Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Full steam ahead on the torch Meh windy 50 s Thursday, clouds rain Fri then chilly windy 40 s Weekend, sounds awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Meh windy 50 s Thursday, clouds rain Fri then chilly windy 40 s Weekend, sounds awesome. You mean 65 Thursday with wind Showers end Thursday nite/Friday sun and clouds 40's/45 Saturday/50+ Sun /70's later next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Incredible day outside, wall to wall sunshine across new england, whether your thatching lawns on the south coast or hitting the slopes its simply sensational. I cant believe how dry things are here, even after the rain the past ten days, nw winds and dewpoints in the single digits will do that though, no wonder okx had put out SWS for brush fires. I see winds have come around to the sw, and so it begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 If I lived out there..anytime I get a tornado warning I'm in the storm shelter for an hour or whatever until the line passes. So it might be mean I have to spend 24 hours per spring in a shelter...better than being dead. I saw reports of people that were driving etc...apparently they don't look at wx radar. Just have this horrible feeling this year for that. Beyond sickening to read the stories and see the despair. Tornados would be cool if they stayed out on the plains in the fields. Unreal power and fascinating but holy hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 You mean 65 Thursday with wind Showers end Thursday nite/Friday sun and clouds 40's/45 Saturday/50+ Sun /70's later next week I think tomorrow is the best feeling day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 People that live in suburbia in their cul de sacs can't imagine the misery of mud season. Rain doesn't just drain into storm drains and disappear here. It lays and won't absorb until the solar rays get strong enough in May to really dry the clay based soil out. It's a mud hell for the horses out there in April, or once the frost is lost. Can't avoid mud season in my neighborhood, but it belongs in April, preferably mid-late April. Having it begin mid-March (2010 - ugh!) is not a good thing, because an early start is more likely to mean a long duration mudrun than an early ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 If I lived out there..anytime I get a tornado warning I'm in the storm shelter for an hour or whatever until the line passes. So it might be mean I have to spend 24 hours per spring in a shelter...better than being dead. I saw reports of people that were driving etc...apparently they don't look at wx radar. Helps to have a shelter, and not everyone has or will have access to one, unfortunately. My daughter/son-in-law & family were fortunate enough to afford a full basement when they took advantage of that 2010 1st-home deal and bought a place in Decatur, IL. They wouldn't even consider a house w/o that feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 If I lived out there..anytime I get a tornado warning I'm in the storm shelter for an hour or whatever until the line passes. So it might be mean I have to spend 24 hours per spring in a shelter...better than being dead. I saw reports on of people that were driving etc...apparently they don't look at wx radar. I saw your posts before on this subject but did not reply. Rick, some people are stupid, lack common sense and are totally unaware, we are unprepared as a majority. Those that are aware, are for the most part alive. I do not have a storm shelter do you? You are in an open field too. It happened not far from you and I. Last year I was under a tornado warning as they warned our entire county, I knew we were safe but my phone was going nuts with people asking me if they should go in the basement. Imagine being out there and getting warnings all the time that never panned out. It's a huge problem. The other problem is with all the non radio media people listen to in cars, folks traveling could be in the dark. GPS smartphone county/ areas auto warnings need to be instituted. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 You would think that code would require a shelter or one of those concrete safe rooms they build. Helps to have a shelter, and not everyone has or will have access to one, unfortunately. My daughter/son-in-law & family were fortunate enough to afford a full basement when they took advantage of that 2010 1st-home deal and bought a place in Decatur, IL. They wouldn't even consider a house w/o that feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I think tomorrow is the best feeling day of the week. Just drove through Bigelow Hollow area, and there's still a good couple of inches of snow up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Just drove through Bigelow Hollow area, and there's still a good couple of inches of snow up there. Where is that Garth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I saw your posts before on this subject but did not reply. Rick, some people are stupid, lack common sense and are totally unaware, we are unprepared as a majority. Those that are aware, are for the most part alive. I do not have a storm shelter do you? You are in an open field too. It happened not far from you and I. Last year I was under a tornado warning as they warned our entire county, I knew we were safe but my phone was going nuts with people asking me if they should go in the basement. Imagine being out there and getting warnings all the time that never panned out. It's a huge problem. The other problem is with all the non radio media people listen to in cars, folks traveling could be in the dark. GPS smartphone county/ areas auto warnings need to be instituted. JMHO That's only part of the issue. I agree that we need GPS based warnings to phones but the bigger issue IMO is the number of false alarms. People aren't going to drop what they're doing several times per year to sit in a basement with a mattress on their head along with a hard hat for 45 minutes or so. How many people in Joplin heard the warning but didn't believe there was an actual threat because they've had so many false alarms? That's the big issue. We need to find a way to discriminate between the most dangerous of storms (i.e. a Springfield, Joplin, Tuscaloosa) and storms that show borderline rotation for a couple sweeps that result in warnings. All tornado warnings shouldn't be created equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I do have a full basement, but no shelter. Course my odds of a direct hit from a F3 or better are maybe 1% of the odds in Kansas, etc...if that. The Mass tornado was like a once per who knows 25, 50 years event. In 1987 an F3 hit about eight miles southeast of here in Altamont, NY ...last time any was real close. Obviously 99% of the people got into some kind of shelter I guess or we'd have many more dead, but it seems crazy to have 50 dead, etc. each major outbreak. I saw your posts before on this subject but did not reply. Rick, some people are stupid, lack common sense and are totally unaware, we are unprepared as a majority. Those that are aware, are for the most part alive. I do not have a storm shelter do you? You are in an open field too. It happened not far from you and I. Last year I was under a tornado warning as they warned our entire county, I knew we were safe but my phone was going nuts with people asking me if they should go in the basement. Imagine being out there and getting warnings all the time that never panned out. It's a huge problem. The other problem is with all the non radio media people listen to in cars, folks traveling could be in the dark. GPS smartphone county/ areas auto warnings need to be instituted. