radarman Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Thanks, last night I was wondering if we got a secondary popping along CC that headed past Boston into Maine, looks like it did, sort of a similar setup to the 2010 storm when NYC was dumping snow while all of NE was rain. That storm spawned a vicious secondary meso that caused huge wind damage. Cool look to the visible Have there been any reports of thunder down near Taunton? The vis actually looks like there's might be some CU nearby, and perhaps we might have some convective processes going on, which would give credence to the possibility of something other than rain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Jay Peak got snow. Where'd you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Warm front just blasted thru here. Temps rocketed up almost 10 degrees and dews came with it. Quite a tropical feel Dry next 7-10..don't believe the hype of any more rain storms..Maybe a shower here a shower there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Warm front just blasted thru here. Temps rocketed up almost 10 degrees and dews came with it. Quite a tropical feel Dry next 7-10..don't believe the hype of any more rain storms..Maybe a shower here a shower there I don't see rain storms per se. But, some rain chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Have there been any reports of thunder down near Taunton? The vis actually looks like there's might be some CU nearby, and perhaps we might have some convective processes going on, which would give credence to the possibility of something other than rain.... I saw Scott posted about a TStorm in SE Mass and Harvey Leonard tweeted about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I saw Scott posted about a TStorm in SE Mass and Harvey Leonard tweeted about it. There was lightning with the cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Hartford, Worcester, Concord all have North winds. Pretty neat meso stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Where'd you see that? Their facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 1.79" total up here. We needed this bad. Should end up being a pretty damn decent day in E MA lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Their facebook. No snow here in the NEK. temps around 34 all night at 2200 ft with warmer air aloft...that report seems fishy unless they were legit at the peak at 4k and snow mixed in with the zr lol Mansfield was around 30 all night so maybe at the legit top it snowed before a flip to zr, but I still doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Big time downslope clearing going on here on the west side of the Berkshires. Big patches of deep blue sky and bright sunshine present. You can see it on the visible satellite image I posted below. The northeast flow robbed me of a big rain event too with only 1.10" of rain last night. Instead of getting 40+ dBZ 0.25"-0.5" per hour rains, we were about 25 dBZ and 0.1" per hour rain. Although some of this was likely due to mesoscale features in the mid-levels that were independent of topography, a lot of it was likely due to downslope effects. The heavier echoes moving up from the south kept weakening as they moved in over me. Interesting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 No snow here in the NEK. temps around 34 all night at 2200 ft with warmer air aloft...that report seems fishy unless they were legit at the peak at 4k and snow mixed in lol Mansfield was around 30 all night so maybe at the legit top it snowed. Its very possible that it was snow to start... but I bet it was mostly freezing rain/sleet after that. Nice night to be on the upper mountain... ESE winds sustained at 40-50mph, gusting to near 80mph. Wind chills in the mid teens and ambient temps around freezing. Well, there's only one way to find out what happened. What's the logical thing to do after 2" of rain on April 23rd? Go skiing, of course. Time to break out the storm gear as mist, and wind-blown drizzle at temps in the low 30s, and near zero visibility in dense fog up in the low ceiling sounds like just what the doctor ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Its very possible that it was snow to start... but I bet it was mostly freezing rain/sleet after that. Nice night to be on the upper mountain... ESE winds sustained at 40-50mph, gusting to near 80mph. Wind chills in the mid teens and ambient temps around freezing. Well, there's only one way to find out what happened. What's the logical thing to do after 2" of rain on April 23rd? Go skiing, of course. Time to break out the storm gear as mist, and wind-blown drizzle at temps in the low 30s, and near zero visibility in dense fog up in the low ceiling sounds like just what the doctor ordered. Where's the snow level on Stowe? I was driving by killington Sunday and it seemed to be pretty high up(3k?+). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Where's the snow level on Stowe? I was driving by killington Sunday and it seemed to be pretty high up(3k?+). You mean natural snow level? Snow level is dubious this time of year as it all depends on aspect, winter-long drifting patterns, snowmaking etc. For the most part its bare till you get to at least 3,000ft in the woods. Snowmaking though sort of defies all that as there's still snowmaking to the base in areas. I can find pretty solid woods cover starting at like 3,000 feet or so though I'd imagine based on before this event running into snow in the woods around 2,700ft. But again, this is east and north facing aspects that Stowe's trails are on generally... I hear the western side of Mansfield that faces Burlington and gets long afternoon sun is bare to 4,000ft outside of drifts hiding amongst the rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 You mean natural snow level? Snow level is dubious this time of year as it all depends on aspect, winter-long drifting patterns, snowmaking etc. For the most part its bare till you get to at least 3,000ft in the woods. Snowmaking though sort of defies all that as there's still snowmaking to the base in areas. I can find pretty solid woods cover starting at like 3,000 feet or so though I'd imagine