is your advisor? Well, I am not sure about who my advisor is yet... they are suppose to be getting in touch soon about next steps, etc. I have done most of my talking with Professor Poellot (super nice guy) and Dr. Osbourne. I have been in correspondence with Dr. Askelson and I absolutely love him. I am hoping I can upgrade to a GRA on one of his projects next semester or next year, but also wouldn't mind working with Gretchen Mullendore or Dr. Gilmore. I imagine it is tough to forecast up there for severe. But when the supercells form up there, they are gorgeous. I am excited about the extremes in weather. My friend Joel Siegel just graduated with his Masters and he loved it up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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