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TUE 18Z 28-FEB  -0.3	-4.6	1022	  51	 100	0.01	 553	 535	
WED 00Z 29-FEB  -0.5	-4.7	1013	  71	  99	0.05	 550	 539	
WED 06Z 29-FEB  -1.8	-6.3	1006	  84	 100	0.23	 543	 539	
WED 12Z 29-FEB  -2.0	-7.2	1001	  87	  95	0.33	 535	 534	
WED 18Z 29-FEB  -1.8	-8.6	1004	  80	  98	0.11	 534	 531	
THU 00Z 01-MAR  -2.5	-9.8	1009	  82	  75	0.05	 538	 530	
THU 06Z 01-MAR  -6.1	-9.8	1013	  90	  77	0.01	 541	 531

STC
TUE 18Z 28-FEB  -2.4	-6.0	1022	  64	 100	0.04	 552	 534	
WED 00Z 29-FEB  -2.1	-6.7	1014	  79	 100	0.10	 548	 537	
WED 06Z 29-FEB  -2.2	-7.2	1007	  86	  99	0.30	 543	 537	
WED 12Z 29-FEB  -2.9	-7.9	1004	  89	 100	0.48	 535	 532	
WED 18Z 29-FEB  -2.5	-9.8	1007	  79	  97	0.29	 536	 530	
THU 00Z 01-MAR  -3.0   -10.3	1011	  81	  84	0.04	 539	 530	
THU 06Z 01-MAR  -7.4   -10.6	1015	  89	  87	0.01	 542	 530	

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ECMWF ensemble mean is slightly S of the op, but really the differences are tiny. Dealing with a very tricky scenario here as the lead anomaly will need to deepen at the perfect time...and eject at the right latitude or the front lifts farther N, the low tracks farther N as well since warm advective processes will force stronger height falls farther N, and snow switches to sleet/rain farther N. An ideal ejection would force strong enough low level height falls/dynamic induced cooling to occlude quick enough so the warm front doesn't lift as far N.

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MPX unleashes the WSW.

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN

338 AM CST SUN FEB 26 2012

..A FEW INCHES OF SNOW EXPECTED ACROSS THE NORTH TODAY

THEN

SIGNIFICANT WIDESPREAD SNOW POSSIBLE TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY...

.A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF CENTRAL

MINNESOTA UNTIL 6 PM TODAY. THE BEST CHANCE FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW

IS NEAR AND NORTH OF A LINE FROM MORRIS... TO ST. CLOUD... TO MORA

IN MINNESOTA. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS IN THE ADVISORY AREA WILL RANGE

FROM 2 TO 4 INCHES NEAR ALEXANDRIA... LITTLE FALLS AND MORA...

WITH AMOUNTS OF 1 TO 2 INCHES POSSIBLE FROM MORRIS... TO SAINT CLOUD...

TO MILACA. AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL SPREAD LIGHT SNOW ACROSS

WESTERN MINNESOTA THIS MORNING AS IT MOVES INTO THE STATE

FROM THE DAKOTAS. SNOWFALL RATES BETWEEN A HALF AND ONE INCH PER

HOUR WILL BE POSSIBLE AT TIMES THIS MORNING INTO EARLY THIS

AFTERNOON... THEN THE ACTIVITY SHOULD TAPER OFF BY EVENING. GUSTY

WINDS LATE THIS AFTERNOON COULD CAUSE AREAS OF BLOWING SNOW...

FURTHER REDUCING VISIBILITIES.

A WINTER STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR WEST CENTRAL... CENTRAL...

SOUTH CENTRAL... AND EAST CENTRAL MINNESOTA FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON

THROUGH WEDNESDAY. AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IS EXPECTED TO EMERGE

FROM THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES TUESDAY MORNING... AND RAPIDLY INTENSIFY

AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS BY TUESDAY EVENING.

