OHweather Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 with models coming in jucier with the synoptic snow for tonight into tmr morning amounts could get close or possibly meet the 24 hour advisory criteria of 6-8" in the snowbelt. Sent from my pantech so spelling isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 with models coming in jucier with the synoptic snow for tonight into tmr morning amounts could get close or possibly meet the 24 hour advisory criteria of 6-8" in the snowbelt. Sent from my pantech so spelling isn't good. Good trends in the models. This snowfall might beat the "blizzard". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Looks like a nice little storm / lake effect for this weekend. Nam shows about .50" liquid. Could this storm beat our "blizzard" (as NEOH mentioned above)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 There are some pretty heavy snow bands moving in our general direction. I'm still liking a general 2-3" call across the area with lollipops to 4" where any heavier bands can set up with the synoptic snow. Lake effect snow setup looks unchanged with winds coming around to the NW by mid to late afternoon tomorrow with 850mb temps falling to -10 or so with moderately high inversions and good moisture below the inversion. Still liking 2-4" with that in the primary Snowbelt and 1-3" in the secondary Snowbelt, especially in the higher elevations, before tapering off Sunday morning. The Euro indicates convergence flaring up Sunday as the ridging pushes winds over land to the SW, so maybe there will be some snow showers continuing through the day where this occurs, but moisture and inversions will not be supportive of heavy snow by that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 There are some pretty heavy snow bands moving in our general direction. I'm still liking a general 2-3" call across the area with lollipops to 4" where any heavier bands can set up with the synoptic snow. Lake effect snow setup looks unchanged with winds coming around to the NW by mid to late afternoon tomorrow with 850mb temps falling to -10 or so with moderately high inversions and good moisture below the inversion. Still liking 2-4" with that in the primary Snowbelt and 1-3" in the secondary Snowbelt, especially in the higher elevations, before tapering off Sunday morning. The Euro indicates convergence flaring up Sunday as the ridging pushes winds over land to the SW, so maybe there will be some snow showers continuing through the day where this occurs, but moisture and inversions will not be supportive of heavy snow by that time. Look like I picked up an inch or so overnight. Snow hole is sitting over cuyahoga county right now. Heavy band is over the lake... congrats fish. Hopefully that band wil swing around as the low passes by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Look like I picked up an inch or so overnight. Snow hole is sitting over cuyahoga county right now. Heavy band is over the lake... congrats fish. Hopefully that band wil swing around as the low passes by. Yep...looks like 20-30 dBZ over much of the county now. Most areas shouldn't have a major problem reaching at least 2" from the synoptic side of things. Lake effect still looks on track for the primary and secondary belts with a light but moist NW flow with a shortwave rotating through this evening. Edit: Findlay and Toledo still reporting visibilities of 1.75-2.5 miles as of 8am despite the lack-luster look on radar so we still have a few hours of light to occasionally moderate synoptic snow to go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Yep...looks like 20-30 dBZ over much of the county now. Most areas shouldn't have a major problem reaching at least 2" from the synoptic side of things. Lake effect still looks on track for the primary and secondary belts with a light but moist NW flow with a shortwave rotating through this evening. Edit: Findlay and Toledo still reporting visibilities of 1.75-2.5 miles as of 8am despite the lack-luster look on radar so we still have a few hours of light to occasionally moderate synoptic snow to go through. My eyeball estimate was wrong this morning... we had just under 2 inches... and still snowing solidy now. Flake size has increased in the heavier returns. I like the look of the radar right now. Looks like it might snow light to moderately for the next few hours as wind come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Well, the snow dried up quickly. Currently at 3", but it is still snowing lightly. Not sure what to think of the LES tonight. 