moneypitmike Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 We have two flowering bushes that have had their leaves begin to open (not sure what kind of flowers they are, but they're fragrant ones). Other than that, we have a few daffadils that have bloomed. Tulip leaves have come up. Other than that, brown branches abound. Having a new stove come in on Tuesday. I guess it'll be getting use right out of the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I just drove home from Rindge to Dobbs Ferry for the weekend, and I noticed a local maximum in vegetative development around Springfield and Hartford compared to the Monadnocks and NYC metro/coastal plain. In the CT River Valley, grass was completely green, all of the maples had the red flowers, and some of the earlier species such as magnolias had actually developed some leaves. As I approached Westchester, the maples' flowering was definitely reduced but the ornamental trees such as magnolia and cherry were still in bloom, unlike in the Monadnocks. During the whole car ride, I was thinking to myself that the trees in SW NH looked more like the trees in NYC metro usually do in the third week of April. Just a remarkable torch and I had the AC on around Springfield because it was so stuffy in the sun with traffic. 57.6/44 here in Dobbs Ferry at 1040pm...torch. The CT valley is it;s own torch microclimate.. Did you take your socks off to air out the feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 MEX is 25 and 21 at HYA. I'm sure most of the plants will be OK but we do have some stuff out down here that isn't usually out til late april / early may so we'll see. some of the ornamental stuff that is flowering might have some trouble. i agree with LL though - i've seen people planting their summer perennials (no idea why) and those will be toast when they sniff 32F...nevermind a hard freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 MEX is 25 and 21 at HYA. I'm sure most of the plants will be OK but we do have some stuff out down here that isn't usually out til late april / early may so we'll see. some of the ornamental stuff that is flowering might have some trouble. i agree with LL though - i've seen people planting their summer perennials (no idea why) and those will be toast when they sniff 32F...nevermind a hard freeze. It's going to decimate alot of the flowers that aren't usually growing now...The apple orchards are gonna get destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 It's going to decimate alot of the flowers that aren't usually growing now...The apple orchards are gonna get destroyed The apple trees around here haven't really put their flowers out yet, but just about every other flowering tree has and the red and green maples have as well. Also about 10-25% of the trees have put out leaves especially the smaller trees, but I really noticed a whole lot more green over the last day around my area. I'm not so much worried about the frost/freeze coming as I am about the damn squirrel that keeps digging out the tulip bulbs I have on the back porch planter that I have. Any ideas on who to keep the squirrel away, he was digging up 1-2 bulbs a day so I had to bring the planter inside until I get a strategy in place to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 The apple trees around here haven't really put their flowers out yet, but just about every other flowering tree has and the red and green maples have as well. Also about 10-25% of the trees have put out leaves especially the smaller trees, but I really noticed a whole lot more green over the last day around my area. I'm not so much worried about the frost/freeze coming as I am about the damn squirrel that keeps digging out the tulip bulbs I have on the back porch planter that I have. Any ideas on who to keep the squirrel away, he was digging up 1-2 bulbs a day so I had to bring the planter inside until I get a strategy in place to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I just drove home from Rindge to Dobbs Ferry for the weekend, and I noticed a local maximum in vegetative development around Springfield and Hartford compared to the Monadnocks and NYC metro/coastal plain. In the CT River Valley, grass was completely green, all of the maples had the red flowers, and some of the earlier species such as magnolias had actually developed some leaves. As I approached Westchester, the maples' flowering was definitely reduced but the ornamental trees such as magnolia and cherry were still in bloom, unlike in the Monadnocks. During the whole car ride, I was thinking to myself that the trees in SW NH looked more like the trees in NYC metro usually do in the third week of April. Just a remarkable torch and I had the AC on around Springfield because it was so stuffy in the sun with traffic. 57.6/44 here in Dobbs Ferry at 1040pm...torch. Same thing I saw on 495/395 yesterday. Lowell to ORH looks like mid spring south of ORH looks like the start of, except the grass and daffodil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Well the snow has locked up pretty darn tight... not the most pleasant skiing. Feels more like it should this time of year. Near freezing at 3,600ft and 36F at 1,500ft. Overcast. Feels like early November after an October snow storm with natural snow pretty much only above 2,500ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 My Norway maples haven't been buying the warmth. Nary a bud. Too bad, they deserve to die! (As you might guess, Norway maple is my #1 unfavorite among exotic tree species.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 How could a long range forecast like for the "heat wave" and then for a damaging freeze to follow be employed in the stock market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Too bad, they deserve to die! (As you might guess, Norway maple is my #1 unfavorite among exotic tree species.) Yeah the spring debris and ridiculously robust left drop in autumn are a pita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambone Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Fire up the smudge pots to protect your oranges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambone Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 The apple trees around here haven't really put their flowers out yet, but just about every other flowering tree has and the red and green maples have as well. Also about 10-25% of the trees have put out leaves especially the smaller trees, but I really noticed a whole lot more green over the last day around my area. I'm not so much worried about the frost/freeze coming as I am about the damn squirrel that keeps digging out the tulip bulbs I have on the back porch planter that I have. Any ideas on who to keep the squirrel away, he was digging up 1-2 bulbs a day so I had to bring the planter inside until I get a strategy in place to stop it. Buy chicken wire and cut out and then secure a piece that fits over the soil in your planter/garden that contain the tulip bulbs. Squirrels loves them some tulip bulbs. The greens will grow up through the screen and you should be fine. Make sure you get wire with wide enough holes is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 It's a good thread actually... Although, asking around the office of others that are