SpartyOn Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I don't remember the last time I was included in the moderate chance of 4+ inches at the very end of April. http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/wwd/day3_psnow_gt_04.gif This has the chance to be something I've never witnessed before this late in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 How far are the trees along in OH & eastern ON? This snow is going to stick to the trees like glue if temperatures are just right! I was discussing on the PA/NY sub forum about how heavy spring snow can be more damaging to trees etc., than autumn. The leaves are already on their way out in the autumn and are loosing their "grip" on the branches. In spring they are healthy and strongly attached to the trees. It will be interesting to see who gets what with this storm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 How far are the trees along in OH & eastern ON? This snow is going to stick to the trees like glue if temperatures are just right! I was discussing on the PA/NY sub forum about how heavy spring snow can be more damaging to trees etc., than autumn. The leaves are already on their way out in the autumn and are loosing their "grip" on the branches. In spring they are healthy and strongly attached to the trees. It will be interesting to see who gets what with this storm! Tree damage is almost certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 looking forward to my upper 30s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 It'll be pure hilarity if snowstormcanuck gets that one storm he's been waiting for all season towards the end of April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I don't remember the last time I was included in the moderate chance of 4+ inches at the very end of April. http://www.hpc.ncep....psnow_gt_04.gif This has the chance to be something I've never witnessed before this late in the season. This is depressing. It's almost May and we're talking winter storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 This is depressing. It's almost May and we're talking winter storms Happens almost every single year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Meso Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 As far as the Ohio Valley./Great Lakes Region goes. Looking at the temp profiles, I am hard pressed to see any temps lower than -5° at 850mb (outside of Northwestern NY state) and it's even harder to find 925 temps lower than -2c if at all. This leads me to think that greatest potential for damaging snow's should stay over the higher elevations of the Appalachian's and those areas that are prone to lake affect snow's like Buffalo. The wild card could be just west of the Appalachian's where up slope winds could bring a bit of surprise. Best guess right now is that eastern OH should be ok. It will be fascinating to watch what this system will do however. Confidence level is this is 6 out of 10. North of the border I haven't looked at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 It'll be pure hilarity if snowstormcanuck gets that one storm he's been waiting for all season towards the end of April. LOL, you got that right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 It'll be pure hilarity if snowstormcanuck gets that one storm he's been waiting for all season towards the end of April. His luck it will be just warm enough to not accumulate. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Happens almost every single year though. It's only 2 days off of last years 1-2" potential, but it still gets me every time. 2008 or 2009 we had wet snow on the Queen Victoria Day weekend. That was depressing being almost June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 His luck it will be just warm enough to not accumulate. Lol Brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 His luck it will be just warm enough to not accumulate. Lol Correct. This is a desperately needed soaker. Any talk of snow, at least here, is ridiculous. It doesn't snow here when it's climatologically supposed to anymore. It sure as hell ain't going to snow in late April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Definitely rooting for Toronto posters. They have suffered more than any snowlovers on this forum the past several years, getting cheated during the good times, and being ground zero for the bad times. They look primed for a historically late snowfall, and it will come right on the anniversary of Michigans April 23-24, 2005 snowstorm. From a purely snow perspective, some may look at it as "stat-padder" snow (a term I hate and fully disagree with), and pretty much all will lament "OMG can you imagine if this storm hit in January?". Also, snow will melt in a day. (On April 24th, my depth peaked at 5.5" during the early evening, was down to 2" by 8am April 25th, and was gone by noon. This from a 6.7-inch fall. The hardest hit areas of Detroits northern burbs, with 16", saw the snow almost completely melted by evening April 25th). But taking all this aside, if this storm comes to fruition, its could be epic for some because of the date, just as 80s in mid-late March were epic, because of the date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Definitely rooting for Toronto posters. They have suffered more than any snowlovers on this forum the past several years, getting cheated during the good times, and being ground zero for the bad times. They look primed for a