THE STORM WILL THEN SLOW DOWN AS IT MOVES EAST ALONG OR NEAR THE

MINNESOTA/IOWA BORDER TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. SNOWFALL IS

EXPECTED TO SPREAD NORTHEAST INTO THE AREA DURING THE DAY ON

TUESDAY... AND BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH

WEDNESDAY MORNING. SOME SLEET COULD MIX WITH THE SNOW TUESDAY

AFTERNOON AND EVENING ALONG AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM NEW ULM

THROUGH THE SOUTHERN TWIN CITES METRO AREA TO RED WING... WITH RAIN

POSSIBLE FOR A TIME NEAR THE IOWA BORDER. SNOWFALL RATES OF 1-2

INCHES PER HOUR ARE POSSIBLE TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY

MORNING... PARTICULARLY ALONG AND NORTH OF A LINE FROM CANBY

THROUGH THE NORTHERN TWIN CITIES METRO AREA. STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL

AMOUNTS IN EXCESS OF 10 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE IN THE WATCH AREA BY

WEDNESDAY EVENING... WITH LOCAL AMOUNTS WELL IN EXCESS OF A FOOT

NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION. THIS STORM SYSTEM IS STILL SEVERAL DAYS

AWAY... AND THE EXACT TRACK IT WILL TAKE IS NOT YET CERTAIN.

IF THE STORM TRACKS FARTHER NORTH... THEN A GREATER AMOUNT OF

SLEET AND/OR RAIN WILL BE POSSIBLE. SHOULD THE STORM TAKE A MORE

SOUTHERN TRACK... THEN THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS WOULD

SHIFT INTO THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA.

MNZ041>045-047>050-055-261745-

/O.NEW.KMPX.WS.A.0002.120228T1800Z-120301T0000Z/

/O.EXT.KMPX.WW.Y.0005.000000T0000Z-120227T0000Z/

DOUGLAS-TODD-MORRISON-MILLE LACS-KANABEC-STEVENS-POPE-STEARNS-

BENTON-SWIFT-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ALEXANDRIA...LONG PRAIRIE...

LITTLE FALLS...PRINCETON...MORA...MORRIS...GLENWOOD...ST. CLOUD...

FOLEY...BENSON

338 AM CST SUN FEB 26 2012

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 PM CST THIS

EVENING...

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH

WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN HAS ISSUED

A WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON

THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

* TIMING...PERIODS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED THIS MORNING THROUGH THIS

AFTERNOON. THE MAJORITY OF THE SNOW IS EXPECTED TO TAPER OFF BY

EVENING... ALTHOUGH SOME LIGHT SNOW AND FLURRIES MAY PERSIST

INTO THE EVENING. A MORE SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF SNOW IS POSSIBLE

FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY AS ANOTHER STORM SYSTEM

MOVES INTO THE AREA.

* MAIN IMPACT...SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF ONE TO FOUR INCHES ARE

EXPECTED TODAY. SNOWFALL AMOUNTS IN EXCESS OF TEN INCHES ARE

POSSIBLE TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY.

* OTHER IMPACTS...ROADWAYS MAY BECOME HAZARDOUS TODAY...

ESPECIALLY SECONDARY ROADS... UNTREATED ROADS... AND BRIDGES.

WINDS WILL INCREASE IN WESTERN MINNESOTA THIS AFTERNOON. THIS

MAY CAUSE BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTIONS TO

TRAVEL MAY OCCUR TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY SHOULD WIDESPREAD HEAVY

SNOW OCCUR THEN.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW WILL

CAUSE PRIMARILY TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR SNOW COVERED

ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE DRIVING.

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT

SNOW ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE

LATEST FORECASTS.

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BIS & FGF have issued Blizzard Watches for part of their CWA

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND FORKS ND

309 PM CST SUN FEB 26 201

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN GRAND FORKS HAS ISSUED A BLIZZARD

WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH WEDNESDAY

AFTERNOON.

MNZ001>003-NDZ024-026>030-038-039-292115-

/O.NEW.KFGF.BZ.A.0001.120228T1200Z-120301T0000Z/

/O.CON.KFGF.WS.W.0001.000000T0000Z-120227T0900Z/

WEST POLK-NORMAN-CLAY-EDDY-NELSON-GRAND FORKS-GRIGGS-STEELE-

TRAILL-BARNES-CASS-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CROOKSTON...EAST GRAND FORKS...

HALSTAD...MOORHEAD...NEW ROCKFORD...LAKOTA...GRAND FORKS...

COOPERSTOWN...FINLEY...MAYVILLE...VALLEY CITY...FARGO

...BLIZZARD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH

WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON...

* THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM SHOULD BEGIN TO AFFECT EAST CENTRAL NORTH

DAKOTA ON TUESDAY MORNING.

