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2012 Winter Banter Thread #3


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This is probably one of the more painful misses for me, nearing the Dec 26 2010 and Jan 5 2002 category. Only a few miles to the south west of me got a couple inches, per the NWS reports...and only a trace here. I guess it was a bad omen that the LWX radar was out for this event. Looks like the only thing to track this week is a possible clipper that will dry out over the mountains and then it will be March. Good riddance to an aweful winter.

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I'm not tracking jack squat after last week

Agreed 100%.

lol

lol- lies. total lies. All snow threats will always be tracked by the usual suspects because we have an acute and uncontrollable affliction. We spent hours discussion the difference between a 1/2" and 1" multiple times year.

Not clicking the ncep or wunderground link when there is chatter about snow is like expecting a meth-head to take a pass on a free hit because he's tired of taking hits.

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I think Ian and I did fine yesterday but kind of wish we had gone west into some elevation where 6-10" amounts were more prevalent. It was tough because radar coverage wasn't as great out there and we were fearful of being trapped and less mobile if/when the storm pushed east. When we were nearing culpeper the radar was screaming to go southeast and I am glad we did because we wanted to get into +SN. It ended up elevation wasn't an issue after dark with temps in the 30-32 range. I'm guessing I 81 corridor had higher ratios with more duration versus rates though I'm sure they got in super bands as well.

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I think Ian and I did fine yesterday but kind of wish we had gone west into some elevation where 6-10" amounts were more prevalent. It was tough because radar coverage wasn't as great out there and we were fearful of being trapped and less mobile if/when the storm pushed east. When we were nearing culpeper the radar was screaming to go southeast and I am glad we did because we wanted to get into +SN. It ended up elevation wasn't an issue after dark with temps in the 30-32 range. I'm guessing I 81 corridor had higher ratios with more duration versus rates though I'm sure they got in super bands as well.

only thing we could have done better maybe was leave earlier to get further southwest initially. i think we hit about the best snow we could.. doubt anyone saw sustained rates much or any higher than we did, tho we could have found better accum i suppose.

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I think Ian and I did fine yesterday but kind of wish we had gone west into some elevation where 6-10" amounts were more prevalent. It was tough because radar coverage wasn't as great out there and we were fearful of being trapped and less mobile if/when the storm pushed east. When we were nearing culpeper the radar was screaming to go southeast and I am glad we did because we wanted to get into +SN. It ended up elevation wasn't an issue after dark with temps in the 30-32 range. I'm guessing I 81 corridor had higher ratios with more duration versus rates though I'm sure they got in super bands as well.

I thought you guys were spot on. Considering the time you guys left dc, going too far s&w would have been a mistake. If you left earlier in the day you would have had more time to get to the areas that came in with higher snow totals but since your chase was more for experiencing the highest rates vs deepest snow, you pretty much got good bang for the buck imo.

lol- Ian and I posted at the exact same time. what Ian said.

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I thought you guys were spot on. Considering the time you guys left dc, going too far s&w would have been a mistake. If you left earlier in the day you would have had more time to get to the areas that came in with higher snow totals but since your chase was more for experiencing the highest rates vs deepest snow, you pretty much got good bang for the buck imo.

lol- Ian and I posted at the exact same time. what Ian said.

I think we saw 4-6" totals but I doubt many places more than 6" unless it was super localized.

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We don't forecast for Richmond and put no effort into the map down that way. CWG actually got a couple people claiming we hyped the event on oen of Jason's posts after he pretty much said we'd see less than inch and maybe nothing.

seems like the ULL was a perfect latitude for a southern virginia snow. we just needed it be a little further north i guess.

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only thing we could have done better maybe was leave earlier to get further southwest initially. i think we hit about the best snow we could.. doubt anyone saw sustained rates much or any higher than we did, tho we could have found better accum i suppose.

I doubt anyone outside of the i81 corridor did much better than 10-15 miles northwest of Ashland where I thought there may have been some 6" totals.

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What the heck is going on in the obs thread? That is some of the weirdest stuff I've ever seen here.

Great pics everyone. Too bad that storm couldn't have turned up the coast. I wish now that I'd have chased too. I have family in c- ville or I could have driven down to Wytheville or Blacksburg.

I think this has been one of the worst winters I remember on a national scale. Next year might not favor us, but I'll bet it isn't this bad on a scale this large.

BTW, did dt's disaster forecast end up busting low?

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Well this winter was hell. I'm not tracking any storms the rest of the year unless we appear to be getting something like March 1993, and it's on the models about 6 hours prior to the event, and even then I'll be skeptical.

