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A snippet from the long term disco at IWX from Skipper:

TEMPERED HIGHS SOME BUT ESPECIALLY TEMPERED LOWS TO COME BETTER IN LINE WITH

CLIMATOLOGY. LOWS OF 55F OR HIGHER AT FWA FROM MARCH 14 TO 18 HAVE

ONLY OCCURRED TWICE IN THE LAST 110 YEARS.

My point forecast lows:

Wednesday 55

Thursday 55

Friday 55

Saturday 56

It's just amazing that the lowest predicted high for the next seven days is today at 69.

Yeah the coldest forecast temp from now through early next week is 41 tomorrow night which might be too low in of itself. Our average high is 48...

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I'm an anomalous weather or bust guy and this is pretty heavy stuff

"IT WILL CONTINUE UNSEASONABLY MILD WITH TEMPERATURES GENERALLY IN

THE MID TO UPPER 70S...POSSIBLY FLIRTING WITH 80 A FEW MORE TIMES.

THIS IS SOME 30 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL. HOWEVER...WITH CLOUDINESS...

CHANCE OF SHOWERS...AND POSSIBILITY OF LAKE BREEZES WILL JUST GO

WITH MID 70S FOR NOW. NO END IN SIGHT TO THE MILD PATTERN."

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Looks like an MCC heading this way, if it can be called that. Since it's not severe, I figured discussion should be in this thread.

Those look good for some lightning and heavy downpours! It has been getting darker here.

About 60° now. Had a low of 45° this morning, which is a couple degrees above the normal high!

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First severe tstorm warning of the year for Wisconsin in Milwaukee/Racine right now.

I can hear the thunder off those! About 15 miles away. Starting to rain here. Looks like a rainy afternoon according to Skilling's RPM model.

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KORD   GFSX MOS GUIDANCE   3/12/2012  1200 UTC					  
FHR  24  36| 48  60| 72  84| 96 108|120 132|144 156|168 180|192	
  TUE 13| WED 14| THU 15| FRI 16| SAT 17| SUN 18| MON 19|TUE CLIMO
N/X  45  67| 51  76| 58  72| 55  72| 55  71| 55  70| 56  72| 57 30 47
TMP  46  62| 54  70| 61  66| 58  65| 57  65| 57  64| 58  65| 59	
DPT  41  41| 49  54| 57  58| 54  54| 52  55| 52  52| 53  54| 54	
WND  11   7|  5  14| 10  10|  8   9|  8  16| 12  15| 13  15| 13	
P12  13   1|  3   5| 15  28| 40  32| 33  20| 33  31| 24  16| 20 32 25
P24	  13|	  6|	 31|	 51|	 45|	 36|	 32|	   42
Q12   0   0|  0   0|  0   0|  1   1|  1   0|  3   1|	   |		
Q24	   0|	  0|	  0|	  2|	  1|	  1|	   |		
T12   5   0|  2   8| 32  47| 30  27| 29  14| 21  16| 14  12| 10	
T24		|  2	| 35	| 62	| 44	| 34	| 23	| 20	
PZP   0   0|  0   0|  0   0|  0   0|  0   0|  0   1|  0   1|  2	
PSN   1   0|  3   6|  6   7|  7  10|  9  13| 14  14| 17  20| 16	
PRS   3   2|  4   3|  3   3|  4   2|  3   2|  2   3|  3   3|  4	
TYP   R   R|  R   R|  R   R|  R   R|  R   R|  R   R|  R   R|  R	
SNW	   0|	  0|	  0|	  0|	  0|	  0|	   |	  

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I realize it's probably less than a 50/50 shot at this point...but there's a chance that ORD hits 80 on Wednesday 3/14. If it does, it would be only the 3rd time it has ever been 80 before March 23 (80 on 3/3/1974, 81 on 3/12/1990).

The normal high for 3/14 is 46.

the daily records are great but the prolonged length is what is really impressive...March departures will be huge.

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12z GFS keeps this circus going through at least 3/26. Can't say I'm complaining.

MILWAUKEE       
KMKE   GFSX MOS GUIDANCE   3/12/2012  1200 UTC                       
FHR  24  36| 48  60| 72  84| 96 108|120 132|144 156|168 180|192      
     TUE 13| WED 14| THU 15| FRI 16| SAT 17| SUN 18| MON 19|TUE CLIMO
N/X  42  63| 48  71| 56  69| 53  66| 52  67| 52  66| 53  66| 53 28 43
TMP  43  56| 50  66| 58  63| 54  61| 54  61| 55  60| 55  59| 55      
DPT  36  36| 44  55| 56  55| 51  55| 50  53| 50  50| 50  50| 50      

Wonder how warm it'll be since they trend toward climo, lol.

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It's worth remembering that the GFS is known to be totally wrong a week out. This seems like infinite warmth now but it could change fast. Arctic sea ice has been increasing quite a bit at the pole so maybe some cold air that's building up could still surprise us.

Sure, but the cross model agreement on at least another 7-10 days of well above normal temps is pretty solid right now. Clearly the potential for an abrupt shift and late cold blast remains as long as the cold air remains strong up there...it's just not coming any time soon.

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The buds on many of the trees around here are already pretty big. With the length of the extreme warmth over the next few weeks we'll likely see a premature ejaculation of the leaves/flowers lol. At some point there will be a cold period, so it will be interesting to see how all that plays out with everything leafing out so early.

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The buds on many of the trees around here are already pretty big. With the length of the extreme warmth over the next few weeks we'll likely see a premature ejaculation of the leaves/flowers lol. At some point there will be a cold period, so it will be interesting to see how all that plays out with everything leafing out so early.

very much the same story here

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SREF max temp forecast. Wow.

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That's wild. Looks like a mid-April warmup. Wednesday looks to be the best shot at 70° here. Some of the models show a front moving down Lake Michigan on Thursday and turning winds NE.

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the daily records are great but the prolonged length is what is really impressive...March departures will be huge.

Agree. From March 1-11, ORD is +7.4.

If all goes as planned for the next 7-10 days, they will probably be +12 to +14 for March 1-22.

The all-time warmest March was 48.6F in 1910 and 1945...which is about a +11 departure. So, ORD could come close to that record, as long as it stays decently mild during the last week of March.

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DTX talking possible 80's

MEDIUM RANGE MODELS STILL FORECASTING AMPLIFIED PATTERN FOR THE

WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK...WITH LONGWAVE TROUGH OUT WEST AND

UPPER LEVEL RIDGE BUILDING NEAR THE GREAT LAKES REGION. ALMOST

SUMMER LIKE RIDGE (582-586 DAM AT 500 MB)...AND TEMPS APPROACHING 80

DEGREES IS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION AS WE GET TO TUESDAY AS 1000-500

MB THICKNESSES CLIMB TOWARD 564 DAM. LAKE BREEZES WOULD LIKELY BE

COMING INTO PLAY HOWEVER AND WILL NEED TO REMAIN MORE CONSERVATIVE

THAT FAR OUT...ESPECIALLY WITH THE EUROPEAN PROFILES A BIT COOLER.

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