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72/52 Nice night.

It was 91F on the bank thermometer in Northampton at 3pm. Scantily clad pedestrians were out in force.

Couldn't beleive how low the Deerfield River was, should be several feet higher this time of year. Several fly fisherman were out in the river near Stillwater (close to where I-91 crosses.) about 1/3 of the way out from shore and they were about halfway up their waders. Last year at this time there was no way you could stand in the river.

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No Sh*t. I wouldn't have thought that. Massachusetts has argueably the best stocking program in the NE. So much so that there are many "wild" trout now. These are very wary and tough to catch, at least compared to stockies. The Westfield river near my house is stocked with Atlantic Salmon, Rainbows,Browns,Brookies and Tiger Trout. Some of the Salmon they put in are brood stock past their peak production, these fish go in to the river at 11-13lbs. Insane to take one on light tackle or a fly rod. The fishing, along with the snow, is one of the reasons I live here in GC. The river here is as low as I've ever seen it in spring.

I'm curious about your stockies theory. I can remember hitting a local stream soon after it was stocked. There were a bunch of trout just hanging out, oblivious to anything I threw at them, even nightcrawlers.

I suppose it could have just been the wrong time of day, but I've found that the "wild" fish are more likely to hit a variety of bait, while stockies may be looking for corn, or just too stuffed to hit anything until they actually get hungry.

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I'm curious about your stockies theory. I can remember hitting a local stream soon after it was stocked. There were a bunch of trout just hanging out, oblivious to anything I threw at them, even nightcrawlers.

I suppose it could have just been the wrong time of day, but I've found that the "wild" fish are more likely to hit a variety of bait, while stockies may be looking for corn, or just too stuffed to hit anything until they actually get hungry.

Stocked fish just put in usually will nail yellow rooster tails. In two days they become ravingly hungry then disperse.

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I'm curious about your stockies theory. I can remember hitting a local stream soon after it was stocked. There were a bunch of trout just hanging out, oblivious to anything I threw at them, even nightcrawlers.

I suppose it could have just been the wrong time of day, but I've found that the "wild" fish are more likely to hit a variety of bait, while stockies may be looking for corn, or just too stuffed to hit anything until they actually get hungry.

Those are really dumb stockies then. I'll avoid the river right after it's stocked. Those trout are so readily caught it is unfair. Like shooting fish in a barrel. I guarantee you that a wily old holdover Brown or a Rainbow of healthy size will be much harder to take than a little 14" fish freshly stocked. The biggest trout, particularly the Browns are nocturnal and very wary of any thing that isn't presented perfectly.

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Those are really dumb stockies then. I'll avoid the river right after it's stocked. Those trout are so readily caught it is unfair. Like shooting fish in a barrel. I guarantee you that a wily old holdover Brown or a Rainbow of healthy size will be much harder to take than a little 14" fish freshly stocked. The biggest trout, particularly the Browns are nocturnal and very wary of any thing that isn't presented perfectly.

Agreed. I've always found the rainbows much easier to catch.

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let's total her up...what's the April monthly departures for BOS, ORH, BDL and BDR? While not an all out torchathon, it's been pretty warm and incredibly dry. The lack of rainfall is certainly a bigger story than the warmth at this juncture... Perhaps had it been wetter, we'd be a bit cooler MTD.

Its a difference of talking about a huge relaxation in the pattern and the torch we saw in March...I'm not sure why its so difficult for you guys to understand that we had a big relaxation that Kevin said would not happen. He even got 2" of snow in his BY during it.

Why are we totaling up April when we are talking about a 2-3 week period of relaxation that started near 3/25? Even Scott and I said when the ensembles hammered this idea that we might not be that cold if it stays sunny most of the time...but it would still be a huge relaxation. Highs in the 50s under full April sun is not a torch pattenrn, I'm sorry if you thought it was, but its not. Multiple nights in the interior went below freezing during this stretch too.

You don't get 53/29 type days in April when we are under a ridge like we were in March. The most frustrating thing about meteorology is perception and anecdotal evidence. People just see what they want to see. If it was +0.8 from 3/26 to 4/10, then it was a torch in their eyes if they wanted it to be a torch or predicted it...and somehow that is the same as +25 to +30 departures in March.

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KFS with another win for the weekend rainstorm per 00z Euro???

Actually the solution is the opposite of what he is forecasting in terms of synoptics but similar in terms of sensible weather. Not sure how to score that one though we all know how Kevin will score it.

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KFS with another win for the weekend rainstorm per 00z Euro???

Actually the solution is the opposite of what he is forecasting in terms of synoptics but similar in terms of sensible weather. Not sure how to score that one though we all know how Kevin will score it.

The ensembles were actually further west big time.

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