famartin Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 as of yesterday NYC had 499 degree days for feb which equals out to slightly above 40 - going to be close with a few years for the warmest Warmest 40.6 2002/1998/1984 40.1 1954 40.0 1997/1991 39.9 1976 39.8 1990 Precip NYC is the # 1 driest for Feb with .40 BUT there are a couple more chances this month for precip so that record is in doubt. Snowfall is .02 which is # 6 least snowiest - this has a good chance of holding ... Just curious, how come you put a 0 in the snowfall? Its .2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just curious, how come you put a 0 in the snowfall? Its .2" Actually its 0.2 - thats what they have here http://kamala.cod.edu/nj/latest.cdus41.NYC.KOKX.html agree ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 As we can see normal for these days means well above the 1981-2010 averages. I don't think anyone sees that changing........we may have to revise what we call normal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 looks like today and tomorrow 2/23-24 much above normal temps will make this Feb the warmest so far after tomorrow BUT probably won't end up number 1 because of the cool down starting saturday still # 1 driest Feb with .40 BUT will not end up being # 1 with a couple of precip chances through the 29th # 6 least snowiest Feb has a good chance of verifying unless we get any leap year snow on the 29th which still is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 looks like today and tomorrow 2/23-24 much above normal temps will make this Feb the warmest so far after tomorrow BUT probably won't end up number 1 because of the cool down starting saturday still # 1 driest Feb with .40 BUT will not end up being # 1 with a couple of precip chances through the 29th # 6 least snowiest Feb has a good chance of verifying unless we get any leap year snow on the 29th which still is possible models show that storm going west of us now. Serious torch today. 50 here already and it's 9am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Actually its 0.2 - thats what they have here http://kamala.cod.ed...1.NYC.KOKX.html agree ?? Central Park got that 0.2" of snow when a band of snow showers from the north passed through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 GLOBAL warming, not Eastern Europe warming. right, making a global warming assumption with 100 years of records...vs the supposed billions of years the earth had been around...OK its an IMPOSSIBLE assumption to make. Is it possible that between 1550 and 1650 AD the avg temp on earth went up a few tenths of a degree only to fall back? or for that matter any 100-200 year span throughout history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 NYC at +16.5 combined departure for DJF thus far -- incredible. +5.8 Dec, +4.7 Jan, and +6.0 Feb so far. The next week looks to continue w/ above normal temps. Would be amazing to finish > +5 temp departure for DJF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 NYC at +16.5 combined departure for DJF thus far -- incredible. +5.8 Dec, +4.7 Jan, and +6.0 Feb so far. The next week looks to continue w/ above normal temps. Would be amazing to finish > +5 temp departure for DJF. Most winters just aren't what they used to be, and I'm afraid it won't be getting better in the future. There will still be cold and snowy winters, but climate change is not good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 On account of the very warm winter, the first rhododendrons have burst into bloom at the New York Botanical Garden (Bronx, NY). A photo is below: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 tomorrow might be the 33rd day this winter with a minimum 32 or lower...that will tie 2001-02 for the least amount of 32 degree minimum days up to Feb. 26th...2001-02 had two on the last two days of February and 12 more before Spring sprung...I doubt we get that many and set the record...At least there will be one warmth record to show for this crappy winter... here is the break down for the years with the least amount of 32 degrees or lower minimum days for the winter... season....Oct. Nov. Dec. Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. total 2011-12.....0.....0...10...13.....9.................32 2001-02.....0.....0.....9...11...15.....9.....3...47 1997-98.....0.....8...10...13.....9.....9.....0...49 1990-91.....0.....2...11...20...12.....7.....0...52 1982-83.....0.....4...10...18...14.....7.....0...53 1952-53.....0.....2...12...19...16.....9.....0...58 1931-32.....0.....2...17.....4...17...18.....1...59 1972-73.....1.....7.....9...17...21.....4.....0...59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Here are the 10 warmest listings (December 1- February 28): Rank AveT Winter 1 41.6 2001-2002 2 40.2 1931-1932 3 39.6 1997-1998 4 39.1 1990-1991 5 38.6 1998-1999 6 38.5 1948-1949 7 38.1 1952-1953 8 37.9 1982-1983 9 37.7 1996-1997 10 37.6 1949-1950 Averages thru 2/24: Rank AveT Winter 1 41.5 2001-2002 2 40.4 2011-2012 3 40.2 1931-1932 4 39.3 1990-1991 5 39.2 1997-1998 6 38.6 1948-1949, 