MidlothianWX Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Let's just all chill, like Bob does all day. Let's just make jokes minus the beastiality and have fun, we are starting to fight like they do in the NE subforum. The NE subforum is terrible. Tip basically told me I live in the deep south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 imo this is kinda weenie. i know it's a common sentiment but why even discuss precip outside of 72 hours then either? I was a total green and probably annoying weenie at eastern but I did read the manual and followed the path to become a semi-successful weenie. People can save themselves alot of troubly by follow this simple analysis roadmap during marginal events: precip > 850 temps > 2m temps > accum snow Don't talk about or analyze anything on a model without having the first or previous step on the table. Right now we have no precip. ALL focus should be on precip. Once we have that then we can move to the next step. The latest gfs is super easy using this roadmap: lots of precip > too warm > way too warm > not a chance in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The NE subforum is terrible. Tip basically told me I live in the deep south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The NE subforum is terrible. Tip basically told me I live in the deep south. Geography is not his strong point, even the worst of our fights are like love taps in the NE forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 This. The weenie-smasher brigade has gotten way more annoying than the weenies in the past 7-10 days, IMO. Suddenly, unless a weenie posts some sort of preemptive mea culpa about how terrible model X is (NAM, GFS, GEFS, DGEX, UKMET, GGEM, etc...), the weenie-smashers have to spend 3 threads of banter attacking said weenie with ad nauseum repitition until futility is reached. I'm all for keeping the signal to noise ratio fairly high in the model discussion threads, but since they are MODEL discussion threads, people should be allowed to post MODELs without fear of retribution. That's a good name. Weenie Smasher BrigadeTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 ahem, ive been very good this week... id just like to say. Yeah, you backed off in the last few days. But plenty of others have risen to the occasion. Maybe people are just pissy from the lack of winter, but there's to much damn drama on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris87 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 what is the value of bad or incorrect information, even in a banter thread? if it's of no value, don't engage it....if certain posters were ignore...they'd largely go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 seems kinda silly considering the strong precedent established for weak, uneventful storms this winter. Bump. Yes, this. Makes the anemic precip shield as modeled most recently on the Euro all too believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 ahem, ive been very good this week... id just like to say. agreed. I tried too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 what is the value of bad or incorrect information, even in a banter thread? that's like asking: what's the value of garbage, even in a dumpster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 ahem, ive been very good this week... id just like to say. Good grief!!1!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 that's like asking: what's the value of garbage, even in a dumpster? Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The NE subforum is terrible. Tip basically told me I live in the deep south. Tip isn't all bad. Ask Phinneas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Tip isn't all bad. Ask Phinneas. He's always been cocky about his climo and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The NE subforum is terrible. Tip basically told me I live in the deep south. Did he say it like this though? "With the PNA already in a positive mode (albeit modestly), the emergence of the powerful Phase 7 MJO fits better with that than when the PNA averages positive while the Phase is over in that fun-kill Phase 4 region. These kind of uber strength western Pacific waves usually send a shock wave down stream that gets the roulette wheel spinning on R-wave spacing; as we know, statistically that usually results in a western ridge/eastern trough scenario. Now, put that on-top of an on-going +PNA, and you should wind up with static positive anomaly in amplitude (N S flow) over N/A. But you, MidlothianWx, would not understand this because of the geopotential medium and decending latitude of your specific geographic location places you firmly in the grips of deep lower latitude uncertainty so go ahead and catch the latest re-run of The Dukes of Hazard and enjoy your Evan Williams and Skoal tea on ice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris87 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 that's never been the pattern in cases like that. very true it won't work with everyone...but a little patience with certain people may go a long way...or maybe engaging someone like you would a human being? or i suggest a weenie-basher-in-charge who is tasked with making other weenies feel stupid whenever they post something against the code of ethics...it'd at least be an improvement over five people bashing someone for the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yeah, you backed off in the last few days. But plenty of others have risen to the occasion. Maybe people are just pissy from the lack of winter, but there's to much damn drama on here. Cool Good grief!!1!!... Hey! I'm just making sure people notice I listen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Did he say it like this though? "With the PNA already in a positive mode (albeit modestly), the emergence of the powerful Phase 7 MJO fits better with that than when the PNA averages positive while the Phase is over in that fun-kill Phase 4 region. These kind of uber strength western Pacific waves usually send a shock wave down stream that gets the roulette wheel spinning on R-wave spacing; as we know, statistically that usually results in a western ridge/eastern trough scenario. Now, put that on-top of an on-going +PNA, and you should wind up with static positive anomaly in amplitude (N S flow) over N/A. But you, MidlothianWx, would not understand this because of the geopotential medium and decending latitude of your specific geographic location places you firmly in the grips of deep lower latitude uncertainty so go ahead and catch the latest re-run of The Dukes of Hazard and enjoy your Evan Williams and Skoal tea on ice." omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillzPirate Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The NE subforum is terrible. Tip basically told me I live in the deep south. people from the NE refer to NC as the deep south all the time and I just go with it because I then realize they have never seen a map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 tip thinks we have palm trees here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 one issue is just that there are posters who refuse to look at any negatives.. it's a constant stream of how things can go right bolstered by references to individual members of the gfs. most of these folks are very easy to identify if you read the board more than 3 times a week. it's fine and dandy but a lot of it is totally useless. There are some posters like that, but I think there are relatively few. Again, IMO, models should be open to discussion in the model thread. Every post shouldn't need to be caveated with "of course this will never happen" or "model X is a sh!t model". Similarly, each post of model X needn't be responded to by the weenie-smashers with "model X is a sh!t model". I think that talk is pretty useless as well because most of the posters, in our subregion at least, are pretty familiar with Mid-Atlantic climo and the general strengths and weaknesses of the commonly referenced models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillzPirate Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 tip thinks we have palm trees here I found it hilarious growing up in Raleigh on a lake when the northern transplants would come down and build a house and plop a palm tree in there yard and be astonished that it died during winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 That's a good name. Weenie Smasher BrigadeTM You can use it, but I get royalties for every use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 In the NE forum, someone referenced the RUC in their current discussion of models. The weenies in our region (me included) are slacking, frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 this winter has been amazing. JB has been calling for pattern change since December and were still waiting It changed - from horrific to merely bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 JB has been uncharacteristically silent today, no tweets since 8:30 this morning. He probably does not know what the hell is going to happen either and he is to scared to keep saying the East coast will get slammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 kenny is tireless in his attempt to nicely get people to stop being stupid. he's generally unsuccessful. and he was weenie-tagged within a few weeks of his debut on this forum, so he's a good barometer to heed. and no one is upset about someone new who comes in and posts a few nonsense posts, who quickly realizes he needs to read more and post less. the issue is almost always a long term member with a history of constantly posting nonsense. Oh the days of Eastern lol. I fear that WxUSAF might be referring to me (maybe not though). I always try to interject only when I really have a strong opinion and even then I try to do it nicely. Unfortunately people misread sometimes. Thanks for the words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 JB has been uncharacteristically silent today, no tweets since 8:30 this morning. he probably does not know what the hell is going to happen either and he is to scared to keep saying the East coast will get slammed. He is still trying to post DGEX snow maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 He is still trying to post DGEX snow maps That was the funniest tweet of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I found it hilarious growing up in Raleigh on a lake when the northern transplants would come down and build a house and plop a palm tree in there yard and be astonished that it died during winter Depends on the palm tree. Chinese windmill palms, wooly jelly palms and some others are cold hardy down to 5 degrees. Two reasons why people don't grow them in Virginia: don't realize there are varieties that will grow, and they look lousy in winter when the fronds die back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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