1-3" maybe. BUF meso model shows very little in the way of precip but it may have been an older model run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Left home at 8am this morning with 1.9" of new snow. Family member measured a storm total from the synoptic snow of 2.8" at noon today. Have been seeing nice steady light to moderate snow since about 4PM here from the weak shortwave and now lake effect for 2.5" additional, for a storm total thus far of 5.3" since the wee hours of the morning. It looks like the snow showers are on a diminishing trend now, however there will be enough low level moisture and sufficient delta-t's to keep scattered generally light snows going through morning. We may see a flare up again from like 7-11am as moisture from Lake Michigan seeds snow showers and as ridging noses in and potentially enhances convergence somewhere south of the lake-shore for a few hours. Either way looks like 3" was the magic number this morning give or take half an inch or so, with the Snowbelt seeing 2-3" more tonight. It would not surprise me if some areas in northern Geauga County make out with 4-5" tonight total given they have been sitting under some heavier echoes off and on. It generally looks like storm totals of 3-5" across much of the area with 5-8" across the Snowbelt. While certainly near or even meeting the 24 hour advisory criteria of 6" in the belt, for the most part roads have been OK even if a little slick at times, so I won't crucify CLE for not issuing the advisories. What I do find funny however is there has been more discussion in the AFD's over the past couple days over why advisories WON'T be needed (for what ended up being advisory criteria in parts of the Snowbelt) than there was over headlines heading into the big storm on Boxing Day, which culminated in a blizzard warning being issued for the city of Cleveland. After this snow, it looks like we will see a couple shots of over running snow Monday-Tuesday and we could make out with a few inches from that as well if it works out, although the trend certainly is for that system to be suppressed with most of the snow staying to our south. Looks like a marginal and relatively short duration lake effect event Tuesday afternoon-night to watch for. After that the pattern looks like it might get pretty boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 Good to see everyone back home getting nice snow. I spent the day yesterday all over the Tug Hill Plateau. Needless to say that was the deepest snow I've ever seen for a non mountain area. Walking in snow that comes up past your stomach is incredible. It has definitely jaded me for snow for the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Nice to wake up and see the snow still flying. Really wasn't expecting it. Haven't gone out to measure but it looks like another 3" or so. Trent - I've never been to the tughill but its on my list of places to go. Enjoy the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBlizzard Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Good to see everyone back home getting nice snow. I spent the day yesterday all over the Tug Hill Plateau. Needless to say that was the deepest snow I've ever seen for a non mountain area. Walking in snow that comes up past your stomach is incredible. It has definitely jaded me for snow for the rest of the year. hey do you have a pic or two you could take and post on here. I would love to see a few pictures from up there. Always wanted to go up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL510 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Not sure how much has fallen in Chagrin for the event, but in the last 20 hours we've picked up over 4" additional. Looks beautiful out there: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL510 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I took this picture Friday afternoon looking west towards Wooster. The low level moist air trapped by inversion is visible near the snow covered ground. This feature seems to be semi permanent in the Mid West in the wintertime . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Nice spread the wealth light lake effect event. Too bad winds are backing and pushing the band to the NE. No complaints though... snow is knee deep if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I took this picture Friday afternoon looking west towards Wooster. The low level moist air trapped by inversion is visible near the snow covered ground. This feature seems to be semi permanent in the Mid West in the wintertime Nice pic. Any chance we can get you to make runs over the lake to monitor ice cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Not sure how much has fallen in Chagrin for the event, but in the last 20 hours we've picked up over 4" additional. Looks beautiful out there: I was over by Chagrin Falls. I think we got 2" from the synoptic storm, and then about 1" of snow came with the lake effect before I left. Then I drove back to Toledo, and the light lake effect snow continued all the way over to Sandusky. It was a very slippery day to be out there. I found a lot of little areas of thin, slippery snow on the road. Other times roads were just wet. The only dry roads were within several miles of Toledo. Then, of course, small roads around Toledo still had some slush from the snow earlier in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Looks good for a widespread 1-3" of snow across northern Ohio from tonight through tomorrow with maybe some lake effect lingering into Wednesday, and it will be cold through the weekend. Other then that, medium range looks quite boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Looks good for a widespread 1-3" of snow across northern Ohio from