1998-1999 8 38.4 1949-1950 9 37.9 1982-1983 10 37.8 1952-1953, 2005-2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 tomorrow might be the 33rd day this winter with a minimum 32 or lower...that will tie 2001-02 for the least amount of 32 degree minimum days up to Feb. 26th...2001-02 had two on the last two days of February and 12 more before Spring sprung...I doubt we get that many and set the record...At least there will be one warmth record to show for this crappy winter... here is the break down for the years with the least amount of 32 degrees or lower minimum days for the winter... season....Oct. Nov. Dec. Jan. Feb. Mar. Apr. total 2011-12.....0.....0...10...13.....9.................32 2001-02.....0.....0.....9...11...15.....9.....3...47 1997-98.....0.....8...10...13.....9.....9.....0...49 1990-91.....0.....2...11...20...12.....7.....0...52 1982-83.....0.....4...10...18...14.....7.....0...53 1952-53.....0.....2...12...19...16.....9.....0...58 1931-32.....0.....2...17.....4...17...18.....1...59 1972-73.....1.....7.....9...17...21.....4.....0...59 That is nuts. And if you look, in the DJF period the majority of days did not get to 32 or lower. Looks like the only other year where the majority of days of each month had mins >32F was 97-98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Looks like the #1 position will be impossible to reach, #2 is not sealed yet. The coming week is above normal but not blowtorch; we'll probably fall back into 3rd warmest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Most winters just aren't what they used to be, and I'm afraid it won't be getting better in the future. There will still be cold and snowy winters, but climate change is not good for us. In terms of cold, agree 100%. In terms of snow, the NYC to Boston corridor is coming off a pretty amazingly snowy 11 year stretch...just around Boston, it is a 19 year stretch....what does the future hold? Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Allow me to introduce the good news... http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/429157_350140871675584_316323805057291_1095098_12327127_n.jpg La Nina is fading and will probably be gone by late spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Allow me to introduce the good news... http://sphotos.xx.fb..._12327127_n.jpg La Nina is fading and will probably be gone by late spring. And now for the bad news -- La Nina may be gone by the spring, but it may come back for autumn/winter 2012-13. Current AAM values indicate an increasing negative trend which promotes a Nina-like atmosphere. Although SSTA say we're weakening rapidly, the AAM, which is a better measure of current atmospheric conditions, suggests a La Nina pattern will be persisting for awhile. Thus we see the classic nina pattern depicted on model guidance for the next few weeks even though SSTA are approaching cold neutral in region 3.4. I noted in the main thread that the strong MJO wave probably has a lot to do with the warming of the eastern ENSO region. I'm interested to see if this -AAM continues and if we'll see a leveling off of the weakening in coming weeks. 2006-07 El Nino had a predominately -AAM, which likely promoted the Nina atmosphere and helped to intiate the positive AO/NAO which ruined Dec/Jan, much like this winter. We need to be careful, even if we transition into an El Nino, to keep an eye on the AAM as negative values during a warm ENSO are generally not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 And now for the bad news -- La Nina may be gone by the spring, but it may come back for autumn/winter 2012-13. Current AAM values indicate an increasing negative trend which promotes a Nina-like atmosphere. Although SSTA say we're weakening rapidly, the AAM, which is a better measure of current atmospheric conditions, suggests a La Nina pattern will be persisting for awhile. Thus we see the classic nina pattern depicted on model guidance for the next few weeks even though SSTA are approaching cold neutral in region 3.4. I noted in the main thread that the strong MJO wave probably has a lot to do with the warming of the eastern ENSO region. I'm interested to see if this -AAM continues and if we'll see a leveling off of the weakening in coming weeks. Yea the AAM may offer dis-enlightening news but I do not like to look that far ahead. Current observations depict a fading Nina which I will take as good news and run with until further notice lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 This morning was only the third morning we've gotten below 30F this Feb, looks probable that it will be the last as well. Insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Today's edition of The New York Times has a piece on this winter's warmth and the early blooms that have resulted. Excerpts follow: At the New York Botanical Garden in the Bronx, an experimental plot was in full flower on a recent February afternoon, as the thermometer edged toward 60. The Japanese camellias, which typically bloom in early spring, have displayed their rose-hued flowers continuously since December. Honeybees, a rarity before late March, were nursing the tiny pink clusters on a Dawn viburnum, while the Adonis amurensis, a ground-hugging spring ephemeral, was a profusion of yellow. “This is the earliest I’ve seen all of these things in flower,” said Todd Forrest, the garden’s vice president for horticulture and living collections... The complete article can be found at: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/nyregion/amid-winter-blooms-wondering-what-that-means-for-spring.