Weathergun Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The models and ensembles have been hinting at stalled front/cut-off low pattern after this week. That might keep us out the big or prolonged heat for awhile. But as long don't see too many days that are just cloudy and rainy, I think we'll still wind up a positive departure for May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The models and ensembles have been hinting at stalled front/cut-off low pattern after this week. That might keep us out the big or prolonged heat for awhile. But as long don't see too many days that are just cloudy and rainy, I think we'll still wind up a positive departure for May. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 NYC is slightly BELOW normal. Through yesterday NYC is -.7 for the month. then explain why we have 60 heating degree days and the normal is 65 ? http://kamala.cod.edu/nj/latest.cdus41.NYC.KOKX.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 According to what some have said if we end may with a +departure then summer may be cooler than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 then explain why we have 60 heating degree days and the normal is 65 ? http://kamala.cod.ed...1.NYC.KOKX.html NYC is -.7 as of yesterday. Period. AVERAGE MONTHLY: 58.7 DPTR FM NORMAL: -0.7 http://www.nws.noaa....dex.php?wfo=okx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 According to what some have said if we end may with a +departure then summer may be cooler than normal. Be careful. These associations have time and time again proven to fail. Remember winter 2011-12 was suppose to have a negative AO because the summer did. That being said, a cool summer is always a concern with the type of regime we are headed for, especially July-Aug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 then explain why we have 60 heating degree days and the normal is 65 ? http://kamala.cod.edu/nj/latest.cdus41.NYC.KOKX.html Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 NYC is -.7 as of yesterday. Period. AVERAGE MONTHLY: 58.7 DPTR FM NORMAL: -0.7 http://www.nws.noaa....dex.php?wfo=okx Temp is above normal - we have 66 heating degree days and normal is 70 DEGREE DAYS HEATING TODAY 6 5 1 3 MONTH TO DATE 66 70 -4 45 SINCE MAR 1 817 1141 -324 1066 SINCE JUL 1 3688 4663 -975 4675 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 This time of year you could be below normal on number of heating degree days and still be below normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 This time of year you could be below normal on number of heating degree days and still be below normal. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Temp is above normal No, its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Yesterday was a -2 and NYC is now -.9 for the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I have a -2.3 temperature departure so far this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Yesterday was a -2 and NYC is now -.9 for the month. Explain to me how the avg temp so far can be -.9 below normal when you look at their heating degree day summary and there is supposed to be 70 so far and they have only had 66 through May 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Yesterday was a -2 and NYC is now -.9 for the month. Might be a vegetation issue again with Central Park. Because every other Upton climo station is has higher departures. For yesterday and the month overall. Obviously, NYC doesn't represent the entire area. These were Friday's maxes/departures for those maxes. Every climo station hit 70+ yesterday and had positive departure, except Central Park: NYC 68/-2 LGA 71/+1 JFK 71/+4 ISP 70/+4 BDR 71/+5 EWR 73/+2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Might be a vegetation issue again with Central Park. Because every other Upton climo station is has higher departures. For yesterday and the month overall. Obviously, NYC doesn't represent the entire area. These were Friday's maxes/departures for those maxes. Every climo station hit 70+ yesterday and had positive departure, except Central Park: NYC 68/-2 LGA 71/+1 JFK 71/+4 ISP 70/+4 BDR 71/+5 EWR 73/+2 When did vegetation become an issue in central park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 are you guys using your own weather stations to compute the average temps for the month ?- I am just using the central park NYC and they are above normal - 66 heating degree days so far and 70 is the norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Explain to me how the avg temp so far can be -.9 below normal when you look at their heating degree day summary and there is supposed to be 70 so far and they have only had 66 through May 11. I'm not sure why you're having so much difficultly with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 are you guys using your own weather stations to compute the average temps for the month ?- I am just using the central park NYC and they are above normal - 66 heating degree days so far and 70 is the norm The data ag provided is the official data from central park. The avg temp this month is lower than the normal avg. not that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I'm not sure why you're having so much difficultly with this. if the temp was below normal wouldn't we be using more heating degree days ? But central park has less then normal 66 when it should be 70 to be normal..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 When did vegetation become an issue in central park? early 2000's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 almost +2 for the month here at bdr after today, should be close to a +5 for the month, very warm overnight mins coming up, this will be the 15th month in a row of an above normal monthly departure at BDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Looks like another easterly flow pattern could set up late in the week and weekend as a cutoff or upper disturbance sets up south of us and ridging develops north of us, which would create easterly flow here until the cutoff dissipates or heads east. Could be a rare pattern where 80s get way to the north of us, even into NNE and we're stuck and socked in with cold ocean air. Hopefully it doesn't come to pass but the Euro's been somewhat persistent over the last few runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 BUST! While the month was dreary, most locales will have another 2-4 degree positive departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 BUST! While the month was dreary, most locales will have another 2-4 degree positive departure. Better get used to those kind of departures, it's been too consistent for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 So can we ban this idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 So can we ban this idiot? You're the one who is that is why you say that, just look at some of you comments and for an old so-called met.............lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 You're the one who is that is why you say that, just look at some of you comments and for an old so-called met.............lol Can i get this in a decipherable language? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cary Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Just stopping by to lol @ NEG NAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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