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April 2012 General Discussion


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New storms are firing towards Dubuque tonight.

Yeah, my local forecast has trended cooler of the next 7 days. Most temperatures are in the 50s. 38° to start April off!

Lol went from expecting upper 60's tomorrow to now fog and 54 here according to the point and click..

50's forecasted for the whole week now too.. :wub: the lake..

Also down to 38 right now..

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Lol went from expecting upper 60's tomorrow to now fog and 54 here according to the point and click..

50's forecasted for the whole week now too.. :wub: the lake..

Also down to 38 right now..

Saturday's forecast busted big time! Average lake temp is about 41°. Got 61° for the high tomorrow... see how that holds up.

That cell SSW of Moline is nasty looking.

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What a useless weather pattern, I hope those who were wanting below normal weather will be pleased with this pattern. This would be the equivalent of a cold and dry pattern in the winter....

:bag::gun_bandana::thumbsdown:

This thing needs to break...just frustrating as hell to be quite frank.

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WOW! Speechless how spoiled people have become. He says "useless weather pattern" hmmmm... Friday was one of the more interesting Thunderstorm days I have ever witnessed with Rain/Snow/Sleet and Hail with temps at 34 degrees. It was cool as hell. True weather fan would find beauty in any season even if it means no roofs were blown off homes or Trees uprooted and Ridiculous 85 degree weather in Mid March

Above average all year long, ALL YEAR! Warmest March on record, 4th warmest winter ever and Amazing amount of Severe weather in March in Michigan then finally get a stretch of Normal to below normal Temperatures with a few cloudy days and all I hear is complaints. Truly Amazing. IT'S MICHIGAN IT GETS CLOUDY AND COLD SOMETIMES... DEAL WITH IT!!!!

BTW: It's Sunny and 38 degrees right now. I would say it's a pretty darn nice of a morning for April 1st.

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I woke up to sun this morning, but it may not last. The stubborn northeast flow off the lakes continues to screw up the forecast. The visible loop shows the evil stratus deck expanding southwestward across northeast Iowa. If we get stuck under this crap again today will be another huge bust.

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WOW! Speechless how spoiled people have become. He says "useless weather pattern" hmmmm... Friday was one of the more interesting Thunderstorm days I have ever witnessed with Rain/Snow/Sleet and Hail with temps at 34 degrees. It was cool as hell. True weather fan would find beauty in any season even if it means no roofs were blown off homes or Trees uprooted and Ridiculous 85 degree weather in Mid March

Above average all year long, ALL YEAR! Warmest March on record, 4th warmest winter ever and Amazing amount of Severe weather in March in Michigan then finally get a stretch of Normal to below normal Temperatures with a few cloudy days and all I hear is complaints. Truly Amazing. IT'S MICHIGAN IT GETS CLOUDY AND COLD SOMETIMES... DEAL WITH IT!!!!

BTW: It's Sunny and 38 degrees right now. I would say it's a pretty darn nice of a morning for April 1st.

I am talking about going forward not what happened on Friday.... 2 totally different things all together.

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Quad Cities NWS once again having to cave to the incredibly stubborn cool, stratus-filled northeast flow. At least Cedar Rapids has been in the sun this morning with the front on top of us. We've managed to get into the low/mid 60s so far, but there is a several degree spread just across the city and the nws is capping us at 70 now rather than 80.

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE QUAD CITIES IA IL

1041 AM CDT SUN APR 1 2012

.UPDATE...

