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Coastal Storm Discussion...April 22-23, 2012...


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Latest gfs less than impressive with amounts, barely 2" for the city, less than that for most of NJ, also seems slower with the storm. Tonight's runs will definitely be interesting though

It's lower with the totals, but as several posters just mentioned the models are likely underestimating the rain totals for this storm, especially the GFS which has a history with being too dry with storms like this one, as Analog96 noted and which I've also seen happen many times. With a storm this moist I would expect totals to easily end up above 2-3 inches.

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From my viewpoint, the 18z GEFS mean is similar to the 12z GEFS mean position wise. The 18z OP run seems to have had issues organizing the low center off the outerbanks, which every model seems to have come to a better agreement on this morning so lets see if the 00z runs follow suit or stay course with regards to the track and intensity. Again like I said, dont jump onto one runs QPF. Globals will almost always struggle especially with such a dynamic system.

Latest gfs less than impressive with amounts, barely 2" for the city, less than that for most of NJ, also seems slower with the storm. Tonight's runs will definitely be interesting though

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I wouldn't be surprised based on the radar signature. It's also headed right towards you.

I'm not surprised having seen the radar signature - I just wasn't expecting storms to reach severe limits today. We'll see what happens when they get here.

Anyway, 00Z NAM has really good 1000-500 hPa thickness diffluence over the area. That, combined with the right entrance region of the jetstreak and the strong easterly fetch looks solid for some intense rainfall. Should be exciting to watch unfold.

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I'm not surprised having seen the radar signature - I just wasn't expecting storms to reach severe limits today. We'll see what happens when they get here.

Anyway, 00Z NAM has really good 1000-500 hPa thickness diffluence over the area. That, combined with the right entrance region of the jetstreak and the strong easterly fetch looks solid for some intense rainfall. Should be exciting to watch unfold.

Global models will underestimate the intensity of the heavy bands.

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