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Thats according to the GFS.

Euro keeps the marine boundary east of the city and gets the city involved with convection this afternoon.

It edges into the city but most of the convection is focused just north and west.

We'll have to see how the actual radar trends develop to know how far east

things get. Wherever these storms form they will remain nearly stationary

and dump a lot of rain. Could see some nice back building.

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We just had some heavy downpours here at the port in Elizabeth. Storms look like they are starting to fire over western portions of NJ and they are basically stationary. One thing for sure whoever is under these storms that form later on today will get dumped on...

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This is why I hate living on Long Island, very little to no severe weather until August, and any storm that gets close to the area either weakens greatly or it just compleatly dissipates and is just a few light rain showers.

im with you my friend, living here you get a good severe weather event once every few years if that. you hit the nail on the head as what happens around here with the storms.

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This is why I hate living on Long Island, very little to no severe weather until August, and any storm that gets close to the area either weakens greatly or it just compleatly dissipates and is just a few light rain showers.

Agreed. Although I live in Queens I am in Suffolk County a good 50% of the time, I hate when storms die out before they get here.

Queens usually has the best of both worlds. The lower snowfall amounts seen further out on Long Island but with the same heat & storms seen outside of Long Island. I love it (for the NYC area that is).

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Agreed. Although I live in Queens I am in Suffolk County a good 50% of the time, I hate when storms die out before they get here.

Queens usually has the best of both worlds. The lower snowfall amounts seen further out on Long Island but with the same heat & storms seen outside of Long Island. I love it (for the NYC area that is).

Lower snowfall amounts further out?

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im with you my friend, living here you get a good severe weather event once every few years if that. you hit the nail on the head as what happens around here with the storms.

We get some good warm front events. Cold front not so much with exceptions such as labor day 99, that was my favorite severe event of all time.

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We get some good warm front events. Cold front not so much with exceptions such as labor day 99, that was my favorite severe event of all time.

That was the the most impressive storm for wind and hail that I ever experienced in Long Beach.

It was also the fastest that I saw it go from day to night as the derecho raced eastward.

I can still remember driving up to Lynbrook a few hours after the tornado moved through

that location to see the damage.

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That was the the most impressive storm for wind and hail that I ever experienced in Long Beach.

It was also the fastest that I saw it go from day to night as the derecho raced eastward.

I can still remember driving up to Lynbrook a few hours after the tornado moved through

that location to see the damage.

Classic video thanks! It was my first year life guarding and still the most intense storm I have seen. We had winds easily 70mph on the open beach. As the gust front approached it looked like a Saharan sand storm! The sand was lifted a couple hundred feet of the ground. When the gust front hit our shack rumbled like and earth quake. Our 400lb life/rescue boat lifted off the ground and traveled a couple hundred feet. The tree damage in Lynbrook was viable for several years from the LIRR. My favorite and definitely the most intense wide spread severe event on LI in the last 10 years!

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We get some good warm front events. Cold front not so much with exceptions such as labor day 99, that was my favorite severe event of all time.

I've noticed that LI tends to do quite well in ULL / cold pool events, in which convection is propagating north to south. Additionally, NW to SE moving convection can be occasionally fun as well. However, it seems for the majority of summer cold fronts, T-storms are moving W-E, or SW to NE, which tends to be less favorable. Surface wind direction definitely plays a significant role. Any type of southerly component, even SW, you can get a low level marine airmass which chokes the inflow to approaching T-storms.

Actually, I'd argue that most of the NYC metro area does the best w/ warm fronts and ULL/cold pool events. I recall some of my most intense lightning, and T-storms in general, being assoicated with upper level lows, or warm fronts, where low level wind shear is enhanced. Cold fronts produce for PA and western NJ, but I often find the T-storms fall apart once to Eastern NJ, NYC, and LI. Again, this is sometimes due to marine influence. Other situations its just poor timing, when diurnal heating is gone, instability vanishes, and T-storm outflow boundaries proceed to self-destruct the convection.

One year, I think it was 5 or 6 summers ago, we had a ULL parked over New England, with a few days in a row of intense convection spiralling N/NNE to S/SSW into the metro area. I recall a couple severe t-storm warnings for my county.

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I'm a bit confused with the forecasts for Sunday... models clearly show a risk of storms, possibly heavy, on Sunday in a "ring of fire"-like set up, while every other forecast I've seen including local news and the NWS label Sunday as dry, some calling it a "beautiful day". If the storms verify on Saturday night over the north central US and hold together overnight, with a W/WSW flow at 500 mb it would make sense how they would end up over the region on Sunday.

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This is why I hate living on Long Island, very little to no severe weather until August, and any storm that gets close to the area either weakens greatly or it just compleatly dissipates and is just a few light rain showers.

That was my experience living on Long Island where a good majority the city and even western LI get slammed then weakening rapidly when moving into Suffolk then gets screwed with boring light rain rain showers. I just hate that. July and August are better for Long Island when the water temps warmed up and less marine layer is in control. Glad I live in Brooklyn now.

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