SFC FRONT ROUGHLY NEAR KCID-KCWI LINE AT 15Z. EXTENSIVE STRATUS AND

FOG WAS FOUND POST FRONTAL IN COOLER E/NE FLOW. CHALLENGE IS

MOVEMENT OF FRONT AND EVOLUTION OF LOW CLOUDS WITH HUGE IMPACTS

ON TEMPS. INCOMING SUITE OF MODEL GUIDANCE GENERALLY SUPPORT THE

BACK-DOOR COLD FRONT TO CONTINUE SLIDING TO THE W/SW THIS AFTN TO

NEAR KAWG-KGBG LINE TOWARD 00Z. LOW LEVEL FLOW JUST OFF SFC TO

925 MB IS PROGGED TO TURN MORE DUE EASTERLY THIS AFTN SUGGESTING

MORE OF WWD DRIFT THAN SWD WITH STRATUS. LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE TOUGH

AND VERY SLOW GO ON EROSION OF LOW CLOUDS... AND HAVE UPDATED TO

BEGIN LOWERING HIGH TEMPS IN MANY AREAS NORTH OF HWY 30. HAVE GONE

WITH L/M 60S FOR NOW BUT WITH EACH PASSING HOUR AS STRATUS HOLDS

50S LOOKING MORE AND MORE PROBABLE. ALSO EXTENDED MENTION OF FOG WITH

AREAS OF DENSE FOG THROUGH 18Z. MEANWHILE IN THE TALE OF TWO HALVES

OF CWA... THE SOUTH IS BASKING IN FULL SOLAR INSOLATION WITH SW

WINDS INCREASING AND DEEPER MIXING... AND WILL SEE NEAR RECORD TO

RECORD WARMTH WITH WIDESPREAD L/M 80S WITH ISOLD U80S POSSIBLE. WILL

CONTINUE TO MONITOR TRENDS AND UPDATE AS NEEDED. GRIDS/ZFP HAVE BEEN

SENT.

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This looks like a bunch of crap...

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We actually had some sunshine this morning, but its disappearing now.

:wub: :wub:

LOL what a bust in temps.. Some folks are gonna be pissed..

What a useless weather pattern, I hope those who were wanting below normal weather will be pleased with this pattern. This would be the equivalent of a cold and dry pattern in the winter....

Damn right I'm loving this Stebooo! :thumbsup:

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Good disco from LOT.

I like the part that is highlighted!

000

FXUS63 KLOT 011505 AAA

AFDLOT

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL

1005 AM CDT SUN APR 1 2012

.DISCUSSION...

1005 AM CDT

THE EARLY MORNING STORMS HAVE MOVED QUICKLY SOUTHEAST INTO

SOUTHERN INDIANA. IN THEIR WAKE...THEY HELPED TO SINK THE FRONTAL

BOUNDARY SOUTH TO NEAR INTERSTATE 88 AT AROUND 10 AM. TO THE

NORTH...WHERE STRATUS AND NORTHERLY WINDS PREVAIL...TEMPERATURES

HAVE BEEN BASICALLY FLAT LINE. WHILE SOME MIXING OUT OF THE

STRATUS MAY OCCUR LATE THIS MORNING...REINFORCING NORTHEAST COLD

AIR ADVECTION WILL EVOLVE AS A WEAK LOW SHIFTS EAST ALONG THE

FRONTAL BOUNDARY. THIS SCENARIO SHOULD ENABLE THE FRONT TO MOVE

SOUTH KEEPING TEMPERATURES COOLER TO THE NORTH...WITH PLACES

SEEING A FALL THIS AFTERNOON ESPECIALLY IN THE NEAR DOWNSTREAM OF

LAKE MICHIGAN. THE 01.12 NAM CAPTURES THIS TREND WELL...AND SEEMS

TO HAVE A DECENT HANDLE ON THE STRATUS EVOLUTION...HINTING AT LOW

CLOUDS ALONG AND IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE BOUNDARY THROUGH THIS

AFTERNOON.

