wxmx Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Cell originated in the mountains near Monterrey, and there was some hail here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT_se-EcKf0 Edit: Confirmed about 25-30 mi north of Monterrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EquusStorm Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Wow, impressive. I wondered if we'd get any touchdowns south of the 'ol border today. What a photogenic funnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Looks landspout-ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EquusStorm Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Looks landspout-ish. Kinda what I was thinking; do we have radar data from that particular area during the tornado, or do we even know when it touched down? Pretty neat little funnel nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Looks landspout-ish. That's what I originally thought it was, but it's somewhat hard to discern in most of the footage. There appears to be a cloud lowering during the several times the camera pans up, but I don't know if that's connected to the actual funnel due to poor contrast and image quality. Also, at the end of the video, the debris cloud is pretty big, and it would take a really strong landspout to create that. Probably not impossible for a landspout to have that large of a debris cloud, but it's got me leaning more towards tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Is it really that rare to get tornadoes in NE Mexico? Seems like a pretty favorable spot since it's east of the mountains, giving that region a nice wind profile (southerly veering to westerly) and an elevated mixed layer. There's abundant moisture from the Gulf too at low levels. Maybe the cap simply doesn't break there often since the EML is too strong that far south? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 Looks landspout-ish. Crossed my mind too, but it looks that there was an actual mesocyclone, though it's difficult to know without a velocity radar signature. That's what I originally thought it was, but it's somewhat hard to discern in most of the footage. There appears to be a cloud lowering during the several times the camera pans up, but I don't know if that's connected to the actual funnel due to poor contrast and image quality. Also, at the end of the video, the debris cloud is pretty big, and it would take a really strong landspout to create that. Probably not impossible for a landspout to have that large of a debris cloud, but it's got me leaning more towards tornado. Convective activity was quite strong with this storm complex, actually forming an MCS near the border later yesterday. Unfortunately, MTY is not well covered by radar (there's no radar in MX that covers MTY ), so the only thing we have is 248NMI BRO radar. There were reports of hail from MTY to the lower Rio Grande Valley, with actual large hail observations in McAllen and surroundings. Is it really that rare to get tornadoes in NE Mexico? Seems like a pretty favorable spot since it's east of the mountains, giving that region a nice wind profile (southerly veering to westerly) and an elevated mixed layer. There's abundant moisture from the Gulf too at low levels. Maybe the cap simply doesn't break there often since the EML is too strong that far south? It's not impossible but CAP is a b**ch down here...there are very few upper level disturbances this far south most of the time, though CAPE is commonly > 1500. You can clearly see that frequency is quite low in this map, Laredo is in the white...and I'll assume in MTY is even less frequent, being farther SSW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 There were reports of hail from MTY to the lower Rio Grande Valley, with actual large hail observations in McAllen and surroundings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I have oft complained of lack of a radar on the river between DFX and BRO. EWX and CRP are just too far away, if they're working, the LRD area is covered, but from quite a distance. When the radars are down, or, like EWX, getting the dula-pol upgrades, the coverage is spotty. Juicy looking storms forming on the Serranias del Burro sometimes make it w/i range of the DFX radar, and are sometimes clearly supercellurar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslkahuna Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 It may have been a landspout to be sure but landspouts are a variety of tornado and can do significant damage nonetheless. This idea that only mesocyclone tornadoes are tornadoes is total crap. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Lizard Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Amazing how tornadoes cluster near big metro areas like DFW and OKC. /tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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