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It got shoved a little SE because of that tiny little leading piece of vorticity. It still gives BOS like 0.40" qpf from round 2. But it didn't quite have the qpf bomb that 00z did on that.

By a miracle a somehow guessed the password to the energycast site lol. I see whats going in now. I still think the risk for this is not to cut west but might be a sheared out mess....either overhead or south of us. It's both good and bad for obvious reasons. At this point 2" is a win.

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Is there a chance this could turn into a significant icing event for some?

It's on the table as an option, sure...

There are 3 scenarios with this, barring nothing happening at all ( haha). Assuming we avoid the seasonal persistence of "nothing" (isn't the persistence of nothing, something in its self? fascinating...).

Anyway, those would be:

1) couple waves of low pressure get ejected out of the deep layer vortex ball over the GL... They snow light to moderate across a 24 hour period; then as what is ever left of the shredded main trough comes through, it may spin up a bit of coastal.. In this scenario, we'd be talking mainly snow with some ice/PL where the transition is.

2) the high/CAD from the N is shallower; this would provide your icing scenario as it would allow more warm push in critical thickness levels just off the deck. Even in this, the latter period(s) would trend more white as the core of trough remnant pass through.

3) the high/CAD are too strong in which case only light snow occurs NE of ALB-PVD and with some moderate intervals down by your neck of the woods.

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GEFS is a toaster bath but as Tip would say the other globals have a "wintry appeal"

Well the last time the GFS/GEFS were against all the other models at 108h out it did't work out so well for them (2/19 non-phasing storm)....so I guess we have that going for us.

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Well the last time the GFS/GEFS were against all the other models at 108h out it did't work out so well for them (2/19 non-phasing storm)....so I guess we have that going for us.

Indeed. I actually think this has some decent potential especially with a back side inverted trough kind of deal to keep the snow going.

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By the way...the last few cycles of the NAM is better for relaying into the ECM than the GFS solution aloft.

Yep its the handleing of the 50/50 low. EC GGEM UKMET slower more amplified hence stronger high. GFS flatter more progressive hence weaker high. NAM clearly favors the EC.

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Wow...EURO is a really nice hit.  

BTW...good vibes today.  I just got home from work and was greeted with an acceptance letter from Suffolk Law.  99.9 percent sure I'm going there. Cue the lawyer jokes :thumbsup:

congrats bro, good luck! Why does a lawyer take Viagra?, It makes them taller, the little pricks.Feeling this one for some reason, GGEM AND EURO looking similar.

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Frank should post here instead of reading anonomously..this disco he basically lifted from the board lol

WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...

A RATHER COMPLEX SCENARIO UNFOLDING WITH UNSETTLED AND POTENTIALLY

WINTERY WEATHER. THE TIMING/DETAILS ARE HIGHLY UNCERTAIN. THERE

APPEARS TO BE TWO POTENTIAL ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION OVER THIS

TIME...BUT THE MODELS DIFFER SIGNIFICANTLY ON THERMAL

PROFILES/PRECIPITATION TYPE.

THE FIRST ROUND APPEARS TO BE A SOUTHWEST FLOW EVENT ON WEDNESDAY.

THE LATEST GGEM HAS TRENDED TOWARDS THE ECMWF/S DEPICTION OF A

COLDER/SNOWIER SOLUTION. THE GFS/GFS ENSEMBLES APPEAR TO BE MORE OF

AN OUTLIER NOW WITH A WARMER AND WETTER SOLUTION. STILL A LOT OF

TIME TO IRON THINGS OUT...BUT AT THIS POINT LEANING THE FORECAST

MORE TOWARDS THE COLDER GGEM/ECMWF. WHILE WE CERTAINLY CAN/T RULE

OUT THE GFS/S WARMER SOLUTION...THIS POTENTIAL EVENT WILL FEATURE A

HIGH OVER EASTERN CANADA WHICH IS SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE NOT SEEN

MUCH OF THIS WINTER. THAT WOULD FAVOR THE COLDER/SNOWIER MODEL

SOLUTIONS. AGAIN THOUGH ITS STILL 4 DAYS OUT IN THE FUTURE...SO

THERE IS EVEN A LOW PROBABILITY THAT THE MODELS SHIFT THE MAIN AXIS

OF PRECIPITATION TO OUR SOUTHWEST. BASICALLY...WE NEED TO KEEP ALL

OPTIONS OPEN AT THIS POINT BUT HAVE ENOUGH TO RUN WITH LOW END

LIKELY POPS FOR WEDNESDAY.

A SECOND ROUND OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION MAY DEVELOP ON THURSDAY.

THIS WILL DEPEND ON WHERE A SECONDARY COASTAL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM

DEVELOPS...SO WILL CONTINUE WITH CHANCE POPS.

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Frank should post here instead of reading anonomously..this disco he basically lifted from the board lol

WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY...

A RATHER COMPLEX SCENARIO UNFOLDING WITH UNSETTLED AND POTENTIALLY

WINTERY WEATHER. THE TIMING/DETAILS ARE HIGHLY UNCERTAIN. THERE

APPEARS TO BE TWO POTENTIAL ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION OVER THIS

TIME...BUT THE MODELS DIFFER SIGNIFICANTLY ON THERMAL

PROFILES/PRECIPITATION TYPE.

THE FIRST ROUND APPEARS TO BE A SOUTHWEST FLOW EVENT ON WEDNESDAY.

THE LATEST GGEM HAS TRENDED TOWARDS THE ECMWF/S DEPICTION OF A

COLDER/SNOWIER SOLUTION. THE GFS/GFS ENSEMBLES APPEAR TO BE MORE OF

AN OUTLIER NOW WITH A WARMER AND WETTER SOLUTION. STILL A LOT OF

TIME TO IRON THINGS OUT...BUT AT THIS POINT LEANING THE FORECAST

MORE TOWARDS THE COLDER GGEM/ECMWF. WHILE WE CERTAINLY CAN/T RULE

OUT THE GFS/S WARMER SOLUTION...THIS POTENTIAL EVENT WILL FEATURE A

HIGH OVER EASTERN CANADA WHICH IS SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE NOT SEEN

MUCH OF THIS WINTER. THAT WOULD FAVOR THE COLDER/SNOWIER MODEL

SOLUTIONS. AGAIN THOUGH ITS STILL 4 DAYS OUT IN THE FUTURE...SO

THERE IS EVEN A LOW PROBABILITY THAT THE MODELS SHIFT THE MAIN AXIS

OF PRECIPITATION TO OUR SOUTHWEST. BASICALLY...WE NEED TO KEEP ALL

OPTIONS OPEN AT THIS POINT BUT HAVE ENOUGH TO RUN WITH LOW END

LIKELY POPS FOR WEDNESDAY.

A SECOND ROUND OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION MAY DEVELOP ON THURSDAY.

THIS WILL DEPEND ON WHERE A SECONDARY COASTAL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM

DEVELOPS...SO WILL CONTINUE WITH CHANCE POPS.

Frank is one of the good ones there...he's got an account here, but just doesn't post often.

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