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Unsettled cool weather ends April, what does May bring


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A day 8 op post describing all of May? :lol:

If you want to argue some mild wx, sure..I could see May above normal perhaps. The troughing doesn't have to mean cool and wet weather, but I don't see a torch for the 1st half of May at least...except for maybe the 2 days or so next week.

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A day 8 op post describing all of May? :lol:

If you want to argue some mild wx, sure..I could see May above normal perhaps. The troughing doesn't have to mean cool and wet weather, but I don't see a torch for the 1st half of May at least...except for maybe the 2 days or so next week.

I think what we need is to quantify "a torch"... what is a torch in May? I get the feeling some on here are thinking a torch is basically anything above normal (+2 or +18 doesn't matter) while the Mets are thinking more like mid to upper 80s is a torch.

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I think what we need is to quantify "a torch"... what is a torch in May? I get the feeling some on here are thinking a torch is basically anything above normal (+2 or +18 doesn't matter) while the Mets are thinking more like mid to upper 80s is a torch.

It depends, but highs in the 80s would qualify, especially early on.

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I think what we need is to quantify "a torch"... what is a torch in May? I get the feeling some on here are thinking a torch is basically anything above normal (+2 or +18 doesn't matter) while the Mets are thinking more like mid to upper 80s is a torch.

My personal threshold for torch is >= +10.

When we're talking about monthly definitions of torch, I'll go with >= +5, unless I'm hanging out with LL, then it's +3.

And if it's March and warm (any positive departure), it's called "MORCH" ... Kevin taught me that one.

He also taught me "Dry begets dry" which never fails.

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Meanwhile as we wait for the next torch...enjoy the cool air. Our county zone forecast looks nice and wintery:

Friday

Rain. Snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation a dusting to 2 inches. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.

Friday Night

Snow or rain likely. Additional light snow accumulation possible. Lows in the lower 20s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.

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Meanwhile as we wait for the next torch...enjoy the cool air. Our county zone forecast looks nice and wintery:

Friday

Rain. Snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation a dusting to 2 inches. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of precipitation 80 percent.

Friday Night

Snow or rain likely. Additional light snow accumulation possible. Lows in the lower 20s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.

It is always winter in PF land

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I'm on the fifth floor surveying my lands and I'd say its 50% max at around 500 feet.

I am about 75%. notice the cottonwoods had a major issue with the freeze. They budded out those gnarly oily things in the March Heat wave then froze, no buds or leaves on any of them.
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I don't think folks understand what leaf out means.

Leaf out means the leaves are out..It doesn't mean the leaves are 100% fully grown lol.It just means the trees have had the leaves pop

My mom sent me a pic yesterday of my yard and there are buds on everything but leaves are on maybe 50 or 60% of trees.

Looking at DOT cams in HFD it seems they are very close to 100%.

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I don't think folks understand what leaf out means.

Leaf out means the leaves are out..It doesn't mean the leaves are 100% fully grown lol.It just means the trees have had the leaves pop

Complete 100% leaf out would imply that looking at a forest it looks like it does during the majority of the warm season. Green with full leaves on the trees. So your backyard now looks like it does on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day?

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We're obviously ahead of normal around here this spring in terms of an early thaw (snow melt, ice out) and an early budding, flowering and leafing-out of trees and shrubs and the emergence of herbaceous plants but the calendar is slowly catching up with the season. Where we were once three-four weeks ahead of schedule, we're now more like two weeks.

The state of leaf-out here above 1k as seen this morning--the lime green trees on the hillsides are poplar, the limbs at the top of the photo are sugar maples:

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Complete 100% leaf out would imply that looking at a forest it looks like it does during the majority of the warm season. Green with full leaves on the trees. So your backyard now looks like it does on Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day?

So you're saying leaf out implies leaves are at full maturity? If that's the case, full leaf out wouldn't be complete until leaves stop growing...which is when...mid-June? I'm gonna tend to agree with the KFS definition here...leaf out implies the leaves are fully out of the buds...but does not imply they have grown to their mid-summer size. If you go by that definition...we're probably at 80-90% in the valley around the NY Capital region.

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