powderfreak Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 yeah this time of year can be so deceiving. these are actually pretty "cold" air masses moving in to the region. of course where 98% of the pop live and work it just verifies as +5 to -5 type of days or whatever...nothing notable really. but if you actually had some moisture added in...these would be cold days everywhere...not just in the hills. but 100% sun with a dry air mass on 4/5 can counter the cold pretty well. partly why the weekend is such a high stakes forecast. if you end up with a decent amount of sun...it's fine. if it's overcast and there's any moisture around...huge difference as you'll realize the "potential cold" Yeah good points... because I'm just looking at the H85 temp loops and thinking how the heck does this verify near to above normal. But I guess the same can be said in the winter when H85s may verify warmer than normal at like 0C to -5C in January, but you have low level cold trapped at the surface verifying teens at the climo stations. Hard to call this a torch though when MWN is in the single digits in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Most boring year of weather in history. Yeah... thank god for the October storm and Irene otherwise this would really be a special year. Its up there with 2010. However I do understand both Irene and the October storm depended on location... with mostly the coastal plain in E.MA seeing not much excitement from either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Yeah... thank god for the October storm and Irene otherwise this would really be a special year. Its up there with 2010. However I do understand both Irene and the October storm depended on location... with mostly the coastal plain in E.MA seeing not much excitement from either. We had 60-75mph winds in ern areas, especally SE. That's pretty good. I'd rather wind, than 6-8"of rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Now that would be sweet. Widespread 150-250" average snowfall in New England We'd have plenty to talk about even in the worst winters. True 'nuf! An example: Diamond Pond in NNH, at 2,200', has 13 full winters' record, 98-99 thru 10-11, with avg 226". Ist CT Lake lies 10+ miles north and 540' lower, has records back almost 100 yr, but for those same 13 winters has avg 138", which is only 61% of Diamond Pond. Maine's highest obs station (that I've found) is Rangeley, at 1,512', has avg 129" for those same winters. Snowfall drop per 100' was 16.3" for D.Pd to 1st CT, but only 6.1" from 1st CT to Rangeley. (The 16.3" factor would have reduced Rangeley snowfall to 114".) Makes me wonder what someone at 2,000' (or 2,500) would measure in the Maine Mts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 <p> We had 60-75mph winds in ern areas, especally SE. That's pretty good. I'd rather wind, than 6-8"of rain. Plus Ray had that severe storm last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I could have done without Irene. Just a mess with heavy rain and flooding. It's hard to get all psyched up for heavy rain and floods. Yeah... thank god for the October storm and Irene otherwise this would really be a special year. Its up there with 2010. However I do understand both Irene and the October storm depended on location... with mostly the coastal plain in E.MA seeing not much excitement from either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Snowiest season in CT history at many locales, epic roof collapses, spring flooding, a warm spring/a hot humid summer in the top 5 all time warmest/ an EF4 Tor ripping thru the heart of SNE, an earthquake, Cane Irene, the most damaging early season snowstorm in SNE history, and the wettest year on record at many sites..Without question the best year for wx in 98% of SNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Booo! My point and click and all the local mets said sunny but It's cloudy and cool in W. Ma. wtf? Typical drab, gray upslope cloud day here with NW flow and CAA. Always happens around here with a NW flow, pretty much no matter what time of year. Love it! Even in the middle of summer NW flow days can be cool and mostly cloudy while the valleys and CP are sunny and near or above 80. If we stay cloudy all day, we won't escape the low to mid 40s. Yup. Overcast and 39.7 at noontime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Snowiest season in CT history at many locales, epic roof collapses, spring flooding, a warm spring/a hot humid summer in the top 5 all time warmest/ an EF4 Tor ripping thru the heart of SNE, an earthquake, Cane Irene, the most damaging early season snowstorm in SNE history, and the wettest year on record at many sites..Without question the best year for wx in 98% of SNE I agree regarding 2011..although no Spring flooding was had. 2012 may be one of the most boring years, barring any crazy storm(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 I agree regarding 2011..although no Spring flooding was had. 2012 may be one of the most boring years, barring any crazy storm(s). What amazes me is how as soon as the calendar flipped to 2012..the switch flipped from wet to dry. We couldnt stop the qpf last year. This year we can't start it.. Incredible turnaround. What goes up..must come down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 What amazes me is how as soon as the calendar flipped to 2012..the switch flipped from wet to dry. We couldnt stop the qpf last year. This year we