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Feb. 18-20, 2012 Disco/Analysis


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  On 2/17/2012 at 2:47 AM, tnweathernut said:

Makes me wonder about the initialization errors mentioned and whether or not what we thought was a trend was a hiccup. I guess time will tell, always does.

Just goes to show how important that can be. GFS and Euro will be telling. Two days out and still no one knows WTF is going to happen.

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  On 2/17/2012 at 2:48 AM, CAD_Wedge_NC said:

So much for the idea that there would not be a big phase but I still don't think this is the final solution.

Am I missing something? Was it because the phase was later that it pulled it so far north? It looked like it was keeping it self separate...also was part of the problem the energy being so much stronger on the NAM that was in the plains trailing it?

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  On 2/17/2012 at 2:50 AM, burgertime said:

Am I missing something? Was it because the phase was later that it pulled it so far north? It looked like it was keeping it self separate...also was part of the problem the energy being so much stronger on the NAM that was in the plains trailing it?

Yeah, it went negative too soon. Too much interaction between the streams.

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  On 2/17/2012 at 2:52 AM, Dunkman said:

I mean it goes east to the LA gulf coast, then NE to like knoxville, then due east to off of norfolk. I guess it's possible but that certainly seems odd.

edit: corrected geography problem

You gotta remember this is way beyond the nam's range of 6hrs. B)

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  On 2/17/2012 at 2:50 AM, burgertime said:

Am I missing something? Was it because the phase was later that it pulled it so far north? It looked like it was keeping it self separate...also was part of the problem the energy being so much stronger on the NAM that was in the plains trailing it?

It looked to me like the southern energy was stronger at 500 and went negative sooner. This caused the low to be north, not to mention the low is stronger. I thought it looked like a possible solution, now whether or not it's correct is another story.

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  On 2/17/2012 at 3:00 AM, superjames1992 said:

0z NAM changes a lot of us over to snow at the end, it seems, so it's not all bad news. Of course, cold chasing the moisture setups usually work terribly for us, so I'm not overly excited about those prospects.

I have said that for several days. Most of time the set up cold air chasing don't work out for us

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  On 2/17/2012 at 3:01 AM, burgertime said:

Beggers can't be choosy.

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I don't take any solace in the fact my play by play was pretty good. I sure hope the low into east TN isn't the correct solution. Keep the track of the EURO and the temp profile of the NAM and we'd be in business, or a lot of us would i would think.

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  On 2/17/2012 at 3:01 AM, tnweathernut said:

The one good thing I can say about this run is that it IS colder. The only reason we don't realize any benefits is b/c it sends the low into eastern TN. Much much colder look north of the low.

Yeah the 2m temps north of the low are much colder. This event has been trending colder over the past couple model cycles now

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  On 2/17/2012 at 3:05 AM, CaseyWXwatcher said:

Yeah the 2m temps north of the low are much colder. This event has been trending colder over the past couple model cycles now

Yeah the northern stream was quicker and the low was slower allowing the high over the lakes to shift more east and get established.

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  On 2/17/2012 at 3:00 AM, superjames1992 said:

0z NAM changes a lot of us over to snow at the end, it seems, so it's not all bad news. Of course, cold chasing the moisture setups usually work terribly for us, so I'm not overly excited about those prospects.

It is showing us some wrap-around love, but that rarely works out for anyone east of the mountains. If we are to get anything frozen (outside of some token flakes), that low needs to go well south of us. I would love to spend the weekend at ground-zero for this one.

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