ineedsnow Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Even though it is very very rare ive seen it snow on may 20th i think it was on the valley floor so theres no way i would give up at the end of march or early april It would certainly benefit lower elevations as climo gets exponentially more hostile for snowfall from now on. I suppose that if indeed this change does occur...maybe the MJO will cycle out of P8 and P1 by mid April and hopefully allow better wx later in the month, but that's really getting ahead of ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I thoiught you were talking about my professor...lol I know scooter was kidding lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Up to 63 at KALB.... Another absurdly warm afternoon upcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 up to 72F, girls out in full force after hibernating all winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I didn't realize just how warm the long-range was looking until I noticed ALB forecasting 72 degrees next Monday. How often do you see forecasts for 20-25 degrees above climatology a week out? FWIW, the looks like the earliest 80 degree day on record in Albany is 82 degrees on March 16, 1990. If we hit 80 or better early part of next week...it would be the second earliest occurrence on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I would have taken that bet in a heartbeat as well. But think about it....it's kind of a win either way for Kevin too. Even though he would owe Will some beer..Kevin would get his snow whixh to him..is more valuable than any beer. Provided Will doesn't win by having ORH crushed while Tolland has the R/s line drifting just to his North. I'm liking my chances to catch more plowable snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Holy weeklies. Ridging into AK and Greenland. Warm party ends late this month. Here's a thought: April 6-7, 1982 we had a blockbuster storm. We had another one on Mar 31 - Apr 1, 1997, both 15 years apart. It's been 15 years since the last April blockbuster (at least here) so I guess we're due? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 my high is for 64 next monday a little disagreement between offices I didn't realize just how warm the long-range was looking until I noticed ALB forecasting 72 degrees next Monday. How often do you see forecasts for 20-25 degrees above climatology a week out? FWIW, the looks like the earliest 80 degree day on record in Albany is 82 degrees on March 16, 1990. If we hit 80 or better early part of next week...it would be the second earliest occurrence on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Ants, moths, flies, earwigs...I've seen them all out this afternoon. Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 my high is for 64 next monday a little disagreement between offices Extended MOS numbers are in the mid-60's for Albany...and those are weighted towards climatology when you get out 5-7 days. Calling for 70 or better for early next week is pretty reasonable at this point...I just am not used to seeing an NWS office go quite as a aggressive with numbers that far out. The forecast you've got from Taunton is what I'm more accustom to seeing from the NWS. But right now, no reason to think a forecast for mid-60's isn't going to bust low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Having seen nothing at all ...only the 500mb 00z GFS ... I thought this was amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 LOL, hopefully the GFS isn't right next week for those who thought days and days of 80+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 A major snowstorm struck Upstate NY exactly two weeks after that 82 degree reading in 1990 you know. Check it out. I'm not sure if KALB got screwed by valley/elevation, but a lot of snow fell in the Upstate. I didn't realize just how warm the long-range was looking until I noticed ALB forecasting 72 degrees next Monday. How often do you see forecasts for 20-25 degrees above climatology a week out? FWIW, the looks like the earliest 80 degree day on record in Albany is 82 degrees on March 16, 1990. If we hit 80 or better early part of next week...it would be the second earliest occurrence on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 This is an exciting time for weather, for me... We have these impressive positive departures, perhaps not so much in extremeness, but in length of time as also being an important characterization of this mid month. Yet there are hints of cold storminess on the distant horizon. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 pining for a few inches in april at the end of one of the warmest winters on record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 I don't think anyone is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 A major snowstorm struck Upstate NY exactly two weeks after that 82 degree reading in 1990 you know. Check it out. I'm not sure if KALB got screwed by valley/elevation, but a lot of snow fell in the Upstate. March 30? Couldn't have been more than 4", that's the daily snowfall record for Albany that day set in 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 LOL, hopefully the GFS isn't right next week for those who thought days and days of 80+ Yeah, you can see how subtle variation in the placement of the ridge node across a single run tries to destroy 10 cycles of clad trend. Eh, maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 pining for a few inches in april at the end of one of the warmest winters on record Coming into a foreign regional forum to try to get some weenie somewhere mad that he won't get snow til next November or December Get a freakin' life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Yeah, you can see how subtle variation in the placement of the ridge node across a single run tries to destroy 10 cycles of clad trend. Eh, maybe... Yeah it might be a little too aggressive with that. So the cold front goes from Montreal at hr 192 to DC at hr 204. OK...lol. Probably a product of truncation right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 It was March 21st (or maybe the 20th) in 1990. My memory was off. That's even more interesting because it is only five days after the 82F. That's the storm where Gloria Estefan (of Miami Soundmachine)'s bus crashed in the snowstorm in Scranton, PA. So it has to be one of those days. Gloria Estefan Hurt in Crash Involving Her Group's Bus AP Published: March 21, 1990 Sign In to E-Mail Print Gloria Estefan, lead singer of the musical group Miami Sound Machine, suffered a broken vertebra today when a truck ran into the band's bus on a snow-covered highway in the Poconos. The doctor who treated the 32-year-old Ms. Estefan said she had not suffered any paralysis, and a hospital spokeswoman said she was in stable condition. The accident occurred on Interstate 380 near Tobyhanna. Ms. Estefan and six other people, including her husband and son and the driver of the truck, were admitted to Community Medical Center in Scranton. March 30? Couldn't have been more than 4", that's the daily snowfall record for Albany that day set in 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 A major snowstorm struck Upstate NY exactly two weeks after that 82 degree reading in 1990 you know. Check it out. I'm not sure if KALB got screwed by valley/elevation, but a lot of snow fell in the Upstate. Only two years ago in 2010, we had a hot Easter weekend and we got to 82 all the way up here in Peacham on Saturday the 3rd.. We actually had a wading pool out to play in during the afternoon. On the 17th we had a couple of inches of snow and then on the 27th/28th we had 14 inches of snow and much of northern Vermont got over a foot. I think the April 27, 28 storm is still the biggest snowfall i have gotten in our three winters in this house. Here is the old Eastern WX thread which covers the heat as well as the storm. I believe the storm photos and totals are at page 19, 20. My last post on it said 10 inches but we were not done with the snow yet and my memory is we topped out at 14 inches. http://www.easternus...d/page__st__340 Here is the storm report http://www.erh.noaa....ports/index.php VERMONT ...ADDISON COUNTY... SOUTH LINCOLN 12.0 623 PM 4/28 SPOTTER CORNWALL 4.0 816 AM 4/28 SPOTTER SALISBURY 2 N 4.0 400 PM 4/28 COOP ...CALEDONIA COUNTY... WALDEN 20.0 300 PM 4/28 SPOTTER WATERFORD 18.0 1033 AM 4/28 SPOTTER HARDWICK 0.1 ENE 16.0 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS STANNARD 14.3 1059 AM 4/28 SPOTTER WALDEN 13.6 700 AM 4/28 COOP WATERFORD 13.0 1130 AM 4/28 PUBLIC LYNDONVILLE 11.5 930 AM 4/28 SPOTTER SUTTON 11.1 705 AM 4/28 COOP SHEFFIELD 2.8 NNW 11.0 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS SAINT JOHNSBURY 10.2 400 PM 4/28 COOP PEACHAM 10.0 635 AM 4/28 SPOTTER LYNDONVILLE 1.1 W 8.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS GROTON 4.4 WSW 4.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS ...CHITTENDEN COUNTY... NASHVILLE 1 E 23.5 200 PM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE NORTH UNDERHILL 23.5 317 PM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE JERICHO 17.0 805 AM 4/28 SPOTTER HUNTINGTON 1.1 E 14.8 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS WESTFORD 14.7 626 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE HANKSVILLE 10.3 700 AM 4/28 COOP WILLISTON VILLAGE 10.0 726 AM 4/28 SPOTTER WILLISTON 8.5 821 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE ESSEX JUNCTION 1 N 7.5 800 PM 4/28 COOP ESSEX CENTER 7.0 940 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE ESSEX CENTER 6.8 720 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE SOUTH BURLINGTON 5.5 150 PM 4/28 NWS OFFICE CHARLOTTE 2.9 NNE 2.7 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS ...ESSEX COUNTY... ISLAND POND 4.0 850 AM 4/28 COOP ...FRANKLIN COUNTY... SHELDON SPRINGS 16.5 730 AM 4/28 AMATEUR RADIO RICHFORD 14.5 730 AM 4/28 SPOTTER SAINT ALBANS 13.0 541 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE ENOSBURG FALLS 2 12.0 700 AM 4/28 COOP HIGHGATE 10.0 650 AM 4/28 SPOTTER SWANTON 6.1 700 AM 4/28 SPOTTER ...GRAND ISLE COUNTY... ISLE LA MOTTE 3.5 625 PM 4/28 SPOTTER SOUTH HERO 2.0 624 PM 4/28 SPOTTER ...LAMOILLE COUNTY... JEFFERSONVILLE 24.3 148 PM 4/28 SPOTTER EDEN 2 S 21.0 1240 PM 4/28 COOP MOUNT MANSFIELD 21.0 400 PM 4/28 COOP PLEASANT VALLEY 20.0 1135 AM 4/28 SPOTTER JEFFERSONVILLE 19.0 832 AM 4/28 COOP STOWE 0.2 SW 7.4 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS STOWE 6.5 830 AM 4/28 SPOTTER ...ORANGE COUNTY... CHELSEA 2 NW 3.0 700 AM 4/28 COOP CORINTH 1.3 700 AM 4/28 COOP STRAFFORD 1.0 830 AM 4/28 SPOTTER ...ORLEANS COUNTY... GREENSBORO BEND 15.2 632 PM 4/28 SPOTTER BROWNINGTON 12.0 1212 PM 4/28 SPOTTER BARTON 11.5 800 AM 4/28 SPOTTER BARTON 3.0 ENE 10.