Great job to Wes this year on predicting the garbage that we got. I've never seen a more unbiased forecaster than Wes, and I'm glad we have him in this region to keep us all level... well as level as I guess we could expect with the personalities around here. Anyway, hope next winter is decent, but it's time for me to get on out there and enjoy spring/summer/fall. I'll be back next December to enjoy tracking the fantasies while hoping for those fantasies to become reality. It's a humbling hobby for sure. This storm humbled some of the absolute best.

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Well this winter was hell. I'm not tracking any storms the rest of the year unless we appear to be getting something like March 1993, and it's on the models about 6 hours prior to the event, and even then I'll be skeptical.

Great job to Wes this year on predicting the garbage that we got. I've never seen a more unbiased forecaster than Wes, and I'm glad we have him in this region to keep us all level... well as level as I guess we could expect with the personalities around here. Anyway, hope next winter is decent, but it's time for me to get on out there and enjoy spring/summer/fall. I'll be back next December to enjoy tracking the fantasies while hoping for those fantasies to become reality. It's a humbling hobby for sure. This storm humbled some of the absolute best.

Thanks but except for this one there has been little drama as no event except for the Octover one out west has had much chance. This one did but we got unlucky.

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Thanks but except for this one there has been little drama as no event except for the Octover one out west has had much chance. This one did but we got unlucky.

Yeah. I was referring more to your skill over several years rather than this particular year. You seem to be the best at knowing when to pull the trigger and when to remain skeptical and cautious. Anyway, to better things next year!!

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What the heck is going on in the obs thread? That is some of the weirdest stuff I've ever seen here.

Great pics everyone. Too bad that storm couldn't have turned up the coast. I wish now that I'd have chased too. I have family in c- ville or I could have driven down to Wytheville or Blacksburg.

I think this has been one of the worst winters I remember on a national scale. Next year might not favor us, but I'll bet it isn't this bad on a scale this large.

BTW, did dt's disaster forecast end up busting low?

I agree, I will be 46 this year and do not remeber any lack of winter that covered the lower 48.

Also wonder (in the data bases out there) if the October snow that some of us had corilates to a late spring event?

I'd prefer no April surprise yet wonder what are the odds?

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Yeah. I was referring more to your skill over several years rather than this particular year. You seem to be the best at knowing when to pull the trigger and when to remain skeptical and cautious. Anyway, to better things next year!!

it should be that way, especially when you're getting paid to make a forecast. some of the mets out there are unprofessional. in most professions, they would be fired because they didn't do their job right. it's one thing to make a bold prediction, but some of them i feel are doing it for the attention which is pretty lame. but hey, i guess there are those people that continue to follow their forecasts so to each his own. i prefer to listen to objective forecasts and it's why i'm grateful for the nws (which we pay for). they aren't getting paid to entertain, they are getting paid to make a reliable forecast.

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I agree, I will be 46 this year and do not remeber any lack of winter that covered the lower 48.

Also wonder (in the data bases out there) if the October snow that some of us had corilates to a late spring event?

I'd prefer no April surprise yet wonder what are the odds?

It seems winter decided to plant roots on the other side of the globe this year. Alaska and much of Europe did fantastic this winter. Our time will come again.

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this will make ya all feel better LOL

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HONOLULU HI

932 AM HST MON FEB 20 2012

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THE BIG ISLAND SUMMITS...

HIZ028-210745-

/O.CAN.PHFO.WS.W.0001.000000T0000Z-120221T1900Z/

/O.NEW.PHFO.WW.Y.0001.120220T1932Z-120221T1900Z/

BIG ISLAND SUMMITS-

INCLUDING THE CITY OF...MAUNA LOA AND MAUNA KEA ABOVE 8000 FEET

932 AM HST MON FEB 20 2012

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM HST TUESDAY...

...WINTER STORM WARNING IS CANCELLED...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HONOLULU HAS ISSUED A WINTER

WEATHER ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM HST TUESDAY. THE

WINTER STORM WARNING HAS BEEN CANCELLED.

* LOCATIONS...BIG ISLAND SUMMITS.

* HAZARD TYPES...PERIODS OF FREEZING RAIN AND SNOW.

* TIMING...THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING.

* IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS LEADING TO ROAD CLOSURES.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW...SLEET...OR

FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR

SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE

DRIVING.

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Ton of meltage today! I'd say 2 inches left most places.

Snow today, gone tomorrow.

I'd love another event- but considering we about maxed out this event-- had the largest total for an actual city( 8.1) -- If we "engage spring", I'm OK. My snow need has been satisfied. 2 .2 in an hour, another 2 hours with a little over 1 inch an hour-- great storm.

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Yep, still there. Previous panel shows light overrunning. Not sure if it's snow though. This is the most supressed look so far. Kinda interesting too because the gfs has been showing this for days now in various forms. Book it!!

Beautiful look. Just need a north trend now. Might be a record snowfall for the day!

:lol:

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