* FALLING AND BLOWING SNOW COULD RESULT IN NEAR ZERO VISIBILITY AT

TIMES IN OPEN COUNTRY WITH WIND GUSTS TO 40 MPH.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF OVER A FOOT ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE

INTERSTATE 94 CORRIDOR TAPERING TO AROUND 6 INCHES ALONG THE

HIGHWAY 2 CORRIDOR.

* THIS APPEARS TO BE THE STRONGEST STORM SO FAR THIS WINTER SO

MAKE PLANS NOW.

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MPX has upgraded to a Blizzard Watch for their western coverage area.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN

322 PM CST SUN FEB 26 2012

MNZ041-042-047-048-054>056-064-270530-

/O.CAN.KMPX.WS.A.0002.120228T1800Z-120301T0000Z/

/O.NEW.KMPX.BZ.A.0001.120228T1800Z-120301T0000Z/

DOUGLAS-TODD-STEVENS-POPE-LAC QUI PARLE-SWIFT-CHIPPEWA-

YELLOW MEDICINE-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ALEXANDRIA...LONG PRAIRIE...MORRIS...

GLENWOOD...MADISON...BENSON...MONTEVIDEO...GRANITE FALLS

322 PM CST SUN FEB 26 2012

...BLIZZARD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH

WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON...

...WINTER STORM WATCH IS CANCELLED...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN HAS ISSUED

A BLIZZARD WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON

THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. THE WINTER STORM WATCH HAS BEEN

CANCELLED.

* TIMING...HEAVY SNOW AND STRONG WINDS ARE POSSIBLE FROM TUESDAY

AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY AS A POTENT STORM SYSTEM MOVES INTO

THE AREA.

* WINDS/VISIBILITY...SUSTAINED WINDS OF 25 TO 35 MPH MAY OCCUR ALONG

WITH VISIBILITIES OF A QUARTER MILE OR LESS.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...SNOWFALL AMOUNTS OF A FOOT OR MORE ARE

POSSIBLE.

* OTHER IMPACTS...SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTIONS TO TRAVEL MAY OCCUR

TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS POSSIBLE.

SIGNIFICANT BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW MAY BRING TRAVEL TO A HALT.

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Here is our version of the WSW. We are on the edge.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTH PLATTE NE

320 PM CST SUN FEB 26 2012

..POTENTIAL WINTER STORM TO IMPACT THE AREA

.A MIX OF RAIN AND FREEZING RAIN EARLY TUESDAY MORNING WILL

CHANGE TO ALL SNOW DURING THE DAY TUESDAY ACROSS NORTHWEST

NEBRASKA. FURTHER EAST...ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL NEBRASKA...RAIN

OR FREEZING RAIN WILL CHANGE TO SNOW TUESDAY NIGHT. STRONG NORTH

WINDS WILL DEVELOP FROM WEST TO EAST DURING THE DAY

TUESDAY...WHICH WILL CREATE AREAS OF BLOWING SNOW AND REDUCED

VISIBILITY.

NEZ004>006-008-094-271000-

/O.NEW.KLBF.WS.A.0002.120228T1200Z-120229T1200Z/

SHERIDAN-EASTERN CHERRY-KEYA PAHA-BROWN-WESTERN CHERRY-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...GORDON...RUSHVILLE...VALENTINE...

SPRINGVIEW...AINSWORTH...CODY...MERRIMAN...KILGORE

320 PM CST SUN FEB 26 2012 /220 PM MST SUN FEB 26 2012/

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE

TUESDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORTH PLATTE HAS ISSUED A WINTER

STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH

LATE TUESDAY NIGHT.

* TIMING...SNOW OR RAIN WILL BEGIN TUESDAY MORNING CHANGING TO ALL

SNOW BY AFTERNOON. SNOW WILL CONTINUE INTO TUESDAY NIGHT...WITH

AREAS OF BLOWING SNOW POSSIBLE AS STRONG NORTH WINDS DEVELOP.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...4 TO 8 INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATION IS

POSSIBLE...WITH THE HIGHEST ACCUMULATIONS EXPECTED NEAR THE

SOUTH DAKOTA BORDER.

* WIND...NORTH WIND GUSTS UP TO 50 MPH...MAY CAUSE SIGNIFICANT

BLOWING SNOW WITH NEAR WHITEOUT CONDITIONS POSSIBLE IN SOME

AREAS.

