TheWeatherPimp Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 TWP. May I ask what type of vehicle you guys were in during that video? A 2010 Toyota Highlander - the wind picked up the front portion of the vehicle briefly and we did some rocking, but overall, it did very well. The front windshield will have to be replaced, the pressure & wind spider cracked the window in several spots and debris (mostly sand and dirty) got lodged all across the front window/in the window. Had a little bit of grill damage and lost a portion of the roof rack. Other than that, the go pro's case was cracked but no major major damage. Very fortunate for the type of winds we were dealing with. I'm going to try to pull the data off of our weather station later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherPimp Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 A few more pictures from our less eventful chase earlier in the evening. Tornado pics are of the Newton, KS storm and the one picture is of the damaged gopro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 A 2010 Toyota Highlander - the wind picked up the front portion of the vehicle briefly and we did some rocking, but overall, it did very well. The front windshield will have to be replaced, the pressure & wind spider cracked the window in several spots and debris (mostly sand and dirty) got lodged all across the front window/in the window. Had a little bit of grill damage and lost a portion of the roof rack. Other than that, the go pro's case was cracked but no major major damage. Very fortunate for the type of winds we were dealing with. I'm going to try to pull the data off of our weather station later tonight. You're a nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherPimp Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 You're a nut A damn lucky nut! Can't even begin to describe the surreal feeling today as we woke up and everything sunk in. I ultimately made the decision to go East and put my whole team in a life threatening situation. Definitely something I won't get over for a while. Still have that sick to my stomach feeling/nerves completely shot. I am definitely ready for a couple beers. 2 hours from home right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Glad you are OK Brandon. Scary video for sure. They must teach courage as well as meteorology at Ball State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DES MOINES IA 422 PM CDT SUN APR 15 2012 ...FINAL DAMAGE SURVEY RESULTS FOR CRESTON... ...CRESTON TORNADO RATED AS A STRONG EF2... THE FOLLOWING IS A FINAL ASSESSMENT FOR THE DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED OVER CRESTON ON APRIL 14, 2012. * EVENT DATE: APRIL 14, 2012 * ESTIMATED START TIME: 6:55PM * EVENT TYPE: (EF2) TORNADO * EVENT LOCATION: NORTHWEST CRESTON * PEAK WIND: 130 MPH * AVERAGE PATH WIDTH: APPROXIMATELY 600 YARDS THROUGH CRESTON * PATH LENGTH: 14 MILES * INJURIES: 10 (PRELIMINARY) * FATALITIES: 0 (PRELIMINARY) * DISCUSSION/DAMAGE: THE TORNADO BEGAN ABOUT ONE AND A HALF MILES EAST OF CROMWELL AND TRACKED NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE FAR NORTHWEST PORTION OF CRESTON. THE CRESTON MEDICAL CLINIC AND SOUTHWESTERN COMMUNITY COLLEGE SUSTAINED EF2 DAMAGE...WITH THE WORST DAMAGE OCCURRING TO THE GREEN HILLS EDUCATIONAL CENTER. THE TORNADO CONTINUED TRACKING NORTHEAST AND DAMAGED A FEW FARMSTEADS NORTHEAST OF CRESTON. THE TORNADO DISSIPATED TEN MILES NORTHEAST OF CRESTON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 NewsOK.com says Woodward is prelim EF2 as of 350pm. http://newsok.com/de...article/3666725 Per OUN front page, it is preliminarily EF3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Were you over by Spirit Aerospace there Brandon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherPimp Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Were you over by Spirit Aerospace there Brandon? Unfortunately parked right in front of it when the tornado struck us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Storm Report. F3 near Wichita and F4 near Salina PRELIMS. http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=ict&storyid=81890&source=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Glad you are OK Brandon. Scary video for sure. They must teach courage as well as meteorology at Ball State. Liquid Courage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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canderson Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 A 2010 Toyota Highlander - the wind picked up the front portion of the vehicle briefly and we did some rocking, but overall, it did very well. The front windshield will have to be replaced, the pressure & wind spider cracked the window in several spots and debris (mostly sand and dirty) got lodged all across the front window/in the window. Had a little bit of grill damage and lost