andyhb Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 So saying truth is nonsense. Okay I will keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpsycho Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Cuz it seems insensitive when areas very near your location got hit with tornadoes which destroyed homes. (Sorry to be talking out of turn, but I also noticed your posting) No insensitivity intended. That is your perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Honestly sometimes you need to humble yourself on a day when people lost so much if not everything. Just be happy you still have a roof over your head and you were safe while looking at GR3 while others were hanging on for dear life. IMO the only screw zone today was in Dexter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpsycho Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Truely non combative was my post..Honestly sometimes you need to humble yourself on a day when people lost so much if not everything. Just be happy you still have a roof over your head and you were safe while looking at GR3 while others were hanging on for dear life. IMO the only screw zone today was in Dexter. Okay. This post truly helps me understand your perspective! Thank you for this response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I still don't understand your comment. As with every event there are some that get missed. Especially when dealing with t-storms. I know this all so very well. Today was my bad luck day. Oh well. Such is life. Normally I can chase but couldn't tonight. My point is why do you have to post a rude comment to someone who is bummed to be missed? Nothing I said was rude and I pointed it out because you did it multiple times today and you do it every single event and have for years Roy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 All Severe Warnings have since ended but per the radar some hail threats still continue for the boarder counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Looks like solid EF2/3 damage in Dexter. http://www.clickondetroit.com/weather/Homes-damaged-as-storms-move-through-SE-Michigan/-/1719236/9327826/-/ad31i4/-/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 http://tornadotitans.com/blog/2012/03/15/155-amazing-tornado-event-in-michigan Nice analysis of why this occurred in the given environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Looks like solid EF2/3 damage in Dexter. http://www.clickondetroit.com/weather/Homes-damaged-as-storms-move-through-SE-Michigan/-/1719236/9327826/-/ad31i4/-/index.html Agree 100% really incredible that there weren't any injuries or fatalities looking at the damage pictures on tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettenBailey Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Looks like solid EF2/3 damage in Dexter. http://www.clickonde...i4/-/index.html Pretty sure it will end up being rated as an EF3. I saw pictures and originally thought EF2, but after seeing the aerial footage, I have no doubts its an EF3. All my friends are ok in the area and I am very thankful to hear there were no injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 http://tornadotitans.com/blog/2012/03/15/155-amazing-tornado-event-in-michigan Nice analysis of why this occurred in the given environment. This is some great analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 http://tornadotitans...ent-in-michigan Nice analysis of why this occurred in the given environment. Great stuff. Forgot that there wasn't any tornado probs at all from the SPC today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 It also seemed to me as though the tornadic storm was following the dew point gradient/boundary as it turned right as I compared it with the SPC meso page dew point map. I've heard people debunk the idea that some hurricanes can create their own environment. But in this tornadic instance, at least on the mesoscale, it seems that the storm motion did enhance low level helicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 It also seemed to me as though the tornadic storm was following the dew point gradient/boundary as it turned right as I compared it with the SPC meso page dew point map. I've heard people debunk the idea that some hurricanes can create their own environment. But in this tornadic instance, at least on the mesoscale, it seems that the storm motion did enhance low level helicity. Fascinating stuff today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Damage looks EF2-3 in Dexter I agree with that guess...EF2 at minimum. It's possible that some structures weren't built well but unlikely that is the case in every spot with considerable damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I agree with that guess...EF2 at minimum. It's possible that some structures weren't built well but unlikely that is the case in every spot with considerable damage. Most of the subdivisions out that way are newer, the 2 houses with their 2nd floors off were probably built circa 1997-2001 just looking at the design layout of the neighborhood. Also they were substantially larger homes than you would see in the inner suburbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 http://www.weather.com/weather/videos/news-41/top-stories-169/the-power-of-a-tornado-before-and-after-26519 Take a look a this interesting analysis of before and after of a Dexter neighborhood from Dr. Greg Forbes. He's thinking high-end EF2 / low-end EF3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Ok