* IMPACTS...TRAVEL MAY BECOME QUITE DIFFICULT AS SNOW AND BLOWING

SNOW CREATE HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT

SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.

CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

NEZ007-009-010-271000-

/O.NEW.KLBF.WS.A.0002.120229T0000Z-120229T1800Z/

BOYD-ROCK-HOLT-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...SPENCER...BASSETT...ONEILL

320 PM CST SUN FEB 26 2012

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY EVENING THROUGH

WEDNESDAY MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORTH PLATTE HAS ISSUED A WINTER

STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY EVENING THROUGH

WEDNESDAY MORNING.

* TIMING...RAIN WILL CHANGE TO SNOW TUESDAY EVENING...AND CONTINUE

THROUGH THE NIGHT. AREAS OF BLOWING SNOW ARE POSSIBLE AS STRONG

NORTH WINDS DEVELOP.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...2 TO 6 INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATION IS

POSSIBLE...WITH THE HIGHEST ACCUMULATIONS EXPECTED NEAR THE

SOUTH DAKOTA BORDER.

* WIND...NORTH WIND GUSTS UP TO 55 MPH...MAY CAUSE SIGNIFICANT

BLOWING SNOW WITH NEAR WHITEOUT CONDITIONS POSSIBLE IN SOME

AREAS.

* IMPACTS...TRAVEL MAY BECOME QUITE DIFFICULT AS SNOW AND BLOWING

SNOW CREATE HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT

SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.

CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

TAYLOR/AHSENMACHER

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so far so good.

http://www.crh.noaa....ry.php?site=fsd

still until the other computer models shift south I'll assume that I'm going to get 4 inches of snow and a bunch of sleet and freezing rain. I live by the letter 'n' in 8 to 16 inches.

You are in transition zone, no doubt. I am not as convinced this system is going to "bomb" out and deepen quite as fast as we originally thought it may...it is lacking the cold air across the cold sector. A couple days ago 850 t's were progged to be -16C...now we are looking at -7C. Not as much potential energy...and I think that warm air will wrap into the system across your area. A lot of sleet possible with a change over to snow late. Watch for S trends with the surface low...that is what you would want for all snow. Either way going to be an exciting storm.

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looking at the 00Z models now, talk about a difference for the twin cities. the NAM is going mainly snow, risk sleet. the GFS making it warm enough for freezing rain and even regular rain for a time. wonder what the GFS found to make it that warm...

A couple things...big downtrend in how much cold air this first system advected southward behind it. Also, guidance, over the past 4 days, have slowed the ejection down...so, there is a longer period of southward advection...scouring out what cold air there is across the plains...so the front lifts farther N and the low tracks farther N as well. The biggie is the less cold air means less potential energy...so the system doesn't bomb out and stall...and there is less "dynamic" induced cooling via low level mass ascent/convergence since deepening is slower...so low level thermals are a tad warmer. It is an additive effect...also feedback effect here.

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Quite honestly, if you want to pin this down to "why" the changes, it mostly comes down to one thing...lack of cold air within the CCB. Less cold air reduces potential energy which reduces deepening rate/strength. This eventually feeds back to many other things including track, low level thermals and ptypes, etc.

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Quite honestly, if you want to pin this down to "why" the changes, it mostly comes down to one thing...lack of cold air within the CCB. Less cold air reduces potential energy which reduces deepening rate/strength. This eventually feeds back to many other things including track, low level thermals and ptypes, etc.

most definitely. and let's face it, there hasn't been a real deep cPk or cP airmass over the midwest this winter to date.

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most definitely. and let's face it, there hasn't been a real deep cPk or cP airmass over the midwest this winter to date.

Total agreement there. We only had one "real" arctic dump back in January with the classic shallow but extreme cold air mass, otherwise it has been junk. This storm just has no cold air to work with. Nonetheless, it is still highly impressive, lol, it just seems like a minor letdown because it has huge potential.

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Total agreement there. We only had one "real" arctic dump back in January with the classic shallow but extreme cold air mass, otherwise it has been junk. This storm just has no cold air to work with. Nonetheless, it is still highly impressive, lol, it just seems like a minor letdown because it has huge potential.

agreed. this is no storm to mess with, and we have more another 24-36 hours before we really call blowtorch for southern MN. but the wind potential is still there, and whoever gets the big snow will also have blowing/drifting concerns and near whiteouts.

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