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I think tomorrow is the best feeling day of the week. Outside shot @ 70 on Thursday. Even with wind that's summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 That's only part of the issue. I agree that we need GPS based warnings to phones but the bigger issue IMO is the number of false alarms. People aren't going to drop what they're doing several times per year to sit in a basement with a mattress on their head along with a hard hat for 45 minutes or so. How many people in Joplin heard the warning but didn't believe there was an actual threat because they've had so many false alarms? That's the big issue. We need to find a way to discriminate between the most dangerous of storms (i.e. a Springfield, Joplin, Tuscaloosa) and storms that show borderline rotation for a couple sweeps that result in warnings. All tornado warnings shouldn't be created equal. I did mention false alarms in my post and totally agree with you. I was warned last year for the tornado that was moving due east some 45 miles north of me, we can do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I'd be out in it filming F the mattress on the head inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I did mention false alarms in my post and totally agree with you. I was warned last year for the tornado that was moving due east some 45 miles north of me, we can do better. oops... yeah I see that now. I think that's really one of the biggest problems we have. I'm not sure the best way to fix it. A denser radar network would help discriminate between tornadic/non tornadic is a start but I doubt that happens anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I do have a full basement, but no shelter. Course my odds of a direct hit from a F3 or better are maybe 1% of the odds in Kansas, etc...if that. The Mass tornado was like a once per who knows 25, 50 years event. In 1987 an F3 hit about eight miles southeast of here in Altamont, NY ...last time any was real close. Obviously 99% of the people got into some kind of shelter I guess or we'd have many more dead, but it seems crazy to have 50 dead, etc. each major outbreak. It's not like they hit a farmhouse in KS though, heavily wooded residential areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Oh well ...some people just like to play the odds in life. It's a rational choice I suppose as long as you understand the consequences. I noticed some of those victorian homes in one of those towns had clearly survived 100+ years so it goes to show how infrequent it is to get an F3/F4 tornado in any one given spot. That's only part of the issue. I agree that we need GPS based warnings to phones but the bigger issue IMO is the number of false alarms. People aren't going to drop what they're doing several times per year to sit in a basement with a mattress on their head along with a hard hat for 45 minutes or so. How many people in Joplin heard the warning but didn't believe there was an actual threat because they've had so many false alarms? That's the big issue. We need to find a way to discriminate between the most dangerous of storms (i.e. a Springfield, Joplin, Tuscaloosa) and storms that show borderline rotation for a couple sweeps that result in warnings. All tornado warnings shouldn't be created equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Mixed thoughts... In one respect, the GEFs mean at CPC and CDC don't support the Euro's mean; so there's a bit of a battle there. The Euro's would support positive departures, some approaching exotic at times being quite plausible, while the GEFs if anything supports a colder/stormier times by mid month. Those two are essentially thus out of phase with one another. The GEFs side of that is not new, either. The nightly teleconnectors have been quite consistent in raising the PNA some 2 total standard deviations from -1 to aoa +1 by Ds 7-10. That would not support the Euro notion...pretty much, at all. That said, I think the Euro is the superior tool over the long haul - though it's been proven fallable this last cold season. Tough call here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I'd be out in it filming F the mattress on the head inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Lol I see Pete is in full attack mode. Even going after the moderates in the snow weenie party (Scott) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Kevs last tornado chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I'd be out in it filming F the mattress on the head inside. Absolutely. When I lived there, the tornado siren was merely a signal for us to get outside and look to the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 The chairlifts are now issuing forecasts... banner day in progress in New England. Incredible day outside, wall to wall sunshine across new england, whether your thatching lawns on the south coast or hitting the slopes its simply sensational. I cant believe how dry things are here, even after the rain the past ten days, nw winds and dewpoints in the single digits will do that though, no wonder okx had put out SWS for brush fires. I see winds have come around to the sw, and so it begins. Great day out there. Who needs 55F when you can have 30s, sunny, and the warm March sun like today. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Eh, the public will never fully understand and we'll always have people who die unnecessarily. I think it's virtually impossible to have a tornado warning last for 30 minutes or however normally they last and warn to the nearest street block. So naturally we'll have areas that are warned, receive no tornado, and people probably become agitated and never take it seriously again. If there is one good thing about the media dramatization....it's that scenes of devastation are probably making people think twice about not taking warnings seriously. I've never heard more people come up to me and talk about tornadoes like I'm hearing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Hows the Euro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Eh, the public will never fully understand and we'll always have people who die unnecessarily. I think it's virtually impossible to have a tornado warning last for 30 minutes or however normally they last and warn to the nearest street block. So naturally we'll have areas that are warned, receive no tornado, and people probably become agitated and never take it seriously again. If there is one good thing about the media dramatization....it's that scenes of devastation are probably making people think twice about not taking warnings seriously. I've never heard more people come up to me and talk about tornadoes like I'm hearing now. Agreed 100%. Last year on 6/1, people the next day told me it was all exaggerated, and they knew nothing would happen. You could try to explain it to them, but to be honest most probably don't even want to take the time to learn about it. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Hows the Euro? Very transient through 180 in all sectors, nice day tomorrow thursday, showers Frid, cool weekend, cold in NNE, up down Spring pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Hows the Euro? Has a much above normal pattern everyday except Fri/Sat..after that off to the torch's again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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