a portion of the roof rack. Other than that, the go pro's case was cracked but no major major damage. Very fortunate for the type of winds we were dealing with. I'm going to try to pull the data off of our weather station later tonight. Thanks! Consider yourself lucky winds didn't circulate and lift underneath you. That's why I asked, the car seemed pretty stable so I assumed a low-profile vehicle. Impressive stuff for that Toyota, certainly. Great stuff. I've been in two tornadoes, but both in my house (same house, two years apart actually), one I got thrown across the room. You chasers are in my blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 This KS family decided to get in the car and go after seeing an approaching tornado on RADAR - the one with the prelim EF-4 rating near Salina... Evacuation is plausible if the evacuees are informed, proactive and have a plan - looks like it worked for this family. http://www.salina.com/news/story/Tornadoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 A damn lucky nut! Can't even begin to describe the surreal feeling today as we woke up and everything sunk in. I ultimately made the decision to go East and put my whole team in a life threatening situation. Definitely something I won't get over for a while. Still have that sick to my stomach feeling/nerves completely shot. I am definitely ready for a couple beers. 2 hours from home right now. I'm just a rookie, if that, only one chase and one tornado, but I have some strong feelings about this. Chasing at night in general is stupid considering how easy it is to get in a car accident in stormy conditions when you can't see that far ahead of you. Chasing at night without a radar is even stupider. I'm glad you and your team are ok but I don't understand why you would be driving around Wichita blind during a tornado emergency if you're a trained meteorologist. The footage isn't even worth it since it's too dark to see anything. You also kept going even though it was clear you were getting into the storm's inner circulation (probably the RFD but I can't be sure just by the footage alone). None of us are perfect and I'm not trying to rail on you since you realize the error, but it's an error that should have never happened. I've noticed storm chasers throw common sense and caution to the wind in general, only a matter of time until someone dies, and only a matter of time until it becomes illegal because chasers are putting other people on the road at risk as well as using up emergency resources. That will be a shame since the real scientists who are out there for research and follow the rules of the road like every other responsible adult will not be able to chase anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtticaFanatica Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 This KS family decided to get in the car and go after seeing an approaching tornado on RADAR - the one with the prelim EF-4 rating near Salina... Evacuation is plausible if the evacuees are informed, proactive and have a plan - looks like it worked for this family. http://www.salina.co...story/Tornadoes Until you go from one family to 500 families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 This KS family decided to get in the car and go after seeing an approaching tornado on RADAR - the one with the prelim EF-4 rating near Salina... Evacuation is plausible if the evacuees are informed, proactive and have a plan - looks like it worked for this family. http://www.salina.co...story/Tornadoes Worked in Picher, OK as well. As long as the land is flat and you can see for a long way, this wouldn't be a good idea in the southeast though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwburbschaser Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I think someone else already hit on this, but I want to say it again. I spent the entire day in Kansas, and the first responders were all over these storms as they went on. They really have their act together down there, and all the local radio and tv stations were right on top of the storms. It's great to see first hand just how prepared people are down there, and the firefighters/police/spotters really deserve a lot of credit for how prepared they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye05 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 The SW of Salina damage sounds particularly intense. "DAMAGE HAS BEEN NOTED NEAR KANOPOLIS LAKE WHERE A FARMSTEAD WAS DECIMATED...TREES WERE STRIPPED OF THE BARK AND THE ROADS WERE SCOURED. THIS AREA IS VERY RURAL AND FEW OTHER STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN HIT BY THE TORNADO. THEREFORE...THE RATING IS PRELIMINARY AS THE ASSESSMENT CONTINUES." On another note, that tornado was strikingly similar in appearance to the Tuscaloosa tornado. Edit: *Video not from me* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 wow, very