Typhoon Tip Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 if anyone gives a hoot the UKMET puts that bomb center on Porland, Maine. Doens't matter though - clearly a windy rain bomb the ends as hill-top denuding isallobaric wind event. In fact, that's about as perfect a set up for that as I've ever scene. May as well be p-wave off an a-bomb. Good grief! in fact ... that needs a thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 too bad it has to be about 10 degrees to ice in the daytime at that time of year... haha j/k no really thou has the interior of SNE had any icing storms past the 20'th of february during the daylight hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 no really thou has the interior of SNE had any icing storms past the 20'th of february during the daylight hours I thought VDAY 07 was a big icing event, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 no really thou has the interior of SNE had any icing storms past the 20'th of february during the daylight hours Just off the top of my head, 2/28 of last year had .1-.2 ice I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 if anyone gives a hoot the UKMET puts that bomb center on Porland, Maine. Doens't matter though - clearly a windy rain bomb the ends as hill-top denuding isallobaric wind event. In fact, that's about as perfect a set up for that as I've ever scene. May as well be p-wave off an a-bomb. Good grief! in fact ... that needs a thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I thought VDAY 07 was a big icing event, but I could be wrong. It was a huge sleet event. I don't think there was overwhelming freezing rain. Also that was before February 20th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 The NWS at a glance forecast for 2,000ft looks a bit optimistic for the late week period... but I think this looks a lot better than what will actually transpire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 no really thou has the interior of SNE had any icing storms past the 20'th of february during the daylight hours There relatively infrequent ... but, as much as that migh have something to do with sun angle, it may also have a lot to do with the difference in the mid level thermal fields at this time of year. Ice storms are more common in late November through mid December, though are certainly not limited to that time span - duh. The reason for that is because the season's first cold shots are often low-level loaded, where the mid level partial thickness' have not yet caught up with the seasonal slide. By the time you get to latter February, the mid levels are about as cold as they are going to get - in the means. Obviously local scale events will perturb that generalization. Icing model is that you have a substantive partial thickness aloft that is above freezing, with a partial thickness below that is at or below freezing. Water droplets become super cooled as they fall through 29F air (for example) and are thus physically prone to freezing almost immediately upon contact with anything exposed to that same air. If the lower level column is too tall, sleet results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 There relatively infrequent ... but, as much as that migh have something to do with sun angle, it may also have a lot to do with the difference in the mid level thermal fields at this time of year. Ice storms are more common in late November through mid December, though are certainly not limited to that time span - duh. The reason for that is because the season's first cold shots are often low-level loaded, where the mid level partial thickness' have not yet caught up with the seasonal slide. By the time you get to latter February, the mid levels are about as cold as they are going to get - in the means. Obviously local scale events will perturb that generalization. Icing model is that you have a substantive partial thickness aloft that is above freezing, with a partial thickness below that is at or below freezing. Water droplets become super cooled as they fall through 29F air (for example) and are thus physically prone to freezing almost immediately upon contact with anything exposed to that same air. If the lower level column is too tall, sleet results. I remember an event in April when I was in high school down near Albany, NY, where we got over a half inch of ice. Lost power and had school off... I want to say it was my senior year in 2003. I remember a few inches of snow/sleet and then a half inch of ice. Killington, VT and Glens Falls, NY area got like two feet of snow. It was one of those long, steady overrunning events with a west to east moisture train oscillating north and south like one giant lake effect band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Biggest icestorm that I ever seen, occurred on 2/28/95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston-winter08 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 this run of the 18z GFS should make things more interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 this run of the 18z GFS should make things more interesting It's probably wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 Kevin knows best with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 GFS now has some snow accumulations for elevations of northern Mass and southern NH/VT... basically from Moneypitmike over to HubbDave and up towards Zucker in the Wednesday night through Friday morning time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 GFS now has some snow accumulations for elevations of northern Mass and southern NH/VT... basically from Moneypitmike over to HubbDave and up towards Zucker in the Wednesday night through Friday morning time frame. Doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 35F drizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Doubt it. Oh yeah I wasn't saying I think it'll happen, just saying what the model shows. Its at least interesting to think about. It looks like it would only be cold enough at night and at 1,000ft and above. Check out early next week, too. Too bad this is the 18z GFS but honestly it wouldn't matter if it was any run of any models... they have been atrocious this year so its hard to even put any stock into a given model solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Why is anyone looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Oh yeah I wasn't saying I think it'll happen, just saying what the model shows. Its at least interesting to think about. It looks like it would only be cold enough at night and at 1,000ft and above. Check out early next week, too. Too bad this is the 18z GFS but honestly it wouldn't matter if it was any run of any models... they have been atrocious this year so its hard to even put any stock into a given model solution. Thankfully, while the rest of these guys are prancing around in their euro style thong swim wear declaring Winter over, we'll be able to ski and ski some more. If nothing else NNE ski areas will end up doing alright over the next month. It's nice to know that even under the most hostile of weather patterns we have the ability to get/make/hold snow. This season has been a testament to the resilience of the eastern ski areas and eastern skiers. If you will it it's not a dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thankfully, while the rest of these guys are prancing around in their euro style thong swim wear declaring Winter over, we'll be able to ski and ski some more. If nothing else NNE ski areas will end up doing alright over the next month. It's nice to know that even under the most hostile of weather patterns we have the ability to get/make/hold snow. This season has been a testament to the resilience of the eastern ski areas and eastern skiers. If you will it it's not a dream. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBRI Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Stratton Wed 29th, Snowmobiling March 4 out of Brettonwoods and Jay peak March 15-17th. In between lots of praying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thankfully, while the rest of these guys are prancing around in their euro style thong swim wear declaring Winter over, we'll be able to ski and ski some more. If nothing else NNE ski areas will end up doing alright over the next month. It's nice to know that even under the most hostile of weather patterns we have the ability to get/make/hold snow. This season has been a testament to the resilience of the eastern ski areas and eastern skiers. If you will it it's not a dream. Hey Pete, hope all is well, just checking out the vids out of MRG, impressed with the conditions up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Thankfully, while the rest of these guys are prancing around in their euro style thong swim wear declaring Winter over, we'll be able to ski and ski some more. If nothing else NNE ski areas will end up doing alright over the next month. It's nice to know that even under the most hostile of weather patterns we have the ability to get/make/hold snow. This season has been a testament to the resilience of the eastern ski areas and eastern skiers. If you will it it's not a dream. You are the leading disciple of ULLR. You make him/her proud every day. I shrink in your presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 weeklies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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