wederwarrior Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 6z GFS has flakes down to quakertown ish area, maybe even a few in Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksCO_PA Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Through 7:00am - 2.01" 2.26" including SAT evening T-Storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 1.81 drexel hill + .04 sat night= 1.85 2.14 wayne + .34 sat night= 2.48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 6z GFS has flakes down to quakertown ish area, maybe even a few in Philly flakes this time of year is always a plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 2.49 inches event total here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 2.35 inches for the entire storm event here in Lower Macungie. Relief yes drought ender no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonwx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 another .03" from drizzle throughout the day, bringing my storm total to 2.51" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2010 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 another .03" from drizzle throughout the day, bringing my storm total to 2.51" nothing on radar, but it's been light raining here for the last couple hours. 38 now, should be primed for snow tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonwx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 nothing on radar, but it's been light raining here for the last couple hours. 38 now, should be primed for snow tonight. anything significant expected up your way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike2010 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 anything significant expected up your way? just an inch or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonwx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 just an inch or 2. sounds grill-pic worthy to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 2.35 inches for the entire storm event here in Lower Macungie. Relief yes drought ender no how can it not be a drought ender when we arent even in a drought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Mtn_Wx Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Rain/IP mix in a heavier shower in West Caln Township, Chester County. Elevation 800' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Mike 2010, I think you'll be changing over..I swear I saw a wet snowflake or two mixed in hit my windshield a little while ago up my way. Whats your elevation compared to the Bear Creek Township interchange up by me? I think it's worth a drive tonight to get some april snow pics to go along with the ones I took up that way a few days before the snowtober storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxLover Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Total 2.25 Sat.-Sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 how can it not be a drought ender when we arent even in a drought? This rainfall will not recharge the groundwater table just moisten the topsoil great for plant and grass growing and temporarily raise the stream base flow and ground water table for a few weeks - which shows up nicely in the maps below. We are in a drought- but I guess that it will not officially be recognized until other than myself declares it ---by the state. I am not going to repeat myself but here: http://waterwatch.usgs.gov/index.php?id=ww http://waterdata.usgs.gov/pa/nwis/uv?cb_72019=on&format=gif_stats&begin_date=2012-04-16&end_date=2012-04-23&site_no=403429075392401 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 This rainfall will not recharge the groundwater table just moisten the topsoil great for plant and grass growing and temporarily raise the stream base flow and ground water table for a few weeks - which shows up nicely in the maps below. We are in a drought- but I guess that it will not officially be recognized until other than myself declares it ---by the state. I am not going to repeat myself but here: http://waterwatch.us...index.php?id=ww http://waterdata.usg...403429075392401 yes i see that, and that can show it all it wants, but until this http://www.erh.noaa.gov/phi/drought.html shows it, then its not techincally a drought and nor will tv stations say its a drought until that shows it as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 This rainfall will not recharge the groundwater table just moisten the topsoil great for plant and grass growing and temporarily raise the stream base flow and ground water table for a few weeks - which shows up nicely in the maps below. We are in a drought- but I guess that it will not officially be recognized until other than myself declares it ---by the state. I am not going to repeat myself but here: http://waterwatch.us...index.php?id=ww http://waterdata.usg...403429075392401 Exactly, you are the only one saying we're in a drought, which we are not. And more rain coming later this week. Yes, we have a defecit, but drought, we do not. Even if you got 5-6 inches of rain out of this event, you would still say it doesn't matter, we're in a drought. Like Tom said, until NOAA declares a drought, there is no drought. Not even a drought watch, at this point. No matter how many times you ramble on about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Exactly, you are the only one saying we're in a drought, which we are not. And more rain coming later this week. Yes, we have a defecit, but drought, we do not. Even if you got 5-6 inches of rain out of this event, you would still say it doesn't matter, we're in a drought. Like Tom said, until NOAA declares a drought, there is no drought. Not even a drought watch, at this point. No matter how many times you ramble on about it. OK- we are in a drought but not a long term drought that many think of. I believe the area you where you live is in a moderate long term drought as defined by NOAA, The other areas of our region are under a severe short term drought as depicted in the maps below BY NOAA. These drought maps change constantly with the weather and its patterns. Palmer Indices are very reliable and when backed by USGS streamflow data are a pretty good indicator of where we are headed in this upcoming summer. With the number of red flag warnings, fire watches and municipal and county burning bans issued in the last month- fire precautions are usually the publics way of visualizing an upcoming drought in our region, long or short term. I mainly rely on the more invisible aspects of the drought, groundwater and base flow of the stream both short term and long term. While it is apparent that this weekends rainfall event did significantly relieve the fire threats, it did not relieve the the groundwater and base flows issues that would normally remove us out of a drought condition. The weather pattern must change significantly in the upcoming mothsand not one single storm event can do that in the deficits that we have experienced the last six months. How long has it been since we had a -NAO and the GOM open up for LP production in the SE is surely a telling tale. http://www.ncdc.noaa...cal-palmers.php http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/drought/historical-palmers.php?indhttp://www.ncdc.noaa...ubmitted=Submitex=pmdi&month%5B%5D=3&beg_year=2012&end_year=2012&submitted=Submit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 At least in our area, the states declare the drought status (i.e. watch, warning) not NOAA/NWS. Once that information has been released, we issue or update the Drought Information Statement. The most recent one was issued on April 17th. http://forecast.weat...on=1&glossary=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 6z GFS has flakes down to quakertown ish area, maybe even a few in Philly I saw flakes mixing in with the rain (know the windshield splat) as far south as New Tripoli on the south side of the Blue Mountain on PA309 during the course of my work night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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