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Another tidbit on this winter's warmth... Winter 2011-12 saw New York City move past the previous record for the longest stretch without a subzero low on January 8, 2012. The old record was 6,562 days from February 15, 1943 to February 2, 1961. New York City's last subzero temperature was recorded on January 19, 1994. Through today, NYC has gone 6,615 days without a subzero temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 OK, here's how things stack up through yesterday: 1 41.6 2001-2002 2 40.5 2011-2012 3 40.2 1931-1932 4 39.6 1997-1998 5 39.1 1990-1991 6 38.6 1998-1999 7 38.5 1948-1949 8 38.1 1952-1953 9 37.9 1982-1983 10 37.7 1996-1997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Another tidbit on this winter's warmth... Winter 2011-12 saw New York City move past the previous record for the longest stretch without a subzero low on January 8, 2012. The old record was 6,562 days from February 15, 1943 to February 2, 1961. New York City's last subzero temperature was recorded on January 19, 1994. Through today, NYC has gone 6,615 days without a subzero temperature. Not surprising if you consider that 5 of the 10 warmest winters on record have occurred since 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Another tidbit on this winter's warmth... Winter 2011-12 saw New York City move past the previous record for the longest stretch without a subzero low on January 8, 2012. The old record was 6,562 days from February 15, 1943 to February 2, 1961. New York City's last subzero temperature was recorded on January 19, 1994. Through today, NYC has gone 6,615 days without a subzero temperature. Looks like you could tack almost 300 days to that total. Chances of getting a subzero low in NYC in March are essentially 0 (the record low for the month is 3F). It's 275 days till Dec 1 2012, which is the next month where subzero temps have been recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Another tidbit on this winter's warmth... Winter 2011-12 saw New York City move past the previous record for the longest stretch without a subzero low on January 8, 2012. The old record was 6,562 days from February 15, 1943 to February 2, 1961. New York City's last subzero temperature was recorded on January 19, 1994. Through today, NYC has gone 6,615 days without a subzero temperature. JFK has gone 9,901 days so far without a subzero temperature, closing in on the 10k mark. I don't know its longest stretch but I assume this would be it. The last subzero temperature was -2°F on January 21st, 1985. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 JFK has gone 9,901 days so far without a subzero temperature, closing in on the 10k mark. I don't know its longest stretch but I assume this would be it. The last subzero temperature was -2°F on January 21st, 1985. It is, by far. Of course, records for JFK are only continuous back to 1959. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Feb. will end up the warmest ever at 40.9 degrees...Old record was 40.6...The winter will end up averaging 40.5...the .33" of rain so far today takes this year off the top ten driest February's...withh 1.33" and counting number 10 is 1.29"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Feb. will end up the warmest ever at 40.9 degrees...Old record was 40.6...The winter will end up averaging 40.5...the .33" of rain so far today takes this year off the top ten driest February's...withh 1.33" and counting number 10 is 1.29"... Feb here will finish at 39.1 degrees second behind 39.4 in 1998. Winter mean of 38.7 second to 39.5 in 2001-02. (Based on 35 years of record) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Meteorological Winter 2011-2012 is now officially over -- and it ranks as the second warmest ever in NYC since records began in 1869. This met winter in NYC, the average temperature was 40.49 F, which is 5.35 F above normal. Thanks to our friend YH for the statistics and graph below. With all of this said...I have two words....good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Meteorological Winter 2011-2012 is now officially over -- and it ranks as the second warmest ever in NYC since records began in 1869. This met winter in NYC, the average temperature was 40.49 F, which is 5.35 F above normal. Thanks to our friend YH for the statistics and graph below. With all of this said...I have two words....good riddance. What winter was the warmest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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