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Feb. 19th 2012 Winter Storm Obs./Disc.


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I am starting to smell increasing bust potential for the triangle if current radar trends are any indication over North GA/Eastern TN. We shall see though. This in association with with the upper disturbance.

Yeah RAH just released a very long discussion which basically left the door open for everyone south of VA to bust.

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HEAVY SNOW IS BEGINNING TO DEVELOP ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CNTRL

APPALACHIANS...LIKELY CONTINUING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WHILE ALSO

SPREADING EWD WITH TIME. INCH AN HOUR RATES WILL OCCUR...ESPECIALLY

LATER THIS AFTERNOON. ISOLATED INSTANCES OF THUNDERSNOW MAY BE

POSSIBLE LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE EARLY EVENING.

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Agreed...850 temp advection is NOT cold at this point...if anything, it is neutral...not what you want to see when you already have a lack of cold air to work with...and as you stated radar trends over Tennessee are not looking good...it will be interesting to watch and see if precip refires east of the apps as the NW band of precip wraps around the 850 low later this afternoon...

I am starting to smell increasing bust potential for the triangle if current radar trends are any indication over North GA/Eastern TN. We shall see though. This in association with with the upper disturbance.

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The 12Z Euro snowfall has just been released. I'd call it a mixed result. For the Triad and Triangle, yes it drops slightly less than the 0Z Euro's 4-5". However, it still drops a healthy 3", which is better than the 12Z GFS' mainly 1-2".

The thing I've noticed about looking at the European snowfall maps is that the Euro tends to overdo the southern edge of the snowfall accumulation in situations like this where you have low-level and surface temperature issues. I wouldn't expect much of the Euro's southern snow edge to verify.

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4-6?

This is the actual forecast for Mt Airy

This Afternoon: Sleet before 4pm, then snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 44. Northeast wind between 9 and 11 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow and sleet accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.

Tonight: Snow, mainly before 3am. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 29. North wind between 6 and 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible.

They must have changed it since i last looked. lol

Just looked on accuweather site, but this NWS forecast. It may not be updated? but this is what I was going by.

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST MONDAY...

.REST OF TODAY...RAIN AND SNOW. A CHANCE OF SLEET LATE THIS

MORNING...THEN SLEET THIS AFTERNOON. SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATION

OF 2 TO 4 INCHES. MUCH COOLER. NEAR STEADY TEMPERATURE IN THE

LOWER 40S. NORTHEAST WINDS AROUND 10 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 20 MPH.

CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION NEAR 100 PERCENT.

.TONIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY. SNOW...MAINLY IN THE EVENING. TOTAL

SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 4 TO 6 INCHES. COOLER WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER

20S. NORTH WINDS AROUND 10 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 20 MPH. CHANCE OF

SNOW 90 PERCENT.

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GSP still feeling good, despite the crappy radar and the fact that it's 42 here. Oh well, shows what I know about weather. Hopefully, good news for you guys downstream.

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH MONDAY/...

AS OF 1245 PM...THE NEAR TERM WAS UPDATED WITH THE LATEST GUIDANCE

AND OBS TRENDS. NO MAJOR CHANGES WERE MADE...AS THINGS PROGRESS

PRETTY MUCH AS ANTICIPATED SO FAR. A MOD/HVY SNOW BAND SEEMS TO BE

SETTING UP IN SRN VA...WITH DEFORMATION ZONE PRECIP STILL OVER ERN

TN. ONCE THE DEFORMATION/UPPER SHORTWAVE ENTERS THE NC MTNS...SNOW

LEVELS SHUD FALL PRETTY RAPIDLY. TO THE EAST...COLD AIR DAMMING

CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN...AND TEMPS CONTINUE TO STEADILY FALL THRU

THE 40S AND UPR 30S. TWEAKS TO QPF AND TEMPS RESULT IN SOME CHANGE

TO SNOW ACCUM FCST. BUT STILL LOOKS LIKE CURRENT WARNING/ADVISORIES

ARE OK.

