LongBeachSurfFreak Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Yeah usually 10am-12 noon can be pretty brutal even at the shore. Days with light wind, the sea breeze should kick in by 1pm at the beaches. If we've got a moderate 20-25mph land based wind going, the sea breeze takes until mid afternoon. I'd say only a handful of days in the summer (less than 3-5) feature no sea breeze at all on the beach. Need strong NWLY winds to keep it at bay. Very true. I have spent the last 15 summers life guarding on the ocean (Jones Beach) and you can count the days on one hand in a given summer when there is NO sea breeze. I have seen many 25 knot NW winds give in to the sea breeze around 3pm. The kind of clear crisp summer days when even at 2pm its still 25 knots offshore and then bam around 3 it instantaneously swings around to the south. Some days you can watch the wind shift in the flags work down the beach. So at point A the wind is still offshore at 25 knots at point B a half mile away its onshore at 10 knots. One of the coolest localized weather phenomenons i have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Refreshingly cool morning on Long Island; down to 27 F @ the WSO @ Upton....22 F @ Westhampton. The record low at Upton for the date is 14 F set in 1954. http://www.bnl.gov/weather/4cast/04-aprtemp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 overdone, like every other 8-10 day euro plot Temperatures in the NE US will, over the course of time, balance out. All the local stations will have some below normal months temperature wise duing the coming year. The recent near-snowless winter is a very good example of Nature's ability to "balance the books"; so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Many of us are going to see +5 to +10 degree temp departures on average, today and tomorrow and then again Sat-Mon, with mostly W/NW downslope flow. With it being it dry, we might start out chilly. But then much warmer by end of the day. As for beyond the op models have been overdoing troughs. While the ensembles have been more progressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 The last few days the wind has been such a pain for clean ups.....and very cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Refreshingly cool morning on Long Island; down to 27 F @ the WSO @ Upton....22 F @ Westhampton. The record low at Upton for the date is 14 F set in 1954. http://www.bnl.gov/w...04-aprtemp.html LI radiates like crazy. The city only got down to 40F and LGA to 43F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted April 3, 2012 Author Share Posted April 3, 2012 Temperatures in the NE US will, over the course of time, balance out. All the local stations will have some below normal months temperature wise duing the coming year. The recent near-snowless winter is a very good example of Nature's ability to "balance the books"; so to speak. If thats the case balancing the books should include a closer to normal temp and precip on average for the spring and summer months beginning this month although thereare no signs of us breaking out of this extreme cycle we are in the last few years so there might be more records to foillow - only type of records we have not had much of is low temp records - so is that next for the spring summer months ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I can't imagine us having a top 10 cold month anytime soon. Or a record cold season this spring/summer/fall. Might have a below normal month here and there but just don't see anything long term If thats the case balancing the books should include a closer to normal temp and precip on average for the spring and summer months beginning this month although thereare no signs of us breaking out of this extreme cycle we are in the last few years so there might be more records to foillow - only type of records we have not had much of is low temp records - so is that next for the spring summer months ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Even as the world warms and our averages climb, it's still likely we'll get a top 10 or top 15 cold month eventually within the next few years. I think we definitely live in a world where extremes are and will be the norm. Things will average out in the long term but prepare to see more Topsy-turvy weather like we've seen over the past few years. Remember we still had a record number of KU's from 2009-2011 and now the extreme is this past winter. Now were on a record warm stretch for the past several months and eventually it will turn the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Even as the world warms and our averages climb, it's still likely we'll get a top 10 or top 15 cold month eventually within the next few years. I think we definitely live in a world where extremes are and will be the norm. Things will average out in the long term but prepare to see more Topsy-turvy weather like we've seen over the past few years. Remember we still had a record number of KU's from 2009-2011 and now the extreme is this past winter. Now were on a record warm stretch for the past several months and eventually it will turn the other way. I'd say anomalous warmth and record storminess would be positively correlated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 It's just much easier for us to set record highs than lows with all the warmth that we have seen up in the Arctic and Canada especially from early 2010 on. NYC has only seen 4 months out of 27 with a below average temperature since January 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Read Jeff Masters blog from yesterday. It has some great insights into why we have been seeing extremes. Quick summary the lack of Arctic summer sea ice is leading to weakened jet streams in the northern hemisphere and hence the propensity for more blocking and stagnant patterns. So moving forward we will see more super snowy super west based NAO periods like in the 9-10 and 10-11 winters. I would think the weakened jet streams can also lead to the opposite like this winter with extreme warm periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEXtreme Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Even as the world warms and our averages climb, it's still likely we'll get a top 10 or top 15 cold month eventually within the next few years. What were the averages 1,000, 10,000, 50,000, 100,000 years ago? What the heck is average anyway? How long has the planet existed? What's the average during the past million years? Just because it's been very warm around here doesn't mean the rest of the planet has had the same lately lol... It's been the opposite! Dont tell that to the people in Europe, Asia, Alaska and northern Africa to name a few. Mother nature ALWAYS balances things out. You want a really hot period? Look up the medieval times and what scientist have found that proves it was hotter back then. