powderfreak Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 How much snow does .25 QPF with -12,-15 850 usually give Mansfield? I'd say 3-6" in that case but locally 6-8" above 3,000ft. Really depends on the situation but when it's orographic precip (ie lift is centered near H85) those temps would give 20-40:1 ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 30/14, Just a beautiful late Winter day. Got a few runs in at Catamount early this afternoon. Just awesome conditions. Skiing, ice fishing snowmachining all in full swing. Torch smorch tons of Winter fun left. Hey Pete, is there a small pond right near your property? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 In another week, I would not want to be ice fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I wonder out loud if this year might be a record in terms of earliest ski resort closings in NNE in history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Wow...cool! Thanks for sharing. You can really see how the west side of the Taconics got shadowed with that last storm. I still have solid snow cover here (2-5"). Tip's cosmic phallic object in the Hudson and lower Champlain valleys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Hey Pete, is there a small pond right near your property? Yes..it's where he washes his hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 In another week, I would not want to be ice fishing. 2 days all winter down here but that means lots of fish not caught, should be a fantastic spring. Stripers will be chasing buckies a lot sooner too up the rivers ( water temp dependent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Nice weenie patch SW of BOS. What a screw job this year. Luckily it's over. I guess inside of 128=rain has some credence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Hey Pete, is there a small pond right near your property? Nope, no ponds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I wonder out loud if this year might be a record in terms of earliest ski resort closings in NNE in history? Stop. The ski areas will have snow longer than they'll have skier traffic. As usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I wonder out loud if this year might be a record in terms of earliest ski resort closings in NNE in history? LOL.... I'm not sure you comprehend how long man made glacial snow sticks around. We were in a far worse situation in 2010. Resorts make key stockpiles just for that reason. It all depends on on overnight lows...that's the kicker. Plus NNE will have some cold periods even if they are short...that bottom few feet will be very hard to melt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Tip's cosmic phallic object in the Hudson and lower Champlain valleys. Wow wonder if they and Boston had similar met winter totals. Did they break their futility record by .1 too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 LOL.... I'm not sure you comprehend how long man made glacial snow sticks around. We were in a far worse situation in 2010. Resorts make key stockpiles just for that reason. It all depends on on overnight lows...that's the kicker. Plus NNE will have some cold periods even if they are short...that bottom few feet will be very hard to melt. He was Trolling bro strict troll post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 LOL.... I'm not sure you comprehend how long man made glacial snow sticks around. We were in a far worse situation in 2010. Resorts make key stockpiles just for that reason. It all depends on on overnight lows...that's the kicker. Plus NNE will have some cold periods even if they are short...that bottom few feet will be very hard to melt. Do you happen to know what year was the earliest closing on record up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Do you happen to know what year was the earliest closing on record up there? Most areas wind down the first week of April every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Wow wonder if them and Boston had similar met winter totals. Did they break their futility record by .1 too? ALB has had a real rough winter...BTV too. Amazing the difference between the Greens and BTV this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Most areas wind down the first week of April every year. Yeah..so you figure 2..maybe 3 weeks early this year? Maybe March 22nd ish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Do you happen to know what year was the earliest closing on record up there? Our earliest in recent memory was 2010 like April 7-10 time frame I think but don't quote me on that right now. We historically go until the third weekend in April. Thats a pretty standard closing date in VT except for Sugarbush, Jay, and Killington which try for May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Yeah..so you figure 2..maybe 3 weeks early this year? Maybe March 22nd ish? Absolutely no one of the major NNE resorts will close that early. I'll put money on that one. It will not be 70F 24/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Yeah..so you figure 2..maybe 3 weeks early this year? Maybe March 22nd ish? Yea that's about right for Wachusett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I would close them now, oh look Facebook is lurking in our thread .LONG TERM /THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY/...MODELS ARE IN AGREEMENT ON KEEPING THE APPROACHING COLD FRONT AND ASSOCIATED PRECIPITATION AT BAY UNTIL LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON IN FAR NORTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE. DURING THURSDAY EVENING INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS...THE FRONT SPEEDS THROUGH NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND AND TAKES THE MAJORITY OF THE PRECIPITATION OFFSHORE WITH IT BY FRIDAY MORNING. THERE COULD BE SOME VERY LIGHT ACCUMULATING SNOW IN THE MOUNTAINS LATE THURSDAY NIGHT. ON FRIDAY THE MODELS SWING THE UPPER LOW ACROSS THE AREA AND KEEP THE THREAT OF SOME SHOWERS IN THE FORECAST THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. MODELS AGREE ON BRINGING A STRONG COOL HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM INTO THE AREA ON SATURDAY AND THEN OFFSHORE SUNDAY. