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Was just checking out some of the traffic cameras in the region. Looks like it's snowing pretty good in NE Cuyahoga right now. Bare ground for the most part south of the turnpike (mostly grass showing). The secondary snowbelt must be sitting on less than an inch of snow this month! Unreal.

Yeah, from what I can tell my house in Reminderville has probably seen 0.5"-1" out of the deal...but I did record 0.7" there in the first few days of the month.

It will be interesting to see if I can squeak past Reminderville's total down here over the next three days with a couple chances for snow. I doubt it but you never know.

 

Edit: Quite a difference across the board for snow on the ground between the lakeshore and areas just a few miles inland:

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Can't wait to see the totals out of Euclid and points NE from last night. Haven't heard from NEOH lately, he probably fared well from the band the night before.

 

The west and south sides of the region have been more or less snowless this entire event/month. I can't believe that this winter is less snowy than last winter. With CLE at 17" for the year, they'd need 51" more the rest of the season to break even. I just can't see that happening with the lake already frozen over from the Erie Islands eastward and that will be expanding daily. It will take a couple March 2008 bombs to creep this side of town closer to normal.

Surprised by the totals last night. Most I saw was 6". Thought someone would have gotten more, but reports were kinda thin so maybe someone eeked out 8" in lake or geagua.

Yea this winter is far worse snowfall wise for me than last year. Unfortunately next weeks torch will probably keep that ice cover in check and allow for another LES event or two.

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Was just checking out some of the traffic cameras in the region. Looks like it's snowing pretty good in NE Cuyahoga right now. Bare ground for the most part south of the turnpike (mostly grass showing). The secondary snowbelt must be sitting on less than an inch of snow this month! Unreal.

Went snow chasing yesterday and there was bare ground until I got north of bainbridge. From there it increased at a steady rate until I stopped in Russell Center where they had about 3.5" on the ground.Really anywhere south of solon/bainbridge is bare right now. I'm in Streetsboro and have had 0.9" for the month. Just incredibly pathetic for the month of january and unreal like you said. Should at least get an inch or 2 on friday though.

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For all the media attention this snow is getting, there is a legitimate chance CLE has a top ten least snowiest January. 3.9" would be 10th place which allows for a tad over 2" to fall from the Friday event. Regardless, I seriously doubt CLE gets more than 6" the last week of the month. Realistically CLE ends January at 4.5".

As for Lake Erie, I'm currently staring at a thin layer of ice as far as the eye can see. Yesterday only the inner harbor was frozen a couple hundred yards out. I'm guessing the ice extends at least 5 miles out now.

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Yeah, from what I can tell my house in Reminderville has probably seen 0.5"-1" out of the deal...but I did record 0.7" there in the first few days of the month.

It will be interesting to see if I can squeak past Reminderville's total down here over the next three days with a couple chances for snow. I doubt it but you never know.

 

Edit: Quite a difference across the board for snow on the ground between the lakeshore and areas just a few miles inland:

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That map illustrates nicely the sharp cutoff with this event. Had to be at or north of orange/chagrin falls/south russell to even really get the grass completely covered. Am kind of surprised by the low amounts by the lake in Lake county given the nice banding they had on and off the past few days.

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Can't wait to see the totals out of Euclid and points NE from last night. Haven't heard from NEOH lately, he probably fared well from the band the night before.

 

The west and south sides of the region have been more or less snowless this entire event/month. I can't believe that this winter is less snowy than last winter. With CLE at 17" for the year, they'd need 51" more the rest of the season to break even. I just can't see that happening with the lake already frozen over from the Erie Islands eastward and that will be expanding daily. It will take a couple March 2008 bombs to creep this side of town closer to normal.

 

Just got out of the hospital... appendicitis. So I had to have surgery and missed most of this event. I was at UH downtown on Monday and was awake most of the night watching the snow fall. It was impressive to watch the squalls roll in on the 9th floor. It looks like 6-7" fell from the band on Monday night. Picked around 2" more last night. I'm guessing the willoughby hills out through Kirtland area has been the jackpot for this event.

 

Hoping we see one last blast of snow tonight as the shortwave comes through. Really suprised that the lake has stayed open this long. Thankfully the winds have been strong enough to keep the lake churning.

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Just got out of the hospital... appendicitis. So I had to have surgery and missed most of this event. I was at UH downtown on Monday and was awake most of the night watching the snow fall. It was impressive to watch the squalls roll in on the 9th floor. It looks like 6-7" fell from the band on Monday night. Picked around 2" more last night. I'm guessing the willoughby hills out through Kirtland area has been the jackpot for this event.

Hoping we see one last blast of snow tonight as the shortwave comes through. Really suprised that the lake has stayed open this long. Thankfully the winds have been strong enough to keep the lake churning.