can't start it.. Incredible turnaround. What goes up..must come down Yeah it's amazing how climo can balance out. Part of this is related to the AO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 What amazes me is how as soon as the calendar flipped to 2012..the switch flipped from wet to dry. We couldnt stop the qpf last year. This year we can't start it.. Incredible turnaround. What goes up..must come down Lawn/Lesco cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 both the 12z nam and gfs have a short-wave rotating across SNE on Sat with lots of mid-level moisture...depending on the evolution of the ULL, it's possible saturday could be the "worse" of the two weekend days if the flow on sunday ends up more offshore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 39, cloudy and breezy. I thought it was supposed to be 70+ everyday this April. Warministas FTL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Same here ... 39 and ovc. 39, cloudy and breezy. I thought it was supposed to be 70+ everyday this April. Warministas FTL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Hopefully the GFS isn't right with cold and dry all next week. Absolute worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Hopefully the GFS isn't right with cold and dry all next week. Absolute worst. It'll nail the dry but not the cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 It'll nail the dry but not the cold LOL, it will not be dry and warm dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Good hiking wx. Gonna do a peak in the southern Dacks with nephews and niece on Monday. Since the snowpack is unusually gone so early there, we'll just make believe it's around Halloween and do a Fall hike in the Spring. LOL Hopefully the GFS isn't right with cold and dry all next week. Absolute worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 You lose points in your forecast challenge game. Gets me everytime. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Tell you one thing...it's a mess of a pattern. Good luck to models on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Snowiest season in CT history at many locales, epic roof collapses, spring flooding, a warm spring/a hot humid summer in the top 5 all time warmest/ an EF4 Tor ripping thru the heart of SNE, an earthquake, Cane Irene, the most damaging early season snowstorm in SNE history, and the wettest year on record at many sites..Without question the best year for wx in 98% of SNE Earthquakes are not weather... TS Irene in NE EF3 tornado officially But yeah, amazing year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 LOL, it will not be dry and warm dude. I don't mean warm..but probably alot of 50's to near 60 with chilly nights Just a typical sping pattern sans the rain. Just one more mild down..until the super torch returns day 10 and beyond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Earthquakes are not weather... TS Irene in NE EF3 tornado officially But yeah, amazing year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Well, just stating some facts... Is Will buying you beer soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 Well, just stating some facts... Is Will buying you beer soon? Being the gentleman and scholar that I am..I am going to buy him the brew. NW and NE CT(including me) got 2 inches or more. Even though that wasn't officially part of the bet, I felt like I owe him..esp since it was MBY that got the snow ..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 We had 60-75mph winds in ern areas, especally SE. That's pretty good. I'd rather wind, than 6-8"of rain. Yeah I figured you guys had something good... but just knowing 40/70's posting style, I figured I'd throw that disclaimer in there as I was sure someone would respond it was no big deal IMBY, most boring year ever, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I agree regarding 2011..although no Spring flooding was had. 2012 may be one of the most boring years, barring any crazy storm(s). Long way to go... a couple tropical storms and then a snowiest Nov/Dec combo ever could change your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I don't mean warm..but probably alot of 50's to near 60 with chilly nights Just a typical sping pattern sans the rain. Just one more mild down..until the super torch returns day 10 and beyond If it were full sun, possible. However with the ULL over us, could be self destructive sun. Probably days where 1000' are like 8-10 degrees colder than sea level. GEFS are horrifically boring next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Jesus H... next week on the 12z GFS looks like some fun for the upslope regions of NNE, especially above 1,500ft. I do realize though that 98% of the posters on here may want to slit their wrists if this happens. But its something to talk about. Event starts on Monday afternoon... Tuesday... Wednesday... Thursday... Now this isn't text book upslope by any means, but with a cut-off mid/upper level features, moist cyclonic flow with general RH staying above 70% with periods of >90%, and light to moderate orographic flow at times, the higher elevations of the Greens, Whites, and Maine Mtns could see a couple inches of snow each day next week. Even still, all areas below 1,000ft will probably want to hang themselves after a week of clouds, drizzle, showers, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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