impressive video (wish i had a much better camera/camcorder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye05 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 wow, very impressive video (wish i had a much better camera/camcorder like yours It's David Mabe's video not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EquusStorm Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 The SW Salina video is absolutely one of the most incredible tornado videos I have ever seen - the motion is incredible. And it is quite reminiscent of Tuscaloosa, but to me, the tornado it most reminds me of is the Philadelphia, MS tornado, especially as it crosses the road. There are so many amazing videos that are coming in; do you folks think that videos from this outbreak series might be enough to warrant their own thread for discussion merit and ease of access? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 here is an edited video I took on the 14th west of Marquette, ks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 The SW of Salina damage sounds particularly intense. "DAMAGE HAS BEEN NOTED NEAR KANOPOLIS LAKE WHERE A FARMSTEAD WAS DECIMATED...TREES WERE STRIPPED OF THE BARK AND THE ROADS WERE SCOURED. THIS AREA IS VERY RURAL AND FEW OTHER STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN HIT BY THE TORNADO. THEREFORE...THE RATING IS PRELIMINARY AS THE ASSESSMENT CONTINUES." On another note, that tornado was strikingly similar in appearance to the Tuscaloosa tornado. Edit: *Video not from me* Those cattle got wrecked at 2:45. No milk from them for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Until you go from one family to 500 families. I remember KFOR on May 24 2011 telling everyone in El Reno to get underground or get out of the way...then there was a long train of evacuees leaving the city on their helicopter camera. Storm Chasers also had a segment on the evacuation. It would probably have been very different if the EF5 had hit the city urban centre, but it did happen that day with several hundreds to thousands of people trying to evacuate ahead of a tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EquusStorm Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DODGE CITY KS 944 PM CDT SUN APR 15 2012 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0325 PM TORNADO 4 E CENTERVIEW 37.81N 99.20W 04/14/2012 EDWARDS KS PUBLIC A TORNADO WAS OBSERVED. THE TORNADO DESTROYED NUMEROUS FARM IMPLEMENTS INCLUDING FLIPPING 4 GRAIN AUGERS THROUGH A GRAIN BIN. TWO COMPLETE PIVOT IRRIGATION SYSTEMS WERE DESTROYED. CONCRETE CATTLE GRATES WERE PULLED FROM THE GROUND AND THROWN 100 FEET ON TOP OF GRAIN BINS. That's a pretty impressive little feat there. I wonder how well they were anchored? I've seen a tornado rated EF-3 for little more than that. Although I have no idea if that rating would stand upon wind engineering analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WICHITA KS 825 PM CDT SUN APR 15 2012 ...PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT... PRELIMINARY EF3 DAMAGE WAS DETERMINED IN SUMNER COUNTY SOUTH OF CONWAY SPRINGS. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS INFORMATION IS NOT FINAL AND THE RATING MAY CHANGE WITH FURTHER INVESTIGATION. INITIAL ASSESSMENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED FOR THE DAY AND FURTHER INVESTIGATION WILL BE NEEDED TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION ON POTENTIAL TORNADOES IN OTHER LOCATIONS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Sorry for the ignorant question but what does determining the EF rating after the fact accomplish? Do they compare to radar scans during the event etc? Must be a pretty sobering job, although they do great work. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 The SW of Salina damage sounds particularly intense. "DAMAGE HAS BEEN NOTED NEAR KANOPOLIS LAKE WHERE A FARMSTEAD WAS DECIMATED...TREES WERE STRIPPED OF THE BARK AND THE ROADS WERE SCOURED. THIS AREA IS VERY RURAL AND FEW OTHER STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN HIT BY THE TORNADO. THEREFORE...THE RATING IS PRELIMINARY AS THE ASSESSMENT CONTINUES." On another note, that tornado was strikingly similar in appearance to the Tuscaloosa tornado. Edit: *Video not from me* That has to be the most impressive tornado video I've seen. I've never felt closer to the event than I did watching that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Sorry for the ignorant question but what does determining the EF rating after the fact accomplish? Do they compare to radar scans during the event etc? Must be a pretty sobering job, although they do great work. Thanks in advance. The survey results are used to maintain the official climate record, used for verification, and used in research projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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