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS DERBY CENTER 1.8 NW 10.0 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS WESTFIELD 0.7 WNW 8.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS NEWPORT 7.5 700 AM 4/28 COOP MORGAN 6.7 SE 7.1 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS MORGAN 7.0 625 AM 4/28 SPOTTER ...RUTLAND COUNTY... RUTLAND 1.4 700 AM 4/28 COOP ...WASHINGTON COUNTY... CALAIS 19.0 1045 AM 4/28 SPOTTER CABOT 3.9 ENE 18.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS NORTH CALAIS 16.0 945 AM 4/28 SPOTTER MARSHFIELD 4.5 SW 11.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS WATERBURY CENTER 10.5 845 AM 4/28 SPOTTER WATERBURY CENTER 9.0 730 AM 4/28 AMATEUR RADIO NORTHFIELD 3 W 8.2 1110 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE WATERBURY 4.6 NNE 8.1 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS PLAINFIELD 8.0 730 AM 4/28 COOP WATERBURY 3.0 NW 6.1 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS WAITSFIELD 2 W 3.0 700 AM 4/28 COOP NORTHFIELD 1.0 710 AM 4/28 COOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Suns blazing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 It was March 21st (or maybe the 20th) in 1990. My memory was off. That's even more interesting because it is only five days after the 82F. That's the storm where Gloria Estefan (of Miami Soundmachine)'s bus crashed in the snowstorm in Scranton, PA. So it has to be one of those days. Gloria Estefan Hurt in Crash Involving Her Group's Bus AP Published: March 21, 1990 Sign In to E-Mail Print Gloria Estefan, lead singer of the musical group Miami Sound Machine, suffered a broken vertebra today when a truck ran into the band's bus on a snow-covered highway in the Poconos. The doctor who treated the 32-year-old Ms. Estefan said she had not suffered any paralysis, and a hospital spokeswoman said she was in stable condition. The accident occurred on Interstate 380 near Tobyhanna. Ms. Estefan and six other people, including her husband and son and the driver of the truck, were admitted to Community Medical Center in Scranton. Looks like ALB set record QPF for that day, 1.70" on 3/20/1990. Considering we did not break the snowfall record of 7"...looks like it was mostly rain in the valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Wowzers… It’s 70F with a DP over 50 here at the office. Yesterday was balmy, …today feels summery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Only two years ago in 2010, we had a hot Easter weekend and we got to 82 all the way up here in Peacham on Saturday the 3rd.. We actually had a wading pool out to play in during the afternoon. On the 17th we had a couple of inches of snow and then on the 27th/28th we had 14 inches of snow and much of northern Vermont got over a foot. I think the April 27, 28 storm is still the biggest snowfall i have gotten in our three winters in this house. Here is the old Eastern WX thread which covers the heat as well as the storm. I believe the storm photos and totals are at page 19, 20. My last post on it said 10 inches but we were not done with the snow yet and my memory is we topped out at 14 inches. Amazing! Down here in SNE we had mostly rain. I recorded 0.83" of precip and a big fat T for snow. Gotta love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Few locations might get a thunderstorm ... The NAM has been flagging < 0 LI's for a few runs now. Interesting to see the DP spike to the low to mid 50s. I am wondering if the previous CAPE calculations might have been too low? Now we have sun wedge in SNE, with a line of convection approaching eastern NYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Few locations might get a thunderstorm ... The NAM has been flagging < 0 LI's for a few runs now. Interesting to see the DP spike to the low to mid 50s. I am wondering if the previous CAPE calculations might have been too low? Now we have sun wedge in SNE, with a line of convection approaching eastern NYS Sun's out very intensely here John, feels like a May day. We have warmed nicely to 66 with a dew point of 56. Wouldn't be surprised to hear a rumble as these may ramp up after they go through the HV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thick clouds here. .02" rain earlier 50/45 snow eating weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Typical.... LOL But the Catskills got crushed and probably where I live now did well. Looks like ALB set record QPF for that day, 1.70" on 3/20/1990. Considering we did not break the snowfall record of 7"...looks like it was mostly rain in the valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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