Not fun. I actually just had appendicitis too. Last March I went into the hospital with snow on the ground and came out after surgery to 70 degree temps and the start of the big March torch. So I barely got to enjoy all the heat because I was recovering. Hopefully you feel better soon and they give you enough pain pills! Maybe some more snow for you guys this week, but I won't hold my breath on this side of town.

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Not fun. I actually just had appendicitis too. Last March I went into the hospital with snow on the ground and came out after surgery to 70 degree temps and the start of the big March torch. So I barely got to enjoy all the heat because I was recovering. Hopefully you feel better soon and they give you enough pain pills! Maybe some more snow for you guys this week, but I won't hold my breath on this side of town.

Thanks. Yeah, no fun at all. I've got plenty of pain pills so all is good.

 

It was great to come home and see the snow on the ground again... I was expecting more but oh well. One thing that surpised me is the density of the snow. It's definitely not fluff... more like dense flour. How much did you get? By the UH main campus they seemed to have 4-5".

 

Looks like winds come around to the NW then Northerly overnight. I wonder if we don't see a 6-8 hour window of heavier snow. Even though the fetch will be shorter the water is also "warmer" which should help. For some reason the last round of LES always seems to be the best, and a surprise... might be the pain pills talking.

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Thanks. Yeah, no fun at all. I've got plenty of pain pills so all is good.

 

It was great to come home and see the snow on the ground again... I was expecting more but oh well. One thing that surpised me is the density of the snow. It's definitely not fluff... more like dense flour. How much did you get? By the UH main campus they seemed to have 4-5".

 

Looks like winds come around to the NW then Northerly overnight. I wonder if we don't see a 6-8 hour window of heavier snow. Even though the fetch will be shorter the water is also "warmer" which should help. For some reason the last round of LES always seems to be the best, and a surprise... might be the pain pills talking.

 :lol:

 

Hopefully you'll be back on your feet soon...I had my appendix out in August 2011 and worked a double the next day, but that certainly isn't recommended. That surgery is a lot smaller and easier to recover from today than it used to be, so hopefully you'll be all good (even if a little sore) by the weekend.

I certainly can see a band of moderate to heavy snow whipping back southwest pretty quickly late this evening...I'm not sure if it will be enough to drop more than 1-3" across the east side and secondary Snowbelt as well before weaker NW-SE oriented multi-bands take over.

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Thanks. Yeah, no fun at all. I've got plenty of pain pills so all is good.

It was great to come home and see the snow on the ground again... I was expecting more but oh well. One thing that surpised me is the density of the snow. It's definitely not fluff... more like dense flour. How much did you get? By the UH main campus they seemed to have 4-5".

Looks like winds come around to the NW then Northerly overnight. I wonder if we don't see a 6-8 hour window of heavier snow. Even though the fetch will be shorter the water is also "warmer" which should help. For some reason the last round of LES always seems to be the best, and a surprise... might be the pain pills talking.

Yep. I noticed the same, it wasn't typical lake fluff at all. Had this been typical fluff, totals easily would have been at least double. My storm total sits at a whopping 3" with 2" on the ground, but it's a cold dense packed powder snow.

I was fortunate to catch the middle of the night whiteout with two rumbles of thunder, but other than that this was a non event here. I'm sure the folks in Hinckley and Brecksville have almost nothing, and virtually nothing for the month.

I'll be amazed if CLE out snows last winter.

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 :lol:

 

Hopefully you'll be back on your feet soon...I had my appendix out in August 2011 and worked a double the next day, but that certainly isn't recommended. That surgery is a lot smaller and easier to recover from today than it used to be, so hopefully you'll be all good (even if a little sore) by the weekend.

I certainly can see a band of moderate to heavy snow whipping back southwest pretty quickly late this evening...I'm not sure if it will be enough to drop more than 1-3" across the east side and secondary Snowbelt as well before weaker NW-SE oriented multi-bands take over.

Lol. You must be a quick healer... Or a horse. I can barely pick my son up. But I'm feeling better already. Hoping for a nice burst of snow tonight. I'm thinking 2-4 here on the east side... A complete guess but these situations typically deliver.
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Lol. You must be a quick healer... Or a horse. I can barely pick my son up. But I'm feeling better already. Hoping for a nice burst of snow tonight. I'm thinking 2-4 here on the east side... A complete guess but these situations typically deliver.

Pain killers helped...

Perhaps I'm pulling a CLE and going a bit bearish after my call for the first few days of the event was way too aggressive on the southern and western edges of things. The winds are going to veer NW to even NNW really quickly so any convergence band that sets up will probably push south in a hurry.