people wonder why some get killed in tornadoes. Here are some 'geniuses' at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Ok people wonder why some get killed in tornadoes. Here are some 'geniuses' at work That thing was like a whole half mile away, dude! Appear to be multiple vorticies in that video, pretty impressive from a meteorological perspective I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettman320 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Fascinating stuff. It's crazy to think we may be looking at an ef-3 tornado that hit in an area the spc deemed to be a 0% probability of tornadoes. It just goes to show that we still have a lot to learn. I'm happy to hear there have been no reports of any injuries or fatalities. I will say the video Nick Nolte took is the most impressive video of a tornado I have seen in this area in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Looks like the first guy has a bad slice. Obviously didn't compensate for tornadic conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That thing was like a whole half mile away, dude! Appear to be multiple vorticies in that video, pretty impressive from a meteorological perspective I suppose. The things us college kids do. Seriously though even I wouldn't be playing disc golf with a tornado bearing down. Have to be some tough conditions to throw into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 The things us college kids do. Seriously though even I wouldn't be playing disc golf with a tornado bearing down. Have to be some tough conditions to throw into And they all probably have a good laugh on Reddit with Darwinism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Fascinating stuff. It's crazy to think we may be looking at an ef-3 tornado that hit in an area the spc deemed to be a 0% probability of tornadoes. It just goes to show that we still have a lot to learn. I'm happy to hear there have been no reports of any injuries or fatalities. I will say the video Nick Nolte took is the most impressive video of a tornado I have seen in this area in my life. If you want to get technical, there is never a 0% chance on the SPC outlooks, but they deemed the tornado probability to be less than 2%. In hindsight, perhaps higher probs should've been included. From a tornado perspective, today was a tough one to see in advance. Instability was very good but shear was borderline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Took this pic as the storm clouds loomed around sunset. Ended up with 0.54" of rain, nothing strong/severe. The footage of the tornado in the Ann Arbor vicinity (Dexter) was awesome, but the destruction of some homes always makes me glad a tornado didnt hit near me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Fascinating stuff. It's crazy to think we may be looking at an ef-3 tornado that hit in an area the spc deemed to be a 0% probability of tornadoes. It just goes to show that we still have a lot to learn. I'm happy to hear there have been no reports of any injuries or fatalities. I will say the video Nick Nolte took is the most impressive video of a tornado I have seen in this area in my life. Another example is the Goderich, Ontario F3 tornado on August 21, 2011. We were only thunderlined that day. The town is on the Lake Huron shoreline due east of the Michigan Thumb for reference. Edit, off the wikipedia There was little hint of what was to come that day as far as severe weather was concerned. Both Environment Canada in Toronto and the Storm Prediction Center in Oklahoma outlined the risk for non-severe thunderstorms that day across the lower Great Lakes.[3] Lapse rates yielded limited instability for severe weather, with a secondary cold front acting as a trigger. Given the much colder air aloft (freezing levels near 700 hPa) coupled with surface heating there was the risk for small hail and gusty outflow winds, which was also mentioned. Though some upper-level wind field parameters were sufficient for tornadic activity, they were marginal at best when coupled with the synoptic pattern at hand (a highly atypical pattern compared to previous major tornado events in the lower Great Lakes region). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Goderich,_Ontario_tornado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettman320 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Another example is the Goderich, Ontario F3 tornado on August 21, 2011. We were only thunderlined that day. The town is on the Lake Huron shoreline due east of the Michigan Thumb for reference. That is pretty impressive. Maybe it's the lake breezes or something but it seems like this area tricks forecasters quite a bit when it comes to severe weather. There was also that random tornado that threw those RVs into that lake up in the thumb in 2010. That cell wasn't even tornado warned and had barely had any rotation on it from the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Probably should just extend this thread through Sat or Sun, with a day to day marginal threat associated with a few weak waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettman320 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Here is what I woke up to this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Here is what I woke up to this morning. Thank god this just missed my area, I have a nice car that doesn't need dings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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