historically late snowfall, and it will come right on the anniversary of Michigans April 23-24, 2005 snowstorm. From a purely snow perspective, some may look at it as "stat-padder" snow (a term I hate and fully disagree with), and pretty much all will lament "OMG can you imagine if this storm hit in January?". Also, snow will melt in a day. (On April 24th, my depth peaked at 5.5" during the early evening, was down to 2" by 8am April 25th, and was gone by noon. This from a 6.7-inch fall. The hardest hit areas of Detroits northern burbs, with 16", saw the snow almost completely melted by evening April 25th). But taking all this aside, if this storm comes to fruition, its could be epic for some because of the date, just as 80s in mid-late March were epic, because of the date. Thank you michsnowfreak. It would defininitely be something if it snowed this late in the season and we got a big amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Good luck buddy! first call is 2-5" lol's to 10" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Just a reminder...with early and late measurable snows (and this is LATE)....measuring is always difficult. Especially if this is a long duration storm. If it snows for 24 hours straight in late April, and you stick a ruler in the snow for the first time as the last flake falls, that is going to be WAY lowballed. But on the flip side, you cant measure every 2 hours just because its late April. Basically, have to use a snowboard (parts of the ground will soak up the snow, cement may just be wet), clear every 6 hours UNLESS it changes to rain at some point, then measure as soon as it changes over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 What dream set-up for the GTA. Its a shame that this track is coming so late in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 What dream set-up for the GTA. Its a shame that this track is coming so late in the season. I know it really is a shame but hey you never know though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/eplumes/index.php?PRM=Total-SNO&NNC=&SID=YYZ&INC=ALL&RT=03&max=&min= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 BTW, While no one should be expecting a historic storm, I wouldn't be so easy to discount this one from a snowstorm perspective simply because it's April 24th. Remember, one of the two biggest snowstorms (6-10") the Great Lakes region had this season was in Noivember and featured a synoptic setup similar to this one (in terms of how closed it was). If you're looking for major dumps around these parts, you always want to have a deeply closed low. If you can get those huge, fluffy flakes to form high aloft with plenty of moisture and lift, then dynamic cooling can do the trick in terms of accumulations if the rates are steady/heavy enough in spite of marginal temperature profiles. BTW, as for the "snowstorm" we had in 2005 around this time, there was no accumulation (or snow depth rather) at any time in the city proper. It was probably due to the fact that we couldn't get under any decent returns (seeing as the snow was rotating off the hills to the NW) versus the temperature profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Correct. This is a desperately needed soaker. Any talk of snow, at least here, is ridiculous. It doesn't snow here when it's climatologically supposed to anymore. It sure as hell ain't going to snow in late April. I agree to remain cautious, still a lot of things that can go wrong anywhere from a weaker system to a bomb (RGEM). A bomb solution would wrap a ton of warm air around and possible be a sleet scenario for a period until the low fills. I do still think snow (at least some) is a good probability for Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Sure thought there would be a lot more lap tops in the air posting in here.. I can't get enough naked model watching this one but I guess its that time of yr where if no houses are getting flattened or the Reed Timmer wannabe's have no use for the storm the thread is going to be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 This storm is going to be ripping. There is a legit chance someone across the eastern lakes sees TSSN or TSPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Sure thought there would be a lot more lap tops in the air posting in here.. I can't get enough naked model watching this one but I guess its that time of yr where if no houses are getting flattened or the Reed Timmer wannabe's have no use for the storm the thread is going to be dead. I'm sure there would be more excitement if this thing was affecting more than 3 posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 High Res is definitely worthy for eastern lakes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 The NMM at 48 is going sub 984. If that happens portions of the eastern lakes will be seeing some serious heavy snow. RGEM hinting at it too. ECMWF keeps coming in slightly deeper and stronger as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 I'm sure there would be more excitement if this thing was affecting more than 3 posters. severe wx threads have no problem growing big even though a lot of the time its no where near posters BY'S. Anyways.. good ole 12z NAM looks it would back some snow in to far eastern MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Far Eastern MI should be on the lookout too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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