After that most models actually show the winds going NNE by around 12z Thursday so it will be interesting to see what happens...inversions will be very high and the atmosphere will be fairly moist through tomorrow morning so we'll see how intense the multi-bands that setup are...they will certainly be moving around a quite a bit too which may hold accums in check. I could perhaps see a 4" lolipop somewhere on the east side or even in the secondary Snowbelt but I'm leaning towards a general 1-3"...which is nothing to scoff at if most of it falls over a few hours.

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The satellite pictures tomorrow should be telling if we can get some breaks in the clouds. When I left work today I could not see any open water in any direction. With winds calming down a bit, I expect that the ice cover will rapidly expand tonight. It should reach its peak by Sunday night and then start to break up. It's hard to say how much damage to the lake effect season has been done, but clearly doesn't bode well for the southern / western areas of the secondary snow belt. 

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Just got out of the hospital... appendicitis. So I had to have surgery and missed most of this event. I was at UH downtown on Monday and was awake most of the night watching the snow fall. It was impressive to watch the squalls roll in on the 9th floor. It looks like 6-7" fell from the band on Monday night. Picked around 2" more last night. I'm guessing the willoughby hills out through Kirtland area has been the jackpot for this event.

 

Hoping we see one last blast of snow tonight as the shortwave comes through. Really suprised that the lake has stayed open this long. Thankfully the winds have been strong enough to keep the lake churning.

Hope you feel better soon. At least you got some snow to track and watch.

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Hope you feel better soon. At least you got some snow to track and watch.

Thanks. Yep, it will be nice to sit home and track the snow. Nice to see the radar is filling in over the lake. It will be interesting to see if the increase in moisture can offset the shorter fetch.

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The satellite pictures tomorrow should be telling if we can get some breaks in the clouds. When I left work today I could not see any open water in any direction. With winds calming down a bit, I expect that the ice cover will rapidly expand tonight. It should reach its peak by Sunday night and then start to break up. It's hard to say how much damage to the lake effect season has been done, but clearly doesn't bode well for the southern / western areas of the secondary snow belt. 

 

Ahhh... my least favorite part of the winter. Always sucks when the lake freezes. I'm feeling pretty good about a nice burst of snow tonight. Any ice on the central basin will be pushed around quite easily. Once winds turn northerly tonight the west side should see heavier snows.

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The satellite pictures tomorrow should be telling if we can get some breaks in the clouds. When I left work today I could not see any open water in any direction. With winds calming down a bit, I expect that the ice cover will rapidly expand tonight. It should reach its peak by Sunday night and then start to break up. It's hard to say how much damage to the lake effect season has been done, but clearly doesn't bode well for the southern / western areas of the secondary snow belt. 

I personally do not think that the ice will take a huge toll on the lake effect considering the torch coming next week. Should break up a majority of the ice, but I could be wrong. Areas to the east of Cleveland in the secondary belt probably won't see that much of an effect from the ice esp. if the winds are out of the NW, but areas west would probably see a decent decrease in moisture like you said.

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Thanks. Yep, it will be nice to sit home and track the snow. Nice to see the radar is filling in over the lake. It will be interesting to see if the increase in moisture can offset the shorter fetch.

Yea I'm pretted excited too. Might actually get some snow down here in Streetsboro tonight. Missed out on practically the entire event so far. Looks like winds will shift after midnight and bring a nice area of convergence in as they switch to NW. Moisture looks good up to 700 mb so I'm hopeful we can off set the fetch. With a weak area of low pressure dropping south along with some PVA around the midnight timeframe I think we should get a decent flare up. Directional shear doesn't look to bad either staying below 30 degrees. But things quickly dry up near noon tommorow and ridging works in so it will be a short 12 hr maybe 18hr (in the northern primary) event. I'm hopeful that with a decent NW wind the bands will penetrate pretty far south into the northern secondary belt. My thinking is 3-5 northern primary, 2-4 rest of primary belt, and 1-3 northern secondary

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Just got out of the hospital... appendicitis. So I had to have surgery and missed most of this event. I was at UH downtown on Monday and was awake most of the night watching the snow fall. It was impressive to watch the squalls roll in on the 9th floor. It looks like 6-7" fell from the band on Monday night. Picked around 2" more last night. I'm guessing the willoughby hills out through Kirtland area has been the jackpot for this event.

 

Hoping we see one last blast of snow tonight as the shortwave comes through. Really suprised that the lake has stayed open this long. Thankfully the winds have been strong enough to keep the lake churning.

 

 

Glad to see ya back man, hope you get to feeling better! 

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Just eyeballing but it looks like a little over 2 inches fell last night. Radar is not looking great. Was thinking a huron fetch would set up with Northerly winds but the winds seem to have come around all the way to the NE.

About 1.5 " here. Not expecting much more as dry air aloft is rapidly moving in and best convergence is gone.Asht. county is about the only area seeing any action right now

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