toronto blizzard Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 slp plots look great. Actual QPF output is rather meh. Really becuase it looked like there was a nice bullseye od 0.50-0.75'' QPF around us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Really becuase it looked like there was a nice bullseye od 0.50-0.75'' QPF around us Joe posted the QPF text output for YYZ. It was about ~0.30" liquid equivalent. I saw the mslp plots from wundermap, looks like the heaviest stuff just misses us to the SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I will like to lock up the 18z op GFS, PLEASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 looks warm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 looks warm 18z GFS verbatum is 0.64" qpf at DTW from about 8pm Thursday to 10am Friday, starting out as a little rain but quickly turning to snow...would KILL for it to verify. Which it wont, but hopefully its a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 18z GFS verbatum is 0.64" qpf at DTW from about 8pm Thursday to 10am Friday, starting out as a little rain but quickly turning to snow...would KILL for it to verify. Which it wont, but hopefully its a trend. I like the GFS run even though Im on the northern Fringe. I just think temps will take to long to cool down. Thinking will be in the 40's for most of Thursday. Will see I guess. Maybe another 1.5" surprise similar to today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Looks to be a case where nobody in the area really benefits from a favorable storm track, other than Toronto. Even so, I doubt there will be any accumulations greater than 4" in this region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Joe posted the QPF text output for YYZ. It was about ~0.30" liquid equivalent. I saw the mslp plots from wundermap, looks like the heaviest stuff just misses us to the SE. I know I saw that. Killed me when I saw it but still time for it to shift a little west but not too far west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I like the GFS run even though Im on the northern Fringe. I just think temps will take to long to cool down. Thinking will be in the 40's for most of Thursday. Will see I guess. Maybe another 1.5" surprise similar to today. Dynamic cooling can do wonders. Even look at DTWs obs today, when it was supposed to be rain here: 08am: 35F, Cloudy 09am: 36F, Lgt Snow 10am: 33F, Snow, Fog 11am: 33F, Lgt Snow 12pm: 34F, Lgt Snow 01pm: 35F, Fog 02pm: 38F, Fog Also exactly 2 years ago today, we saw a 6-8" storm (which got ousted by the 10" storm a year later on nearly the same date), and I remember that storm it was in the low 40s up to the storms onset, and it immediately cooled down. So stuff like that isnt a big issue, but of course there are many other factors that need to be sorted out before we can get excited for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Wow, NAM is not budging from its idea of racing out that northern s/w. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Wow, NAM is not budging from it's idea of racing out that northern s/w. It's the NAM. GFS should be more interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 It's the NAM. GFS should be more interesting It's been pretty consistent though. Plus it's the embodiment of the seasonal trend. But I'll take a consistent EURO over it any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 It's been pretty consistent though. Plus it's the embodiment of the seasonal trend. But I'll take a consistent EURO over it any day. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Comparing the 0z H5 progs with the 18z H5 progs valid at the same time, I do notice a slight consolidation of the upper trough, with that vortmax less strung out and further west. Perhaps a slight trend towards the more amplified consensus, but this run should still keep the NAM on the progressive side of the envelope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Comparing the 0z H5 progs with the 18z H5 progs valid at the same time, I do notice a slight consolidation of the upper trough, with that vortmax less strung out and further west. Perhaps a slight trend towards the more amplified consensus, but this run should still keep the NAM on the progressive side of the envelope. Thru 54 hours, it doesnt look half bad lol. Certainly, alot better than its previous runs. Slightly more amplified but still not fully phased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Nam does not look right for some reason...it is trending towards the GFS/EURO tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpsycho Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 It is just moving so fast it does not get the needed moisture until it is well past SE MI. It will be interesting though as this will become one of the larger storms of the season SLP. This storm will also impact the next storms path too. Heck at least we have something to track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 A more amplified setup would lead toward a farther southwest low. Thursday's runs will determine it we get any nookie or the continued Celibacy If we can get the northern stream shortwave to dig southward into at least Texas (CO/NM ideally) we'd be golden. For that to happen, we would need to lose the crud across SE Canada and a much stronger ridge to build along the west coast (not happening with that next shortwave blasting in) So I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Looks like the potential is there for a stripe of snow. BL temperatures are in question though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Looks like the potential is there for a stripe of snow. BL temperatures are in question though. Temps are <32 for a period.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Temps are <32 for a period.. Yeah I just went and checked the 2m temperatures on this precipitation time period. Looks like after 51 hours, N IL is good for snow and lower MI shortly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Yeah I just went and checked the 2m temperatures on this precipitation time period. Looks like after 51 hours, N IL is good for snow and lower MI shortly after. It would be close but one thing in our favor is time of day, this would be starting around 00z in IL/WI and 03-06z across N IN/MI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 UKIE/GFS/GEM all look like systems go for some moderate snow on Friday. Now the dreaded waiting game begins. What are the chances the models go static for 72 hours? 2%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 0z CMC -60hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 00z GFS comes true and I vote Mr. Deedler starts every single thread for the rest of forever. 7" cobb bufkit for DTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 So far so good on the 00z models. Much as I said about 18z, I would take the 00z GFS and its 0.65" qpf Thurs/Fri, lock it up and run. Taking the GFS verbatum, DTW sees 0.10" qpf (snow) during Friday afternoon with 2m temps in the low 30s, then after a few hour lull we see snow from approx 8pm Thurs to 10am Fri, with another 0.55" qpf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 00z GFS comes true and I vote Mr. Deedler starts every single thread for the rest of forever. 7" cobb bufkit for DTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 ecmwf folds to the gfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 ecmwf folds to the gfs. Yes I know BL temps.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Yes I know BL temps.. precip is light across the whole region. nothing exciting anywhere...unless you like a sloppy dab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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