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2/19 East Coast Winter Storm Threat (Part 2)


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Let's see...Boston is at 7.8" of total snow since last July 1 - I'm assuming that everything since then counts...

9" total was a 1934-1935 least snowfall record. I got to figure the way this year goes ... and how fitting it would be, that we HAVE to eek 1.3" out of some source just to maximize this butt banger journey - HAHA.

1936-1937

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models have grasped reality sooner this time

on the one hand, our euphoria won't implode just 24 hours before the storm like Feb 11

on the other hand, we've lost even a model fantasy to track for the next 2 days... it's gonna be so f'n boring in here again

Yeah. Once storm mode is lifted the same winter 11-12 shinannegans will ensue.

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Ahh you just have to toughin' up my southern friends. What if this is just the start of a two or even three year cycle of below normal snowfall? Don't think it can happen?? Well i'm on year three and i'm not that far away from you guys and at a higher latitude to boot. It's painful but gets easier with time. Only difference this time around is you folks joined me in the circle of despair. Just have to deal with it as it comes. I suppose these stinkers come around to keep climo in check.

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Ahh you just have to toughin' up my southern friends. What if this is just the start of a two or even three year cycle of below normal snowfall? Don't think it can happen?? Well i'm on year three and i'm not that far away from you guys and at a higher latitude to boot. It's painful but gets easier with time. Only difference this time around is you folks joined me in the circle of despair. Just have to deal with it as it comes. I suppose these stinkers come around to keep climo in check.

hmmmmmm circle of despair, that catchy, like the anti circle of trust, I like that!

GFS got taken behind the woodshed.

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This is something I have noticed for many years, that's why their climo is double mine. A storm can sit at the BM and destroy them but be 70 miles south of the BM and I get nada.

I'm glad an optimist like yourself actually backed me up on that.

I'm half venting, but it does seem to work out like that....I guess that is why they avg ike 30" more than I do.

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GFS got owned in this storm by the Euro on that northern stream.

The GFS was pathetic and awful with this storm, and this disaster was the topper for one of the worst winters for any one model I have seen in a long time. At least it was mostly pretty easy to scoff at its bombed out runs. That said, I give all the credit to the modelers and data assimilation folks like dtk for making use of much less resources than other modeling centers have (i.e., ECMWF), but this winter has been particularly bad for the GFS (which is even more surprising since it was stellar last winter).

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I never realized that a winter could be THIS bad....it's one think to read the fine print in the UTAH site anals, but it's quite another to actually live it.

One thing this season has done is provide me with a meterological breadth of perspective; I'm battle tested....you name it, I've experiened it.

From the ecstasy to of 1996 to the absolute toilet of 2012.

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I'm glad an optimist like yourself actually backed me up on that.

I'm half venting, but it does seem to work out like that....I guess that is why they avg ike 30" more than I do.

I posted a long post backed with examples a long time ago on Eastern. Lots of physical and climatic reasons death bands set up more often in the arc running from Dryslut, Brian, Mark down to MPM, Pete. One of the reasons I laugh at MPM's QPF fetish.

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The GFS was pathetic and awful with this storm, and this disaster was the topper for one of the worst winters for any one model I have seen in a long time. At least it was mostly pretty easy to scoff at its bombed out runs. That said, I give all the credit to the modelers and data assimilation folks like dtk for making use of much less resources than other modeling centers have (i.e., ECMWF), but this winter has been particularly bad for the GFS (which is even more surprising since it was stellar last winter).

Yeah it hasn't been a great winter for any models...but the GFS has been getting killed in high leverage forecasts. Euro has had its misses, but its been its usual pretty reliable self inside of 84 hours aside from a few nitpicks here and there...its been worse than other winters in that D4-5 time range on many storm threats, but the GFS has been a joke inside of 100 hours.

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I posted a long post backed with examples a long time ago on Eastern. Lots of physical and climatic reasons death bands set up more often in the arc running from Dryslut, Brian, Mark down to MPM, Pete. One of the reasons I laugh at MPM's QPF fetish.

Topography is obviously the most glaring, but enlighten me....

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Topography is obviously the most glaring, but enlighten me....

Its really not that big a difference...I think its just happened a couple times in the past winter to make it seem like it does more...1/12/11 and 10/29/11...I mean, remember they got porked in the 1/27/11 storm when the death band set up over Ginx/NW RI. Don't forget 12/19/09 either.

The differences in average snowfall is almost all elevation driven and some upslope enhancement depending on what side of the Berkshire crest you are on. A slightly lesser phenomenon occurs in the ORH hills.

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I never realized that a winter could be THIS bad....it's one think to read the fine print in the UTAH site anals, but it's quite another to actually live it.

One thing this season has done is provide me with a meterological breadth of perspective; I'm battle tested....you name it, I've experiened it.

From the ecstasy to of 1996 to the absolute toilet of 2012.

Hard to believe the combo of warm and dry is as bad as it is. I just remember telling you in 10 as bad as you perceived it, it could be much worse. Now you know what I mean't. Remember I grew up in SRI, but even there this is the worst.

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