gardening enthusiasts - I don't know how much of an "enthusiast" I really am, I just like to grow stuff I can eat and share with others - the only thing they have done is turned their top-soil for spring time annual aeration; if perhaps doing so a couple 3 week early, granted. As to the tulips and those kind of aggressive blossom types, kind of a Darwin test coming here. One thing that I am noticing is that with the exception of the red sugar maples, the hardwood species are quite a bit dormant still over interior eastern Mass. Oaks, broad leaf sugar maples, elms and what birch I could identify, they are all budless and twiggy looking still. Most of the premature foliage from what I am observing is of the "brush" variety of the flora - those species around or less than 10 feet. That makes sense year to year - those species benefit by releasing early because later on when the taller hardwoods bloom the lower growth becomes shaded and sun stolen. My hunch without being a botanist is that the brushes are triggered by temperature more singularly. For whatever the reason, the actual edifices we consider to fit more squarely into the category of "trees", with a few exceptions, they don't appear to be fooled by the last 10 days. As to the cold. I am actually a little surprised by those MAV numbers with all that wind. To get a 21F at any location below 1,500' with sustained 20kt winds at the end of March is pretty damn fantastic; particularly the snow pack has been beaten back to well N of the Can boarder with the U.S.. If it verifies it indicates some awesome advection terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 It's a good thread actually... Although, asking around the office of others that are gardening enthusiasts - I don't know how much of an "enthusiast" I really am, I just like to grow stuff I can eat and share with others - the only thing they have done is turned their top-soil for spring time annual aeration; if perhaps doing so a couple 3 week early, granted. As to the tulips and those kind of aggressive blossom types, kind of a Darwin test coming here. One thing that I am noticing is that with the exception of the red sugar maples, the hardwood species are quite a bit dormant still over interior eastern Mass. Oaks, broad leaf sugar maples, elms and what birch I could identify, they are all budless and twiggy looking still. Most of the premature foliage from what I am observing is of the "brush" variety of the flora - those species around or less than 10 feet. That makessense year to year - those species benefit by releasing early because later on when the tallerhardwoods bloom the lower growth becomes shaded and sun stolen. My hunch without being abotanist is that the brushes are triggered by temperature more singularly. For whatever the reason, theactual edifices we consider to fit more squarely into the category of "trees", with a few exceptions,theydon't appear to be fooled by the last 10 days. As to the cold. I am actually a little surprised by those MAV numbers with all that wind. To get a 21F at any location below 1,500' with sustained 20kt winds at the end of March is pretty damn fantastic; particularly the snow pack has been beaten back to well N of the Can boarder with the U.S.. If it verifies it indicates some awesome advection terms. Good post. A couple of points that ring true from the sea to elevated interior. Trees of sturdy variety away from buildings such as many of the maples and oaks are indeed still dormant as I mentioned among my Norway maples. Apple and cherry blossoms on some trees have opened. Can they withstand hours in the 20s? I suspect the answer is yes. But those that die validate Darwin. And yes, the short but impressive cold is pretty special given the turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Guidance is slowly coming up, not really a surprise. Some of those numbers seemed very cold. It's still a good cold shot with most area getting into the 20s Monday Night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Guidance is slowly coming up, not really a surprise. Some of those numbers seemed very cold. It's still a good cold shot with most area getting into the 20s Monday Night. NAM has 19 here for Mon night, lol. Not buying anythign that low. But low 20s looks decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 NAM has 19 here for Mon night, lol. Not buying anythign that low. But low 20s looks decent. It's going to be the wind and cold combo that will feel nasty I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 It's going to be the wind and cold combo that will feel nasty I think. Glad I'll be in Pittsburg Monday night. I can't stand dry cold windy spring wx...it's positively worth less without snow incoming. I don't mind it in fall and winter but in spring it has no intrinsic value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Glad I'll be in Pittsburg Monday night. I can't stand dry cold windy spring wx...it's positively worth less without snow incoming. I don't mind it in fall and winter but in spring it has no intrinsic value. Pittsburg will be damn cold...Pittsburgh on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Pittsburg will be damn cold...Pittsburgh on the other hand... Autocorrect ftl. Amazing they defaulted to the cold one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 00z MET guidance down to 24F at BOS and 17F at ORH, lol. Crazy NAM. It wont verify that low, but still looking like quite the system shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Reality check for folks after this weeks temps, Already told a few that were complaining about the colder temps, Welcome back to march Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Its 48/32 right now and it felt kind of chilly outside haha. 20-22F will def be a complete shock to the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Its 48/32 right now and it felt kind of chilly outside haha. 20-22F will def be a complete shock to the system. Cant wait to hear people complaining!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Cant wait to hear people complaining!!! Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monadnocks Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Forsythia was blooming today in Amherst, NH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELCwx Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Been around long enough to know that we were not going on a straight line to summer. Won't be much of a shock. No whining here. Spent the day fertilizing and killing weeds, getting the pool measured for a liner replacement and talking to painters about an overdue exterior makeover. Getting ready for some repair on the landscape too after the damage of Irene and the October snow. Heavy, heavy spending coming up. Nice to have a chance to get an early start on some of this. Hoping to see the torch make it's return by mid April to help push these projects along. Even a regression to normal would be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 12z MET numbers are still really cold...same as 00z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 12z MET numbers are still really cold...same as 00z. You 19 me 21 ,cold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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