famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I personally will trade a snowless October with an active winter. 2" of snow followed by rain isn't as exciting. Snow in October is so rare that you will probably not have to make such a "trade" for another 20 or 30 years at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Anyway, its UP'ing in Sussex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 But just think how difficult it has been for us to get snow this winter in Dec-Feb. To get snow that accumulates even a little in October is truly amazing and a bad omen as well by the way. I'm never rooting for an early snowfall again. I'll wait till mid December if I have to for even a flake. 100000% we all had high hopes with that early snow for the future well in the end to good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjvesnow Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Anyway, its UP'ing in Sussex. Light snow here in Rockaway in Morris county Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 44 here in bkay dew point 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 29.3/27 Mod Snow 3/4" on the ground w/ all surfaces covered.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Changed to snow in Sussex. Also snowing in Newburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 29.3/27 Mod Snow 3/4" on the ground w/ all surfaces covered.. impossible, no one in the metro area would see accumulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Started as rain here, 44 F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 impossible, no one in the metro area would see accumulations. Is Middletown really considered part of NYC metro, though? Its 70+ miles away on the other side of I-84... In any case, I don't recall anyone who said no one in OKX-land would get accumulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjvesnow Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 impossible, no one in the metro area would see accumulations. Cant tell if you are kidding or not, but he is not in the "metro area" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 There will be fine line between areas that get either snow or rain the next few hours. The rain/snow line will probably be somewhere between where wet-bulb temps are 34-36F. Which is just outside the NYC right now. Snow will probably accumulate the most, where wet-bulb temps are 33F or below: I also don't believe the there will much sleet the next few hours, because 850mb and 925mb temps so far seem to be running uniform to each other, right now. I don't see many reports of sleet falling over PA, either. There might be more sleet well NW of NYC, later this afternoon, as the low-level temps cool down to near freezing, and mid-level temps rise above freezing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Is Middletown really considered part of NYC metro, though? Its 70+ miles away on the other side of I-84... In any case, I don't recall anyone who said no one in OKX-land would get accumulations. Im not going back through the thread, it was stated numerous times. and its not just middletown seeing snow. I have started as snow here too, though its still very light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 12Z RGEM Total Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 There will be fine line between areas that get either snow or rain the next few hours. The rain/snow line will probably be somewhere between where wet-bulb temps are 34-36F. Which is just outside the NYC right now. Snow will probably accumulate the most, where wet-bulb temps are 33F or below: I also don't believe the there will much sleet the next few hours, because 850mb and 925mb temps so far seem to be running uniform to each other, right now. I don't see many reports of sleet falling over PA, either. There might be more sleet well NW of NYC, later this afternoon, as the low-level temps cool down to near freezing, and mid-level temps rise above freezing: Sometimes sleet forms because of a dry layer, not because of a warm layer. If raindrops pass through near freezing air which is very dry, the evaporation can cool them enough for them to freeze. There have been many reports of sleet to the west of NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 impossible, no one in the metro area would see accumulations. LOL-Sussex is hardly metro as well as the other too-far far NW fringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 impossible, no one in the metro area would see accumulations. Middletown/Orange Co, NY is in the NYC combined statistical area (and so is Trenton, NJ/Mercer Co), but it is NOT in the metropolitan statistical area (e.g. metro area). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Is Middletown really considered part of NYC metro, though? Its 70+ miles away on the other side of I-84... In any case, I don't recall anyone who said no one in OKX-land would get accumulations. Well you're kinda correct, Middletown is along 84 but is on the north side and it's 50 miles from Central Park. Light snow here with a coating on everything 30/27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Cant tell if you are kidding or not, but he is not in the "metro area" He was being sarcastic to all the naysayers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Well you're kinda correct, Middletown is along 84 but is on the north side and it's 50 miles from Central Park. Light snow here with a coating on everything 30/27. I was looking at driving distance, not "as the crow flies". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Middletown/Orange Co, NY is in the NYC combined METROPOLITAN statistical area (and so is Trenton, NJ/Mercer Co), but it is NOT in the metropolitan statistical area (e.g. metro area). Fixed that for ya. And it was tongue in cheek, based on the comments yesterday that indicated a lot of people here seem to think this is the NYC/LI forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Seriously, there's a banter thread. And no one, from my recollection, said that places in Orange County (well NW of the city with some elevations over 1000' and averaging twice as much snow as Midtown) or even the northern suburbs wouldn't see some accumulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sometimes sleet forms because of a dry layer, not because of a warm layer. If raindrops pass through near freezing air which is very dry, the evaporation can cool them enough for them to freeze. There have been many reports of sleet to the west of NYC. I've haven't seen any reports of sleet. Been look through mostly mesonet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Its kind of hypocritcal to say Orange county isnt in the "NYC metro area" when most consider Suffolk in the metro area yet MOST places in Orange county are closer to NYC than they are.. smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I've haven't seen any reports of sleet. Been look through mostly mesonet though. Indiantown Gap reported sleet. A spotter in Allentown also reported sleet. ASOS won't report sleet since it doesn't know what that is. Instead it can report just about anything else (rain, freezing rain, unknown precip or snow) instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Anyway, rain and sleet reported at White Plains right now (human observer put the sleet in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeS Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Lightly snowing here in Parsippany. It's more than likely a mix, but it's mostly snow at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I was looking at driving distance, not "as the crow flies". 1 hr drive to NYC... I do it 3 times a week for work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonli18t Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Its kind of hypocritcal to say Orange county isnt in the "NYC metro area" when most consider Suffolk in the metro area yet MOST places in Orange county are closer to NYC than they are.. smh more than 2/3 of the population of suffolk county lives closer to NYC than anyone in Orange county. I am 10 miles east into Suffolk County and I am a half hour drive from Queens. People who aren't from long island look at the long end and think people live there. Barely. Middletown, Ny is not metro NY. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Fixed that for ya. And it was tongue in cheek, based on the comments yesterday that indicated a lot of people here seem to think this is the NYC/LI forum. Thank you! If im not mistaken we ALL fall in the same CWA.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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