IT IS A TALE OF TWO DIFFERENT DAYS ACROSS THE CWA AS TO THE SOUTH

OF THE FRONT...TEMPERATURES ARE OFF TO THE RACES WITH MID 60S

ALREADY AT 10 AM IN PERU AND PONTIAC. A WARM-UP TO AROUND OR JUST

ABOVE 80 DEGREES STILL LOOKS WELL IN PLACE...ESPECIALLY SEEING

GUSTS TO AROUND 20 KTS ALREADY INDICATING GOOD MIXING AND

CONTINUED LOW- LEVEL WARM AIR ADVECTION. THE 12Z ILX RAOB HAD NEAR

1300 J/KG OF MUCAPE WHICH SHOULD BE A GOOD BASELINE FOR WHAT IS

SHIFTING OVER THE SOUTHERN FORECAST AREA AS IT CONTINUES TO WARM.

THIS LOOKS TO MAXIMIZE/POOL THIS AFTERNOON BETWEEN 1500 AND 2000

J/KG IN THE FAR SOUTH...BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY PRONOUNCED

TRIGGER AND A QUICKLY WEAKENING LOW- LEVEL JET. THE WEAK SURFACE

CIRCULATION ALONG THE BOUNDARY MAY HELP TO INCREASE CONVERGENCE

SOME AS IT SHIFTS EAST THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. ALSO...AN ILL-

DEFINED SHORT WAVE RIPPLE IN EASTERN IA IS SHIFTING EAST. TOGETHER

IT MIGHT BE ENOUGH TO SPARK ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS...GENERALLY

SOUTH OF U.S. HIGHWAY 24 THIS AFTERNOON. ABOUT ONE THIRD OF

EXPLICIT CONVECTIVE GUIDANCE LOOKED AT HAS THAT FORM OF SOLUTION.

INSTABILITY PROFILES ARE ENOUGH TO WARRANT MAINLY A HAIL THREAT IF

ANY STORM WERE TO SUSTAIN ITSELF.

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WOW! Speechless how spoiled people have become. He says "useless weather pattern" hmmmm... Friday was one of the more interesting Thunderstorm days I have ever witnessed with Rain/Snow/Sleet and Hail with temps at 34 degrees. It was cool as hell. True weather fan would find beauty in any season even if it means no roofs were blown off homes or Trees uprooted and Ridiculous 85 degree weather in Mid March

Above average all year long, ALL YEAR! Warmest March on record, 4th warmest winter ever and Amazing amount of Severe weather in March in Michigan then finally get a stretch of Normal to below normal Temperatures with a few cloudy days and all I hear is complaints. Truly Amazing. IT'S MICHIGAN IT GETS CLOUDY AND COLD SOMETIMES... DEAL WITH IT!!!!

BTW: It's Sunny and 38 degrees right now. I would say it's a pretty darn nice of a morning for April 1st.

This cloudy and cool weather doesnt bother me one bit, regardless of the fact that its too warm to snow and too cold to do anything else.

BTW, it was the 6th warmest winter, not the 4th.

Counted the days....heres the Jan 1-Mar 31 temp departures for DTW for 2011 vs 2012

2012:

Below normal: 18 days

Exactly normal: 9 days

Above normal: 64 days

2011:

Below normal: 52 days

Exactly normal: 4 days

Above normal: 34 days

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Pretty big differences in the forecast for tomorrow compared to a few days ago for many areas. Especially southern WI/northeast IL.

This is the forecast for 21z tomorrow afternoon...

Fri morning's 12z NAM

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And today's 12z run for the same 21z time period. Went from mid 80s to low 60s. Would probably be even cooler than this if there's thick stratus again...

NAM_221_2012040112_F33_TMPF_2_M_ABOVE_GROUND.png

Kind of depressing for those who were looking forward to some more early season heat.

The extensive sunshine has allowed it to warm up to 69 here. The backdoor cold front is just northeast of here though and heading this way. Don't think the clouds will make it in, but the front will likely stop the temp rise here in a bit. Tomorrow now looks like we may be stuck in the 50s with thick stratus if these new 12z runs are correct. The trend is heading in that direction so I'm sure they are. If that indeed works out it could be in the 50s here, with 80s just a county or two south. If that happens I may jump in the truck and blast into that heat to shoot a video of the temp increase on the truck's temp display.

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