based on before this event running into snow in the woods around 2,700ft. But again, this is east and north facing aspects that Stowe's trails are on generally... I hear the western side of Mansfield that faces Burlington and gets long afternoon sun is bare to 4,000ft outside of drifts hiding amongst the rocks. Yeah natural I meant. That's crazy. Burke is completely bare with respect to natural snow. There are still some man made patches up top. Pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yeah natural I meant. That's crazy. Burke is completely bare with respect to natural snow. There are still some man made patches up top. Pretty cool. Does that include the northern and eastern slopes? When I was up there in the late 80s we had some lean years but there always seem to be some natural snow that stuck around deep under the dense evergreens in early May. I know it's been warm but I would have expected some patches of snow in the NEK on north facing slopes. NOHRSC seems to think there's something there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yeah natural I meant. That's crazy. Burke is completely bare with respect to natural snow. There are still some man made patches up top. Pretty cool. We are getting off topic but this was a couple days ago before the rain at around 3,000ft...maybe 3,200ft. I skinned up through the trees from like 2,9-3,300ft. I bet this really got beaten back but it may not have if temps have been hanging around freezing during all this latest rain. May have even glazed up. This is obviously all-natural cover. Its funny, there's no snow under the trees but out in the open the center of the piles are like 2 feet thick. Funny how the seasonal melt process continues to open up around the trees until we'll lastly be left with some small piles equally spaced between all the trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Does that include the northern and eastern slopes? When I was up there in the late 80s we had some lean years but there always seem to be some natural snow that stuck around deep under the dense evergreens in early May. I know it's been warm but I would have expected some patches of snow in the NEK on north facing slopes. NOHRSC seems to think there's something there. I gotta imagine there's still snow on NE facing slopes at 3,000ft, too up there. The only kicker is I also know that locally places like Mansfield and Jay have probably received double the snow that Burke got this year as much of the snowfall was orographically driven. I think 3,000ft on the east side of the Green Mountain Spine which builds depths to 80"+ thanks to consistent upslope, is going to be different than equal elevations/aspects further inland and out of the upslope region. I'm not sure what Burke got out of that even centered around April 10-11 when the Spine and Mansfield picked up 25-30" up high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 2.09" final here which is consistent with the obs. around Springfield and points east by spotters and ham radio per the NOAA storm total page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 No snow here in the NEK. temps around 34 all night at 2200 ft with warmer air aloft...that report seems fishy unless they were legit at the peak at 4k and snow mixed in with the zr lol Mansfield was around 30 all night so maybe at the legit top it snowed before a flip to zr, but I still doubt it. You guys are relentless, look at their fb for yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Still intermittent shwrs here at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Nice visible SAT of downslope clearing from SE flow along the New England and New York border from the Berks/Greens. Also some downslope clearing in the greater Tolland area off the ORH-Foster, RI hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Ripping heaviest so far ++RN, Looks to be coming to an end for the steady rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Up to 57.4/52 as the warm front has passed...now a muggy day in the Monadnocks. Radar looks clear so hopefully I canget a run in afer school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Nice visible SAT of downslope clearing from SE flow along the New England and New York border from the Berks/Greens. Also some downslope clearing in the greater Tolland area off the ORH-Foster, RI hills. Nice sunny,warm, muggy afternoon today currently The way it should in late April..Grass growing by the foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Wonder why its says test in the lower left corner of everyone's post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Meanwhile, it's a good 10 degrees cooler here in NYC as our winds are variable... left out of the warm sector FTL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Does that include the northern and eastern slopes? When I was up there in the late 80s we had some lean years but there always seem to be some natural snow that stuck around deep under the dense evergreens in early May. I know it's been warm but I would have expected some patches of snow in the NEK on north facing slopes. NOHRSC seems to think there's something there. From my view here at LSC (on the SW facing side) there is nothing visible all the way up...driving from Newark (north facing) there is some man made stuff up top still with little to nothing visible on trees/in the woods. Again like PF said, Burke got little to no snow when Stowe and Jay got 24" two weeks ago, but there may be some patches up top. The last time I was up top was 3/3 before all of the warmth and there was about 3ft natural up there. I beleive Burke close around 3/20 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 You guys are relentless, look at their fb for yourselves. LOL I saw that. Jay has a rep for slant stiicking as you know, but yeah they probably got ,<1" of snow then a sh*t ton of glaze/sleet. 2-3" LWE of sleet SUCKS lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Looks nice with seasonable days and cool night coming up. Maybe shwr/tstm Wednesday, then something Thursday Night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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