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Valentine's day 2012 system


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how is it only the southwest mtns of nc are in a winter weather adv.? why isn't the rest of the nc mtns. under a winter weather adv. or are they waiting until this afternoon to get a better look at the system?

can't believe if some of the mtns are under adv. for slick roads in the morning all of the mtns i would think would have slick roads tomorrow morning
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Was just posting about it in the above post actually sticking to roofs cars here in cleveland right north of greenville

Thanks. Keep us updated with reports. As expected a heavier band of precip is streaming out in advance of forecast. If this band holds together I expect this would move across all of north central Miss and into NW Alabama by lunch time which would be well above schedule..Will have to watch and see. I think the chance for frz. rain will also increase this afternoon across nrn miss. with temps wetbulbing below freezing most likely.

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As expected, looks like some areas will see this kick off earlier than forecast. Looks like if this band holds together over North Central Mississippi moving into NE Mississippi into NW Alabama by lunchtime things could get kicked off. Already overcast in Florence and 28 with dewpoint in the mid teens. Def. think those MOS number forecast from today at least in the Western Tennessee Valley are going to bust. Shocker right?

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how is it only the southwest mtns of nc are in a winter weather adv.? why isn't the rest of the nc mtns. under a winter weather adv. or are they waiting until this afternoon to get a better look at the system?

can't believe if some of the mtns are under adv. for slick roads in the morning all of the mtns i would think would have slick roads tomorrow morning

.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY/...

AS OF 345 AM MONDAY...SHORT WAVE CROSSES THE AREA TUE WITH DECENT

FORCING. THERE IS SOME UPPER DIVERGENCE AS A JET STREAK MOVES OVER

AS WELL. LOW LEVEL FLOW IS SLY AS A WEAK SFC FRONT/LOW PRESSURE AREA

MOVES THRU BRINGING DECENT ISENTROPIC LIFT AS WELL. TEMPS...

THICKNESSES...AND FCST SOUNDINGS SUGGEST A WINTRY MIX LATE TONIGHT

EARLY TUE AS PRECIP MOVES IN. A REAL MIXED BAG WILL DEVELOP AS SNOW

AND SLEET FALL EARLY THEN FREEZING RAIN TO RAIN AS WARM NOSE THEN

LOW LEVEL WARMING MOVES IN. BEST CHANCE FOR SIGNIFICANT ACCUMS WILL

BE ACROSS THE SWRN NC MTNS AND NE GA MTNS WHERE THE BEST COMBINATION

OF COLD AIR...QPF AND DURATION DEVELOP. EVEN THERE...ANY WINTRY

PRECIP WILL BE LIGHT. HOWEVER...WITH THE COMBINATION OF P-TYPES A

WINTER WX ADV WILL BE NEEDED. ELSEWHERE...THE PRECIP WILL BE LIGHT

ENUF OR WINTRY PRECIP BRIEF ENUF THAT NO SIGNIFICANT ACCUMS ARE

EXPECTED. THAT SAID...WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE A BAND OF SLEET

MOVE ACROSS THE AREA AS PRECIP DEVELOPS...WHICH OFTEN OCCURS DURING

THE WINTER AS PRECIP MOVES IN. EXPECT ALL RAIN FOR THE AFTERNOON

WITH HIGHS NEAR TO A LITTLE BELOW NORMAL.

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Posting from my droid....12z looks good for north GA. Nice vertical velocities. Still thinking a finger band will streak out and give someone in GA a surprise greater than 2". Too bad im going to miss this. In orlando at disney.

Well that sucks about you not being here. I don't know if anyone will get 2 inches or not (save higher elevations...although 850mb temps/warm advection doesn't really show them having any better shot of snow than lower elevations) but the 12z nam is certainly encouraging for a quick hit of snow/sleet..and composite radar is impressive. Maybe 2 inches isn't out of the question but I would say an inch is possible across virtually anywhere in north ga. Still not sure about any freezing rain, except areas around the 925mb level. But temps/wetbulbs are very close to supporting it so if the models are off by just a little, we will get a little bit before going over to rain.