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the meat and potatoes of the NWS Raleigh discussion....would be AWESOME if the Triad got into the winter storm warning criteria

IF THE EVOLUTION OF THE APPROACHING

SHORTWAVES IS SLIGHTLY WRONG AND THE H85 LOW TRACK IS JUST 25-50

MILES DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY INDICATED BY GUIDANCE...THERE

WILL BE POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPLICATIONS TO THE PTYPE/ACCUM

FORECAST. A TRACK FURTHER SOUTH COULD RESULT IN MORE ACCUMS AND

FURTHER SOUTH...WHILE A TRACK FURTHER NORTH WOULD RESULT IN LESS

ACCUMS AND FURTHER NORTH.

ADVISORIES/WARNINGS:

WITH THE ABOVE IN MIND...FEEL THAT ACCUMULATION CONFIDENCE IS LOW

ENOUGH TO PRECLUDE THE ISSUANCE OF A WINTER STORM WARNING

ALONG/NORTH OF THE I-85 CORRIDOR TOWARD THE VA BORDER...AND THAT THE

WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY CURRENTLY IN PLACE SHOULD SUFFICE. IF

EVERYTHING COMES TOGETHER JUST RIGHT...IT WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR SOME

LOCATIONS TO SEE SLIGHTLY HIGHER SNOW ACCUMS THAN CURRENTLY

ADVERTISED...PRIMARILY NEAR THE VA BORDER...AND A SHORT-FUSED WINTER

STORM WARNING CANNOT BE RULED OUT. WITH LOW TEMPS BELOW FREEZING IN

MOST LOCATIONS...EXPECT A THREAT FOR SLICK ROADS/BLACK ICE NORTH OF

HWY 64 TONIGHT THROUGH ~9 AM MONDAY MORNING...AFTER WHICH SUNNY

SKIES SHOULD ALLOW TEMPS TO RISE ABOVE FREEZING. THE WINTER WEATHER

ADVISORY MAY NEED TO BE EXPANDED SOUTH OF HWY 64 IN SOME AREAS (MOST

LIKELY THE SANDHILLS/SW PIEDMONT) TO COVER A POTENTIAL FOR A TRACE

OF FREEZING RAIN AND/OR SLICK ROADS MONDAY MORNING.

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A mixture going on here now as big wet "dobs" are mixing in. Hard to believe, but, the Temp. is 40! DP 38. So, quite a difference in elevation apparently as heavy snow is now falling above 2000 ft with the temp of around freezing there. NE winds are probably why it is this mild here in the valley as they downslope off the mountains just to my NE.

The mixed precip changed over to heavy snow in wise about an hour ago and covered everything in no time. Check this out.

Here's a cam shot there:

http://www.mcs.uvawise.edu/webcam/

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I share some of the radar return concerns, but I would imagine we would see it fill in nicely as upper forcing moves in. Just put up a quick blog post comparing the latest RPM to the current radar.

Thanks for the update Matt, I was just looking at radar and it kinda killed my expectations if you know what I mean. lol

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I'm not giving up just yet....in fact am I looking at extracted data right from 12z NAM, shows thunder snow (KRZZ)

0 02/19 12Z 44 34 39 11 0.00 0.00 548 560 1.7 -15.4 1015 100 051OVC178 0.0 15.0

3 02/19 15Z 42 33 38 14 0.02 0.00 548 560 1.2 -16.5 1015 100 -RA 047OVC134 0.0 14.3

6 02/19 18Z 40 35 29 14 0.07 0.00 547 557 1.0 -16.9 1012 100 -RA 032OVC144 0.0 8.6

9 02/19 21Z 38 35 29 15 0.13 0.01 547 555 2.0 -19.0 1010 100 -TSRA 006OVC224 0.0 3.3

12 02/20 00Z 34 33 5 14 0.38 0.01 543 552 -1.4 -19.1 1011 100 TSSN 000OVC281 4.2 0.7

15 02/20 03Z 32 31 11 15 0.35 0.00 540 550 -1.0 -20.8 1012 100 -SN 000OVC171 3.8 1.0

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Heavy rain now, it had been light rain/drizzle but now its pouring.

If this doesn't bring down temps even further and or maybe/hopefully turns us to snow.. I dont know what will

34.4

Edit: This is not heavy rain, it is heavy sleet!! Lots of sleet coming down. Under the yellow returns on radar in alexander county

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