tonight through tomorrow with maybe some lake effect lingering into Wednesday, and it will be cold through the weekend. Other then that, medium range looks quite boring. We've had pretty nice stretch of snowfall. Another 1-3" wll be nice going into a boring stretch. So much for the arctic outbreak. Long range does not look pretty. The ground must still be warm as the snow is slushy near the bottom... and the depth is down to 9" or 10" even though we've had much more snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBlizzard Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 coming down nicely right now. look to have close to an inch already. it would be nice to squeeze out 2-4 since this looks like the last decent snow before the torch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBlizzard Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 hey what currently is everyones snowdepth at their locale? seen some numbers on online that seem a bit high and just wanted to cross reference with anyone willing to share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Snow is coming down nicely right now. Looks like a steady band has set up near the lakeshore. Based on the long term models, I feel like this is the last of the snow for awhile... hopefully we'll see some changes in the long range pattern. But we've had a pretty decent run the past 2 weeks. Happy New Year to all. It's a blast enjoying these winter months with everyone on here. Let's hope there's a ton of more winter to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 hey what currently is everyones snowdepth at their locale? seen some numbers on online that seem a bit high and just wanted to cross reference with anyone willing to share 8-11" IMBY as of this evening. Seems like the snow is melting from the bottom up given the slush beneath the snow. Today's temps didn't help. The ground is definitely still warm. It's a dense snowpack given how much snow we've had so I don't see it compacting that much over the next few days. Throw a few more inches on top tonight/tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL510 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 The CAK thermometer failed high after 23 z tonight. I would have thought the observer wouldn't let such inaccurate data through. KCAK 010051Z 24011KT 3SM -SN OVC007 06/M02 A2999 RMK AO2 SLP167 P0000 T00561022KCAK 312351Z 23012KT 3SM -SN BKN006 OVC011 05/M02 A2999 RMK AO2 SLP168 931012 4/007 8/8// P0001 60012 T00501022 10050 21011 58003KCAK 312339Z 22014KT 3SM -SN BKN006 OVC011 05/M02 A3000 RMK AO2 P0001KCAK 312251Z 22014KT 1/2SM SN BKN003 OVC011 M01/M02 A3000 RMK AO2 SLP176 P0005 T10111022 RVRNOKCAK 312151Z 23012G18KT 1/2SM SN BKN003 OVC011 M01/M02 A3000 RMK AO2 SLP176 P0005 T10111022 RVRNO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL510 Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 hey what currently is everyones snowdepth at their locale? seen some numbers on online that seem a bit high and just wanted to cross reference with anyone willing to share 11" in my backyard in Chagrin Falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 It's unfortunate that we couldn't have had a few days of cold and clear to freeze the ground a bit before the snow. Looks like a quiet stretch ahead, which will let the snow departures build back up. Amazingly December ended up a tad above normal for snow with much above normal temps. 2012 also ended up as 9th wettest at CLE. That's pretty impressive and would be comparable to some site last winter having a top ten snowiest year. We lucked out with some decent t-storms in the summer months that never really let us rack up significant negative departures like the rest of the country. Of course Sandy put us over the top in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Almost 2" more yesterday evening. A very productive last 10 days of December for sure. Now to torch until just after I relocate out of LES country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Yeah... its been a good 10 days. Better than all of last winter combined. Don't worry about missing out on LES... I'm sure the western basin will freeze just in time for an ideal LES set up. Temps were in the single digits out west last night so I'm sure ice is expanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="NEOH" data-cid="1977063" data-time="1357137991"><p> Yeah... its been a good 10 days. Better than all of last winter combined. <br /> <br /> Don't worry about missing out on LES... I'm sure the western basin will freeze just in time for an ideal LES set up. Temps were in the single digits out west last night so I'm sure ice is expanding.</p></blockquote> Next week's torch should help keep Lake Erie ice free or at least melt whatever ice cover does develop. That could be beneficial once we get our first true arctic blast of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL510 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 2012 was CLE's warmest year on record: http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2013/01/2012_was_the_warmest_year_on_r.html#incart_2box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.