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Well that sucks about you not being here. I don't know if anyone will get 2 inches or not (save higher elevations...although 850mb temps/warm advectioni doesn't really show them having any better shot of snow than lower elevations) but the 12z nam is certainly encouraging for a quick hit of snow/sleet..and composite radar is impressive. Maybe 2 inches isn't out of the question but I would say an inch is possible across virtually anywhere in north ga. Still not sure about any freezing rain, except areas around the 925mb level. But temps/wetbulbs are very close to supporting it so if the models are off by just a little, we will get a little bit before going over to rain.

If there is no streaker band in GA by 8-9pm then I too think it will be difficult for anyone to get 2+ outside the highest elevations.

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If there is no streaker band in GA by 8-9pm then I too think it will be difficult for anyone to get 2+ outside the highest elevations.

that does suck that you are out of town. looking for maybe 1/2 inch of sloppy slush....would love to see a feeder band but not expecting a good one or anything at this point. checking the RUC and now casting - pathetic that we are looking at whats normally a near non event as the possible biggest of the season (biggest being said sarcastically)

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BMX update:

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BIRMINGHAM AL

1010 AM CST MON FEB 13 2012

.UPDATE...

MORNING FORECAST UPDATE.

&&

.DISCUSSION...

QUITE A MIXTURE OF PRECIPITATION TYPES GOING ON THIS MORNING BACK TO

OUR WEST. BASED ON SURFACE OBSERVATIONS...SATELLITE...AND RADAR...

WILL MAKE THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO TODAY'S FORECAST...

- BUMP POPS UP INTO THE CHANCE CATEGORY IN THE WEST CENTRAL ZONES...

AND EXPAND THE SLIGHT CHANCE POPS A BIT EASTWARD.

- NUDGE THE AREA OF IP MIXED WITH THE RAIN FARTHER SOUTH AND EAST.

- PUSH THE START TIME OF THE PRECIP UP TO NOON.

- TWEAK HOURLY TEMPS (BUT LIKELY LEAVE HIGHS AS IS).

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I have found it intriguing how the 12Z runs of the models the past several days have been warmer than the 00Z runs- it hs happened again this AM with no model suggesting much if any snow anythere in the AL/GA/SC zone.

last year this would be pretty much a non event lol. still not overly optimistic and i noticed the lack of much frozen precip as well. i am basically in now cast. watching temps and dewpoint and then the radar. 43 with a dewpoint of 15 (down from 17 earlier this morning). probably wishful thinking but hopefully we can eek out a few flakes before the cold rain commences

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last year this would be pretty much a non event lol. still not overly optimistic and i noticed the lack of much frozen precip as well. i am basically in now cast. watching temps and dewpoint and then the radar. 43 with a dewpoint of 15 (down from 17 earlier this morning). probably wishful thinking but hopefully we can eek out a few flakes before the cold rain commences

If anything frozen falls outside the mountains (even they won't have much in the way of snowflakes imo) in Georgia I think it will be some sleet. I don't like the look of the RUC it does not bode well for north Georgia.

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If anything frozen falls outside the mountains (even they won't have much in the way of snowflakes imo) in Georgia I think it will be some sleet. I don't like the look of the RUC it does not bode well for north Georgia.

Haven't looked at this in detail, but the one caution I would put out is with respect to the RUC - I've seen numerous times where it was too warm with 850mb temps. Looking at 06z tonight, the GFS and NAM are both colder than the RUC. Would be curious to hear other opinions on this.

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Not a cloud in the sky in columbia and warming up fast. Oh well

Todays temp doesn't really matter. If something frozen falls around CAE it will be the wee- morning hours into the early AM. There were reports of 40F+ areas receiving frozen precip last night due to the evaporational cooling effects in the atmosphere.

Anyway, the Hi-Res NAM is a little more dense with the moisture this morning on 12z especially in the GA area. The band basically "splits" and heads due south of the CAE metro area though and southward once it reaches SC. It also supports a brief snow/sleet/mix for the far North Georgia areas before switching to rain. The majority of SC looks to be around .10 QPF and around .25-.50 for the NGA area. (keep it mind it wouldn't all be snow before waa kicks in)

This event is basically shaping up to be something nice to look at the sky for in a few areas especially NGA. Not much more than that in my opinion. Stranger things have happened though!

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