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Coastal Storm Discussion...April 22-23, 2012...


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Lets think Meteorologically here rather than modeled QPF: We have quite the moisture feed with this system, with PWATs well above normal for April coming from an Atlantic version of an Pineapple express. Synoptically, the forcing for ascent with this system is going to be amazing. The amount of upper divergence is really going to help get this system going too. Add the LLJ and you have a recipe for heavy rainfall. You have to think there will be some substantial amounts out there, regardless of what the next 4 runs of the NAM GFS etc show.

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Lets think Meteorologically here rather than modeled QPF: We have quite the moisture feed with this system, with PWATs well above normal for April coming from an Atlantic version of an Pineapple express. Synoptically, the forcing for ascent with this system is going to be amazing. The amount of upper divergence is really going to help get this system going too. Add the LLJ and you have a recipe for heavy rainfall. You have to think there will be some substantial amounts out there, regardless of what the next 4 runs of the NAM GFS etc show.

I prefer the RGEM over almost every model for precip amounts, inside of 24 hours.

RGEM suffers though, when too much convection is involved.

But for this system, it's the perfect situation to use this model.

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Lets think Meteorologically here rather than modeled QPF: We have quite the moisture feed with this system, with PWATs well above normal for April coming from an Atlantic version of an Pineapple express. Synoptically, the forcing for ascent with this system is going to be amazing. The amount of upper divergence is really going to help get this system going too. Add the LLJ and you have a recipe for heavy rainfall. You have to think there will be some substantial amounts out there, regardless of what the next 4 runs of the NAM GFS etc show.

That is a very intelligent post because as far as numerical modeling has come over the last 40 years or so...determining which spot will receive the heaviest rainfall or snowfall remains a very difficult proposition...even for the models specifically designed to tackle such a problem.

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Timing looks like a line of showers from 8pm tonight through midnight.

Then a break for a few hours before coastal rains begin at about 12pm tomorrow and lasting through mid Monday morning.

Hardest rain tomorrow evening and night.

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Lets think Meteorologically here rather than modeled QPF: We have quite the moisture feed with this system, with PWATs well above normal for April coming from an Atlantic version of an Pineapple express. Synoptically, the forcing for ascent with this system is going to be amazing. The amount of upper divergence is really going to help get this system going too. Add the LLJ and you have a recipe for heavy rainfall. You have to think there will be some substantial amounts out there, regardless of what the next 4 runs of the NAM GFS etc show.

Strongly agree. This is a situation where model guidance will probably be underdone with respect to precip totals. I wouldn't be surprised to see locallized amount of 5" under the heaviest banding.

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Lets think Meteorologically here rather than modeled QPF: We have quite the moisture feed with this system, with PWATs well above normal for April coming from an Atlantic version of an Pineapple express. Synoptically, the forcing for ascent with this system is going to be amazing. The amount of upper divergence is really going to help get this system going too. Add the LLJ and you have a recipe for heavy rainfall. You have to think there will be some substantial amounts out there, regardless of what the next 4 runs of the NAM GFS etc show.

The GFS and most global models often underestimate the downpours in systems like this. The GFS will probably be too dry.

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