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Feb 11/12 Storm Disco II


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NAM not as nice as 12z, but following every run of the NAM is asking for a bottle of Peptol Bismol to be downed by 12z tomorrow.

In the end at 6h it caved to the othe guidance in being faster. It then did the normal dampening out beyond about 12-18, but the move at 0h and 6/12h (from the 12z) is very telling. Toss the 12z NAM.

Solutions may vary on either side of the envelope and of course things could change, but the 12z NAM had some serious issues and has zero support, not even from itself now.

EDIT: We can always see further placement issues at init creep up, there's still one other little s/w that barely shows on the maps that does seem to be in play here...coming across TX/Mexico...but whether that has any potential influence who knows.

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Too bad we're on the outside looking in ....Weird La Nina winter to have three decent hits (if this happens) in SNE and no major synoptic event for Upstate NY.

Looks the mean trough is deeper as a result of better northern stream energy...but more broad...so it's closer in but not as intense...the lead shortwave is weaker.

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Hey, now. That's from 6AM this morning. Bouchard is just getting to work now. Let's see if he bites...usually he's extremely conservative or overly generous. We'll see....

Fair enough. I suspect he will bite. That was also from dryer who is a traditional warminsta.

12z gfs bufkit gave ORH 4.0"

12z nam bufkit gave ORH 9.9"

12z gfs bufkit gave BOS 1.9" (warm)

12z nam bufkit gave BOS 12.6" :lmao:

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Looks the mean trough is deeper as a result of better northern stream energy...but more broad...so it's closer in but not as intense...the lead shortwave is weaker.

To me anyway the big red flag even on the 18z is the lack of consistency and speed shift towards all the other models indicating it's catching up. Usually that's a dead giveaway it's having some issues. It didn't trend towards a stronger/nw surface low which also is a hint to me that the 12z solution was likely at least partially influenced by some form of feedback...which is what it looked like at the time.

Very dynamic situation and there is one poorly sampled impulse coming across Mexico that may have some role in all of this, but NCEP went the right way in disregarding the NAM for the most part.

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