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 GFS now advertises a pseudo polar vortex sitting in spinning in Quebec for days next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Read Jeff Masters blog from yesterday. It has some great insights into why we have been seeing extremes. Quick summary the lack of Arctic summer sea ice is leading to weakened jet streams in the northern hemisphere and hence the propensity for more blocking and stagnant patterns. So moving forward we will see more super snowy super west based NAO periods like in the 9-10 and 10-11 winters. I would think the weakened jet streams can also lead to the opposite like this winter with extreme warm periods. It fits the pattern of the all or nothing type winters that we have seen here. Check out the big spike in the Arctic temperatures just since 2009 against the general rising pattern. Without blocking on our side of the globe, the warmth just runs the board. All the blocking this winter was on the Russian side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 What were the averages 1,000, 10,000, 50,000, 100,000 years ago? What the heck is average anyway? How long has the planet existed? What's the average during the past million years? Just because it's been very warm around here doesn't mean the rest of the planet has had the same lately lol... It's been the opposite! Dont tell that to the people in Europe, Asia, Alaska and northern Africa to name a few. Mother nature ALWAYS balances things out. You want a really hot period? Look up the medieval times and what scientist have found that proves it was hotter back then. Just saying. This is a piss poor post no offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Today and the next several days are gorgeous, ideal spring weather in my eyes. Chilly mornings, warm enough for shorts/t-shirt by the afternoon, but still a refreshing feel to the air. Easter weekend looks perfect - highs in the 60s, lows in the 40s. Near normal late week to slightly above normal for the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Today and the next several days are gorgeous, ideal spring weather in my eyes. Chilly mornings, warm enough for shorts/t-shirt by the afternoon, but still a refreshing feel to the air. Easter weekend looks perfect - highs in the 60s, lows in the 40s. Near normal late week to slightly above normal for the weekend. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Just went for a walk-wow the sun is warm this time of year...w/o the wind it feels really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 The GFS looks like the 12z euro from yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 What were the averages 1,000, 10,000, 50,000, 100,000 years ago? What the heck is average anyway? How long has the planet existed? What's the average during the past million years? Just because it's been very warm around here doesn't mean the rest of the planet has had the same lately lol... It's been the opposite! Dont tell that to the people in Europe, Asia, Alaska and northern Africa to name a few. Mother nature ALWAYS balances things out. You want a really hot period? Look up the medieval times and what scientist have found that proves it was hotter back then. Just saying. This is a piss poor post no offense. It is actually not a bad post at all...it asks questions (albeit some rhetorical) and then makes a few points which are in fact legitimate...save for the part about the Medieval Warm Period being warmer than today...it is believed that the height of the current global warm period (about 1998) was slightly warmer than the MWP...though actual temperature records were obviously non-existent back then and other methods are used by contemporary climatologists to gauge what it was like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Live stream of tornado on the ground near Arlington TX http://www.nbcdfw.com/weather/stories/Severe-Storms-Building-to-the-West-145934445.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 DALLAS TX-TARRANT TX- 200 PM CDT TUE APR 3 2012 ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 215 PM CDT FOR NORTHEASTERN TARRANT AND NORTHWESTERN DALLAS COUNTIES... AT 200 PM CDT...STORM SPOTTERS AND DOPPLER RADAR OBSERVED A TORNADO. THIS TORNADO WAS LOCATED 3 MILES SOUTH OF EULESS...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 30 MPH. EULESS...IRVING AND DFW INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT ARE IN THE DIRECT PATH OF THIS TORNADO! IF YOU ARE IN ITS PATH...TAKE COVER IMMEDIATELY! THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR... EULESS AROUND 205 PM CDT... IRVING AROUND 210 PM CDT... COPPELL...GRAPEVINE AND CARROLLTON AROUND 215 PM CDT... THIS WILL IMPACT I-820 BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 21 AND 25. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... TO PROTECT YOUR LIFE...TAKE COVER NOW! MOVE UNDERGROUND OR TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF A STURDY BUILDING. AVOID WINDOWS. IF IN A MOBILE HOME...A VEHICLE OR OUTDOORS...MOVE TO THE CLOSEST SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER AND PROTECT YOURSELF FROM FLYING DEBRIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 All of this global temperature discussion is making me contemplate the nature of the climate. People should be concerned about global warming but it's not something that will destroy the Earth and might actually create new ecosystems and larger areas of habitable land. The Earth has been much warmer than it is now, but not in recorded human history. There was probably no sea ice at the poles at some point, based on fossil records. My primary reason for getting rid of global warming is not global temperature rise, it's the pollution caused by our fossil-fuel based society. One could also make a point that some portion of the warming is naturally occurring. It's frustrating that people have beat GW to death politically because it's become more like a scam where large corporations profit from carbon taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Video of tractor trailers being tossed into the air around Dallas: http://news.blogs.cn...area/?hpt=hp_c1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Video of tractor trailers being tossed into the air around Dallas: http://news.blogs.cn...area/?hpt=hp_c1 Sick video! Those tractor trailers were tossed as if they weighed like paper, amazing video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 TWC live feed: http://www.weather.c...hows/Livestream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Possible tornado forming as I type on TWC live feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Today is another one of those days when the guidance was too cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Today is another one of those days when the guidance was too cool. 12z NAM was farely accurate. Had 62-63 degree highs for the city: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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