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS THEN BEGIN TO DIVERGE ON THE HANDLING OF A SYSTEM EJECTING OUT OF THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY INTO THE NORTHEASTERN STATES ON MONDAY INTO TUESDAY. UNCERTAINTY IS HIGH WITH THE TIMING...STRENGTH AND POSITION OF THIS FEATURE. FOR NOW HAVE GONE WITH NEAR NORMAL TEMPERATURES AND A CHANCE OF SHOWERS BOTH DAYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I think what you are forgetting is that you can have 2-m temps in the 60s at BTV but be in the 40s on the mountain. Also consider north and east exposures that shadow in the afternoon during max heating. Ski areas were built in areas that hold snow longest as back in the day they didn't rely on snowmaking. They studied where snow lasts the absolute longest and then built the ski runs there. North facing steep hillsides can sustain a sizable torch...just think of how long snow can last in the shadow of your house through warm afternoons and then apply that to a huge scale with snowmaking cement that's up to 20 feet deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Our earliest in recent memory was 2010 like April 7-10 time frame I think but don't quote me on that right now. We historically go until the third weekend in April. Thats a pretty standard closing date in VT except for Sugarbush, Jay, and Killington which try for May. I was at LSC in March '98 for the last week inferno and flooding. How were the resorts on April 1 that year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I skied Stowe on April 3rd, 2010... Which if you recall PF was a day with temperatures in the mid 80's in town, and mid 70's on the mountain. One could see the snow melting significantly each consecutive run. We skied 7:30-1 with no breaks until we were swimming in sweat but it was definitely a day to remember not only because of the temperatures but because of the incredible slush bumps on hayride and liftline! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I skied Stowe on April 3rd, 2010... Which if you recall PF was a day with temperatures in the mid 80's in town, and mid 70's on the mountain. One could see the snow melting significantly each consecutive run. We skied 7:30-1 with no breaks until we were swimming in sweat but it was definitely a day to remember not only because of the temperatures but because of the incredible slush bumps on hayride and liftline! That's when the DC-NYC corridor got into the low 90s. One of the most epic early torches on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 LOL.... I'm not sure you comprehend how long man made glacial snow sticks around. We were in a far worse situation in 2010. Resorts make key stockpiles just for that reason. It all depends on on overnight lows...that's the kicker. Plus NNE will have some cold periods even if they are short...that bottom few feet will be very hard to melt. Kevin is a riot. I was at Killington the other day and the Superstar "glacier" was already established. Mountains of snow piled everywhere. There is a mound at the top of the headwall that is probably 30' high. It could be 70 everyday from now until May and they'll still be skiing. Kevin uses his yard in tropical Ct as his gauge for how long snow will last everywhere. He's either trolling or is clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I was at LSC in March '98 for the last week inferno and flooding. How were the resorts on April 1 that year? That was before my time up here but this convo has sparked my interest in closing dates...I'll find out and make a list of closing dates past 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I skied Stowe on April 3rd, 2010... Which if you recall PF was a day with temperatures in the mid 80's in town, and mid 70's on the mountain. One could see the snow melting significantly each consecutive run. We skied 7:30-1 with no breaks until we were swimming in sweat but it was definitely a day to remember not only because of the temperatures but because of the incredible slush bumps on hayride and liftline! Yep! That was Easter weekend I think right or thereabouts? That was the stretch that did us in that year. We only made it to the next weekend. I remember Easter sunrise service and it was in the low 60s at 1500ft base area predawn at 5am. It was warmer than most June mornings. That mid/upper 70s recird heat followed by lows in the 60s and humidity contributed to the most impressive 24 hour melts I've ever seen. The skiing was so much fun though...t-shirts and shorts and epic sunburns. Anyone remember what H85 temps were like that weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Yep! That was Easter weekend I think right or thereabouts? That was the stretch that did us in that year. We only made it to the next weekend. I remember Easter sunrise service and it was in the low 60s at 1500ft base area predawn at 5am. It was warmer than most June mornings. That mid/upper 70s recird heat followed by lows in the 60s and humidity contributed to the most impressive 24 hour melts I've ever seen. The skiing was so much fun though...t-shirts and shorts and epic sunburns. Anyone remember what H85 temps were like that weekend? Yea, Easter Sunday was 4th... I remember being on 89 at 10:30 PM on the 2nd with 53 degree temperatures. If I recall correctly, it got down to about 44 that night, but I Saturday night-Sunday morning was the night that really killed you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Yea, Easter Sunday was 4th... I remember being on 89 at 10:30 PM on the 2nd with 53 degree temperatures. If I recall correctly, it got down to about 44 that night, but I Saturday night-Sunday morning was the night that really killed you guys. Yeah i just remember going up Sunday morning in awe that it was in the 60s with dews well up in the 50s at 5am. Also was just in awe at the amount of snow that had melted in the previous 24 hours. The snowpack had been primed and isothermal from warm days prior, and it was ready to melt efficiently on that last 24 hour record heat event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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