PB GFI Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 denialist talking points: the hockey stick is wrong climate scientists have an agenda we were warmer during the middle ages sample size is too small urban heat island earth has cycles it's the sun ice cores and tree samples are inaccurate And your talking point is ? it agrees with my ideology , so everyone else is an idiot . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 You know, we do have a whole forum for Climate Change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 You know, we do have a whole forum for Climate Change... ok mate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Take this elsewhere, please. Climate Change is unbearable enough to wade through without it spreading to here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Not a whole heck of alot else to talk about Take this elsewhere, please. Climate Change is unbearable enough to wade through without it spreading to here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEXtreme Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Theres huge money interests for pushing "global warming" or "climate change" or "climate disruption" or whatever the heck they call the propaganda. Follow the money. Enough said. Btw ...Enjoying this wonderful day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Back to today's forecast. Another beautiful day out there with Newark already up to 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Global warming is better than global cooling, that is for sure. - on that note, we see to be busting warm on guidance...sitting at 60 already here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Global warming is better than global cooling, that is for sure. - on that note, we see to be busting warm on guidance...sitting at 60 already here models are not handling this pattern well at all in the mid/long range - next weeks big trough will be a bust too - by mid month we will be at least a couple degrees above normal for April more then likely and very dry ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 models are not handling this pattern well at all in the mid/long range - next weeks big trough will be a bust too - by mid month we will be at least a couple degrees above normal for April more then likely and very dry ......... Disagree. There's pretty strong support for next week being below normal, given support from tropical forcing and a negative NAO. Also interesting to note that GFS forecasts have been too bullish on the positive NAO/AO over the past few weeks; observations have been more negative than guidance. I agree about the dry part though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Global warming is better than global cooling, that is for sure. - on that note, we see to be busting warm on guidance...sitting at 60 already here NAM is doing OK. Newark is back to being several degerees above NYC but other then that, NYC area is 60-64 right now. NAM had mid to upper 60's for the area today. BDR is only 57 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 What a beautiful day...best in a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 What a beautiful day...best in a while... Nice day, though a bit too warm. I'll take yesterday and the next few days with low 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Nice day, though a bit too warm. I'll take yesterday and the next few days with low 60s. To windy and cool the last few days for my ideal......since the pattern change...the wind has not stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 This is more like it. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Disagree. There's pretty strong support for next week being below normal, given support from tropical forcing and a negative NAO. Also interesting to note that GFS forecasts have been too bullish on the positive NAO/AO over the past few weeks; observations have been more negative than guidance. I agree about the dry part though. I think temps will end up beating the model forecasts by a few degrees everyday because of the dry weather and abundant sunshine most of the period - plus after today central park will be at least 2 degrees above normal for the month already in addition look at Uptons forecast a few low - mid 60's days coming up that is above normal http://kamala.cod.ed...pus51.KOKX.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Its a cruel joke of how close the northern and southern streams were to phasing and creating a large coastal for Friday. By inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 The 12z euro is pretty hideous for the northeast from days 3-10. I hope its overdoing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Gfs has a really active pattern setting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Gfs has a really active pattern setting up. its been showing that in the long range since October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 our torch warm pattern seems to be breaking down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 its been showing that in the long range since October. 12z euro is not long range. It has the offshore coastal on Friday cutting off and spinning and retrograding into the Northeast for days and days due to blocking in Greenland. A cutoff after cutoff pattern. This has support from ensembles and other models. Im hoping its overdone because the 12z euro verbatim is hideous for our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 This is the first time in months I've seen 850 anomalies for the east like this: Days 1-5: Days 6-10: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Maybe we can have a few storms to track next week, and I won't mind having the cooler temps in place for a few days. April will still average above normal though, I think that the last week of April will torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 This is the first time in months I've seen 850 anomalies for the east like this: Days 1-5: Days 6-10: Finally blocking in Greenland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Its been a while since we have seen this: days 6-10 outlook: Days 8-14 outlook: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Take this elsewhere, please. Climate Change is unbearable enough to wade through without it spreading to here. I agree with those who assert global warming, but it seems minds won't change on either side right now. So on to how nice this day is. Average temps this time of year would be perfect for what I like, unless model have both snow and cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Disagree. There's pretty strong support for next week being below normal, given support from tropical forcing and a negative NAO. Also interesting to note that GFS forecasts have been too bullish on the positive NAO/AO over the past few weeks; observations have been more negative than guidance. I agree about the dry part though. We had the -NAO and MJO in phase 7 this week. Yet we are still saw above normal temps, the past two days. I think we wind up averaging near normal, the next 10 days or so. While the MJO move in the cooler phases 8,1,2. Then we rebound in later in April to more positive departures, with the MJO probably moving through the warmer phases 3-5, I think stronger than what's being forecasted below. The Euro ensembles have been to be too weak and slow with MJO, out to 15 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Upton is going with upper 50s/low 60s now the next 5 days. No more mid and upper 60s this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 our torch warm pattern seems to be breaking down Right on cue - just when chances for accumulating snow become slim to none, Mother Nature takes us out of the blowtorch pattern. I think the next month will still end up slightly above normal, but we're looking at more neg departure days than we've seen the past 5 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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