Isotherm Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Still 90/72 at nearly 6pm. Very hot May day. Plenty of thermodynamic support for these storms. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 House thermometer in S Queens reads 92 degrees During the time it was 94 degrees, my Heat Index was close to 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Going to be very interesting to see whether or not the 1800-2000 j/kg of MLCAPE and steep lapse rates can maintain a severe threat for the metro area. I have my doubts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Local OBS showed I reached a high of 92 with a heat index of 99, it felt like the middle of July outside. The storms approaching from PA aren't as strong as those over NY but hopefully they manage to sustain themselves by the time they reach northern NJ. In some cases PA/NY outbreaks tend to fall apart before reaching NYC, but in this case there appears to be plenty of support for these storms to reach NYC while somewhat maintaining their intensity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 that line west of allentown is really flexing its muscles now. im cautiously optimistic right now, and being from suffolk county thats pretty big lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 831 WWUS30 KWNS 292149 SAW8 SPC AWW 292149 WW 318 SEVERE TSTM CT NJ NY PA CW 292155Z - 300200Z AXIS..45 STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF LINE.. 5NNW POU/POUGHKEEPSIE NY/ - 15SW PHL/PHILADELPHIA PA/ ..AVIATION COORDS.. 40NM E/W /47NE SAX - 47NW SIE/ HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT..1.5 INCHES. WIND GUSTS..60 KNOTS. MAX TOPS TO 500. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 25025. LAT...LON 41687304 39707459 39707630 41687479 THIS IS AN APPROXIMATION TO THE WATCH AREA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE WOUS64 KWNS FOR WOU8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Watch being issued for NYC NW, and SW CT SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WS 318 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 555 PM EDT TUE MAY 29 2012 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 318 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM EDT FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS NYC005-047-061-071-079-081-085-087-119-300200- /O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0318.120529T2155Z-120530T0200Z/ NY . NEW YORK COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE BRONX KINGS NEW YORK ORANGE PUTNAM QUEENS RICHMOND ROCKLAND WESTCHESTER $$ SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WS 318 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 555 PM EDT TUE MAY 29 2012 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 318 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM EDT FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS NJC003-005-007-013-015-017-019-021-023-025-027-029-031-035-037- 039-041-300200- /O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0318.120529T2155Z-120530T0200Z/ NJ . NEW JERSEY COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE BERGEN BURLINGTON CAMDEN ESSEX GLOUCESTER HUDSON HUNTERDON MERCER MIDDLESEX MONMOUTH MORRIS OCEAN PASSAIC SOMERSET SUSSEX UNION WARREN $$ SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WS 318 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 555 PM EDT TUE MAY 29 2012 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 318 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM EDT FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS CTC001-009-300200- /O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0318.120529T2155Z-120530T0200Z/ CT . CONNECTICUT COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE FAIRFIELD NEW HAVEN $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 http://www.spc.noaa....tch/ww0318.html URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 318 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 555 PM EDT TUE MAY 29 2012 THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF WESTERN CONNECTICUT NORTHERN AND CENTRAL NEW JERSEY SOUTHEAST NEW YORK EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA COASTAL WATERS EFFECTIVE THIS TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 555 PM UNTIL 1000 PM EDT. HAIL TO 1.5 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 70 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS. THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 45 STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 5 MILES NORTH NORTHWEST OF POUGHKEEPSIE NEW YORK TO 15 MILES SOUTHWEST OF PHILADELPHIA PENNSYLVANIA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU8). REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY DO PRODUCE TORNADOES. OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 313...WW 314...WW 315...WW 316...WW 317... DISCUSSION...A LINE OF INTENSE THUNDERSTORMS OVER EASTERN PA AND SOUTHEAST NY WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK EASTWARD THIS EVENING ACROSS THE WATCH AREA. HOT/HUMID CONDITIONS ARE RESULTING IN MODERATE CAPE VALUES. SUFFICIENT DEEP LAYER SHEAR PROFILES WILL PROMOTE ORGANIZED MULTICELL STORMS CAPABLE OF DAMAGING WINDS AND HAIL. AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 1.5 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 60 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 500. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 25025. ...HART Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 831 WWUS30 KWNS 292149 SAW8 SPC AWW 292149 WW 318 SEVERE TSTM CT NJ NY PA CW 292155Z - 300200Z AXIS..45 STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF LINE.. 5NNW POU/POUGHKEEPSIE NY/ - 15SW PHL/PHILADELPHIA PA/ ..AVIATION COORDS.. 40NM E/W /47NE SAX - 47NW SIE/ HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT..1.5 INCHES. WIND GUSTS..60 KNOTS. MAX TOPS TO 500. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 25025. LAT...LON 41687304 39707459 39707630 41687479 THIS IS AN APPROXIMATION TO THE WATCH AREA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE WOUS64 KWNS FOR WOU8. are getting optimistic about these storms reaching NYC/metro at severe levels or close to it as of right now john? looks like it isnt that bad of a setup right now currently....till you get to the coast where i am than not so much lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 are getting optimistic about these storms reaching NYC/metro at severe levels or close to it as of right now john? looks like it isnt that bad of a setup right now currently....till you get to the coast where i am than not so much lol The concern is the lack of shear for organization of storms...if we had 30+kts of 0-6km bulk shear I think we could be watching a huge convective system racing to the coast. It looks like it's trying to organize a cold pool...if it can do that, it will move towards the very favorable instability over our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Grr....that South wind from that sea breeze component may really hurt NYC's severe chances especially at the coast. But it may help set up a coastal front to enhance shear when those storms approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 The concern is the lack of shear for organization of storms...if we had 30+kts of 0-6km bulk shear I think we could be watching a huge convective system racing to the coast. It looks like it's trying to organize a cold pool...if it can do that, it will move towards the very favorable instability over our area. i think if my storm shield continues to hold off storms where i am, im gonna put a camera in your place in jersey and stream it to my computer live so i dont have to miss the storms before they die when they get to me haha. you seem to always attract all the good weather where you are, im truly envious of your location john......storms are looking healthy again though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 per coastal in the SNE thread, event has peaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Will be interesting to see how the storms react to the seabreeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 lol you might want to wait until the line gets closer to the area he knows his stuff, there is a reason he would make such a definitive statement. the wind off the water isn't going to help anything in the immmediate nyc area either. nw jersey, mid-hudson valley should do ok everyone else just rain and some thunder/lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Will be interesting to see how the storms react to the seabreeze you mean see how quickly they weaken lol. us coastal folks know how hard it is to get storms on the island compared to NYC on west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 The wind is only off the water at the immediate coastline.We're still extremely unstable. The lack of 0-6 km shear has been noted leading to perhaps not the best storm organization but the cold pool is keeping this thing going for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Ripping sea breeze here with gusts over 30mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 All the good heating gone on the coast. Down 10 degrees. Feels cold compared to earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 All the good heating gone on the coast. Down 10 degrees. Feels cold compared to earlier. Threat is over for nyc on east, chances of general tstorms is also low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 All the good heating gone on the coast. Down 10 degrees. Feels cold compared to earlier. I have a temp of 85 degrees right now which is more than enough for t storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Places east of nyc have lost all of the sbcape we had earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Found this interesting: PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC 658 PM EDT TUE MAY 29 2012 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0550 PM TSTM WND DMG 1 NW KEEDYSVILLE 39.49N 77.71W 05/29/2012 WASHINGTON MD PUBLIC LARGE BRANCHES DOWN FROM THUNDERSTORM WIND. WEATHER STATION WAS TORN FROM EXTERIOR OF HOUSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 thunderstorms, yes, severe no, moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 thunderstorms, yes, severe no, moving on. For the immediate NYC metro area and LI, yes, for the interior, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Impressive record from DET yesterday. ...YESTERDAYS RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE AT DETROIT MI ALSO TIED THE MAY HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORD... THE RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 95 DEGREES SET YESTERDAY AT DETROIT MI...TIED THE RECORD FOR THE HIGHEST TEMPERATURE FOR THE MONTH OF MAY. THE ONLY OTHER DAY IN DETROIT HISTORY THAT WAS AS HOT AS YESTERDAY WAS THE 95 SET ON MAY 31 1895. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonClaw Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Storms or not for NYC, this is one beautiful line: MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0967 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0601 PM CDT TUE MAY 29 2012 AREAS AFFECTED...EXTREME SERN PA...NJ...SERN NY...CT...WRN AND CNTRL MA AND SRN NH CONCERNING...SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 314...315...318... VALID 292301Z - 300030Z THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 314...315...318...CONTINUES. SUMMARY...THREAT FOR MAINLY ISOLATED STRONG TO DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND SOME HAIL WILL PERSIST UNTIL 02Z FROM SERN PA...NJ...THE NEW YORK CITY AREA AND NEWD THROUGH SRN NEW ENGLAND. DISCUSSION...EARLY THIS EVENING AN EXPANSIVE SQUALL LINE EXTENDS FROM NRN VA THROUGH ERN PA...SERN NY INTO WRN MA AND SRN NH MOVING EAST AT 30 KT. STORMS SHOULD BEGIN TO AFFECT WRN PORTIONS OF NEW YORK CITY AREA BY 00Z. OBSERVED WIND GUSTS DURING THE PAST HOUR HAVE RANGED FROM 30 TO 50 KT. THE STRONGER STORMS WITHIN THE LINE WILL REMAIN CAPABLE OF PRODUCING ISOLATED STRONG TO DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE REMAINING INSTABILITY AXIS WHERE MLCAPE RANGES FROM 1500-2000 J/KG. TOWARD MID EVENING...THE STORMS ARE EXPECTED TO UNDERGO A GRADUAL WEAKENING TREND AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER STABILIZES AND AS STORMS BEGIN TO ENCOUNTER THE COOLER MARINE BOUNDARY LAYER. ..DIAL.. 05/29/2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Well, theres our good attempt at a cold pool. Plenty of instability. These storms should continue moving rapidly east the next 2 hours. Outflow boundary entering Morris/Somerset Co now. Could touch off new updrafts. Edit: seems to be doing so already directly behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Well, theres our good attempt at a cold pool. Plenty of instability. These storms should continue moving rapidly east the next 2 hours. Outflow boundary entering Morris/Somerset Co now. Could touch off new updrafts. Edit: seems to be doing so already directly behind it. thats good than for us. instability FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 The outflow boundary is doing wonders now over Morris/Somerset county line from a portion of the line of storms that was previously weakened. There's also a seabreeze boundary which has been evident on radar from Toms River northward through Kings County and just east of Staten Island into New York City and then SW CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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