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May 2012 General Discussion


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Indeed...

95/Sat and 97-98/Sun for ORD. 95/Sun for DTW.

It went back to a faster northward push of the warm front on Sat.

FWIW, I got 74-75° for Saturday. I still think upper 90s are pushing it.

Those are incredible dust storm pictures! Never seen anything like that this far east before.

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That's likely part of it.

It has been a long time of course since we've had any serial derechoes in th Great Lakes region (August 2007 was arguably the last one), or any tornado outbreaks where as thy did seem to happen more frequently in the 1990s.

Basically, it's the coverage and intensity of any individual severe weather events that's been unimpressive recently versus the frequency of them or the grand total severe weather events.

You need to specify here whether you are talking about the GL region as a whole or simply Michigan, since June 5th/6th, 2010 was certainly a significant tornado outbreak in the GL region, and there have been others, I'll let other people fill those in. Even if we're only talking about Michigan, this statement still is largely false...

How about Dexter on March 15th of this year?

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Could only plot significant hail/wind because otherwise there would have been too many reports to plot. Based on this, I don't really see a massive difference in severe storm occurrence in the areas being compared.

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That's from 1950 to now.

In my post I said ReCNTLY (not historically). It would be interesting the numbers for, say, the last 5 years...

It may have something to do with the record-breaking -NAO block and the solar miniumum we've had (the 1990s featured a predominately +NAO and a solar maximum).

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Those are incredible dust storm pictures! Never seen anything like that this far east before.

My wife and I were heading north for anniversary dinner. Couldn't believe it. Thought they were tilling but fields are already growing. This was crazy. Skilling airing them at 9:30 weather segment.

Lake Geneva in the bay is boiling and moored boats are rolling nicely!

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Uh.... or ya know, just more stratiform boring rain

I'm not in total disagreement with you...I think there are several statistics that show at least MI might not get as much severe wx as areas in IL and OH/IN

T-storm Watch Frequency:

http://www.spc.noaa....wcm/10ysvra.gif

SPC Slight Risks Per Year:

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But watches and SPC outlooks probably aren't as good of an indicator as Storm Reports are, and from the map Hoosier posted, we can see it's pretty evenly spread into MI.

Again, I'm not talking about severe events only. I'm talking thunderstorms in general. A lot of the Iowa, Northern Illinois, and Southern Wisconsin, MCS events are just disorganized blobs of convection on the nose of a nocturnal low level jet. Such events don't often produce severe weather other than flash flooding but I still happen to enjoy them if they ever manage to set up far enough northeast into Michigan. They at least produce prolific lightning shows and a good widespread watering.

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Got deluged with 0.03" of rain from a few small cells that went over an hour ago or so. Grass is turning brown and about to turn to straw here soon. Kind of reminds me of '05. The winter before that summer was pretty snowless here as well. Dry spring conditions lead to a dry summer and lots of intense heat. I'll take this any day over the miserable cold and wet summer of 08 or 09, can't remember which.

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Cooling off quickly here now that the front has passed through. Down to 71 now.

I was hoping it would have fallen off into the 70s ahead of the front. This brick house really holds the heat in, which is nice in the winter, but not with 80s or 90s! Probably only have it on 3 hours or so tonight.

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I know it's overdone but for the GFS to be forecasting 75 dew points and LI's from -14 to -16 in May is pretty crazy. Does that from OAX-southern IA down to STL on Saturday.

Nice avatar. Must be nice to have a tornado in 2012 lol.

Gonna be a hot weekend around here as well. Looking like 92 Saturday and maybe 95 Sunday.

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I know it's overdone but for the GFS to be forecasting 75 dew points and LI's from -14 to -16 in May is pretty crazy. Does that from OAX-southern IA down to STL on Saturday.

I haven't looked but I bet a thermonuclear cap too.

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