MJO812 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Maybe it was Mt. Zucker's fault that this winter sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Why do people like hot temps? It's disgusting. I don't like anything other than room temps. But extreme temps are cool, along with many other forms of extreme weather. Hence why I can't call this winter a failure, since it produced record October snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I don't like anything other than room temps. But extreme temps are cool, along with many other forms of extreme weather. Hence why I can't call this winter a failure, since it produced record October snow. This winter was a failure. The fall was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Maybe it was Mt. Zucker's fault that this winter sucked. He wrecked it for me. Moved to within 20 miles of me and we got hosed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 yup, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to notice that our summers are getting hotter and that winter isnt getting any colder. More daytime highs in the 90s. Even more noticeable here in the city is the number of nighttime lows that stay above 80F. The last 6 Julys the avg high/low has been 85/71 (2006), 82/68 (2007), 86/71 (2008), 80/65 (2009), 90/73 (2010), 89/72 (2011). The last two summers are without precedent except for 1999 (with avg highs around 90). July 2010 had 3 nights with 80F+ mins, July 2011 had 2 (but one was 84F). Before that the last 80F+ min in July was in 2002. Looking at the entire JJA period, in the last two summers: Avg daily temps 90F+: 2010: 2 2011: 2 (hottest day ever, avg daily temp of 94F) The last 90+ day was in Aug 2001 (93F). To have any day where the avg daily temp is 90F+ at this latitude is completely insane as it is. To have back to back years with 2 each has got to be close to unprecedented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 This winter was a failure. The fall was not. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I just hope we don't see over 100 degrees this summer. That day where it reached over 100 last summer was insane. I reached 104. He wrecked it for me. Moved to within 20 miles of me and we got hosed Yep. He ruined it for everyone lol. How much snow do you have for the winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I just hope we don't see over 100 degrees this summer. That day where it reached over 100 last summer was insane. I reached 104. Yep. He ruined it for everyone lol. How much snow do you have for the winter? It was the warmest day on record and the second highest temp recorded on record for NYC, so chances we see that again are remote. But I guess in this era of extreme torch it could happen. Back to back summers where we got into the mid 100s with lows in the low/mid 80s is kind of crazy. However, this summer I'm going for at least one 80F dewpoint. We got damn close last summer, and DCA got up to 81F one evening if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Im for pretty much anything that causes death and destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I just hope we don't see over 100 degrees this summer. That day where it reached over 100 last summer was insane. I reached 104. Yep. He ruined it for everyone lol. How much snow do you have for the winter? My sig says it all.. around 45" Avg around 76 or so. October makes it look better than it was. Where Tubes (Nate) moved to usually gets more than me, probably 80-85" is my guess. It has been a tough year for him on the slopes of Mt Monadnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 awesome snows shower goi9ng on now. huge flakes covering car tops and grass. not alot but nice to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 At this rate I'll probably end up having observed more isolated snow showers than accumulating snow events for the entire winter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmc10 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Nice burst of snow here in NW Bergen NJ! Wish we saw more of this during the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Flurries in midtown. Nice to see. Snow, we hardly knew thee (this winter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 To have any day where the avg daily temp is 90F+ at this latitude is completely insane as it is. When it comes to summer heat in N. America...or at least potential summer heat...latitude borders on irrelevant...at least south of say 55 N...elevation is probably more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 luckily our summer climo is headed in the opposite direction of your wishes I don't know if two summers constitute a trend...truth be told, there have been quite a number of cool summers in the area since the hellish 1988 one was laid to rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 yup, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to notice that our summers are getting hotter and that winter isnt getting any colder. 2009? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 When it comes to summer heat in N. America...or at least potential summer heat...latitude borders on irrelevant...at least south of say 55 N...elevation is probably more important. Potential summer heat perhaps. But extended periods of suffocating warmth, it certainly is important. Try spending a July or August in NC vs NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 2009? point and case, you can only think of 1 year that was very below normal. I can think of like 10 torched summers off the top of my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 My attempt of a spring outlook... http://aeroweather.org/2012/03/04/spring-2012-outlook/ let me know what you guys think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 point and case, you can only think of 1 year that was very below normal. I can think of like 10 torched summers off the top of my head ??? 90 degree days by summer: 2003- 9 2004 - 2 2006 - 8 2007 - 10 2008 - 12 2009 - 7 NYC averages 14.9 days of 90+ degrees a year. In the past 10 years, 6 years were well below that average. NYC did not see a 100 degree day from 2002-2009. Not 1. http://www.erh.noaa....s/90degdays.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 ??? 90 degree days by summer: 2003- 9 2004 - 2 2006 - 8 2007 - 10 2008 - 12 2009 - 7 NYC averages 14.9 days of 90+ degrees a year. In the past 10 years, 6 years were well below that average. NYC did not see a 100 degree day from 2002-2009. Not 1. http://www.erh.noaa....s/90degdays.htm The average temps of course have risen in the past 40 years of summers. Thats mostly due to UHI and global warming (whether man made or natural). But these 6 winters I listed are FAR from a torch and FAR from, hot summers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Just for you guys, snow back in my hometown, Staunton VA: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 ??? 90 degree days by summer: 2003- 9 2004 - 2 2006 - 8 2007 - 10 2008 - 12 2009 - 7 NYC average 19 days of 90+ degrees a year. In the past 10 years, 6 years were well below that average. NYC did not see a 100 degree day from 2002-2009. Not 1. http://www.erh.noaa....s/90degdays.htm LGA: 2000 - 12 2001 - 17 2002 - 35 2003 - 17 2004 - 7 2005 - 30 2006 - 22 2007 - 23 2008 - 19 2009 - 8 2010 - 48 2011 - 19 JFK: 2000 - 6 2001 - 8 2002 - 21 2003 - 12 2004 - 1 2005 - 17 2006 - 12 2007 - 7 2008 - 9 2009 - 6 2010 - 32 2011 - 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 More from the Shenandoah Valley.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 LGA: 2000 - 12 2001 - 17 2002 - 35 2003 - 17 2004 - 7 2005 - 30 2006 - 22 2007 - 23 2008 - 19 2009 - 8 2010 - 48 2011 - 19 JFK: 2000 - 6 2001 - 8 2002 - 21 2003 - 12 2004 - 1 2005 - 17 2006 - 12 2007 - 7 2008 - 9 2009 - 6 2010 - 32 2011 - 13 Do you have the average 90 degree+ days per year from these locations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Do you have the average 90 degree+ days per year from these locations? Nevermind. I found it. LGA: 16 JFK: 10 http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/online/ccd/max90temp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Do you have the average 90 degree+ days per year from these locations? If you are wondering why LGA has so many more than NYC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 JFK in the past 10 years: 4 summers below average 90+ degree days 4 summers above average 90+ degree days 2 summers near average _________________________ NYC: 5 summers below average 4 summers above average 1 summer near average _________________________ LGA: 2 summers below average 7 summer above average 1 summer near average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 If you are wondering why LGA has so many more than NYC... That would've affected the overall average 90+ degree days. NYC and LGA both average the same 90+ degree days a year. The area around LGA has underwent major urbanization since the 1960's and has been affected greatly by urban heat effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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