Chris L Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Will we ever track one of these rare, rare beauties in our lifetime? I think yes, espeically if we get El Nino. What I want to see is every station break their snow records with the same blizzard. January 1996 came very close, IMO. For this to happen: Every Station from DC-BOS has to get above 30". for PHL has to be above 31". PD II also came close to being a NESIS 5, but it didn't hit the South that hard like it did with 1996. Forget March '93, that's way too rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 The monster early Feb storm in 2010 could have been a NESIS 5 had it spread up the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 The monster early Feb storm in 2010 could have been a NESIS 5 had it spread up the coast. without a doubt.... Which leads be some hope that we will track one someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 there is only one superstorm gone forever, rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 there is only one superstorm gone forever, rest in peace. Which is why I said that would be too hard and rare to do... It's much easier to get a Jan 96 or Feb 5 2010 type storm than March 93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Which is why I said that would be too hard and rare to do... It's much easier to get a Jan 96 or Feb 5 2010 type storm than March 93. 1996 was a 5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 1996 was a 5... yes, but its "easier" to get that type a storm than having a triple phaser and give 10-20" and plus of snow in 26 states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 What about a March 1993 type storm which is a bit further offshore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 Fozz, that would do it. But too hard to get... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 The monster early Feb storm in 2010 could have been a NESIS 5 had it spread up the coast. Ejhh... The slow moving nature of that with the insane cut off skewed big Time totals to Philly region. If it had been more progressive, maybe a bit more widespread, but would we have seen the same amounts? Hard to say... 1996 was a rare beauty ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Fozz, that would do it. But too hard to get... So is any type of widespread 30"+ storm for I-95. There are issues of compacting, duration, snowfall rates, and ratios which make such a storm extremely difficult.......I mean, with normal 10:1 ratios, we're talking a widespread 3"+ of liquid in all the cities. How often does that even happen with rainstorms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfsheepsheadbay Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Will we ever track one of these rare, rare beauties in our lifetime? I think yes, espeically if we get El Nino. What I want to see is every station break their snow records with the same blizzard. January 1996 came very close, IMO. For this to happen: Every Station from DC-BOS has to get above 30". for PHL has to be above 31". PD II also came close to being a NESIS 5, but it didn't hit the South that hard like it did with 1996. Forget March '93, that's way too rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Fozz, that would do it. But too hard to get... We'll probably see several storms in our lifetimes that try to dethrone 93, and will by many standards. If these things were "easy" to get, they wouldn't be any fun. As far as I'm concerned, the sky's the limit with any type of storm... the atmosphere breeds, and requires, violence and hostility, and therefore will eventually find ways to spawn intense systems. If you think about it, 93, 96, 2003 and 2010's multi-blizzards all occurred within a relatively short period of time, so it's not like Cat 5-caliber storms are a 100 or 500-year event. Who knows, it might be a post-tropical hurricane in late November that stalls over a frigid air mass, it might be another triple phaser, or it might be a double- or triple-barrel low that NCDC counts as one storm. We'll see plenty of Cat 5-type storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 funny how? I don't get what is so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Even if March 93 had gone 100 miles more to the east and taken all the heaviest amounts that were over the interior and transferred them to the I-95 corridor I still don't know if we would have seen widespread 30"+ amounts. Again 96/2003 were both long duration events with extremely cold temperatures and both only saw isolated amounts in that range. I think alot of coastal locations lost alot of accumulation to rain in 1888. Even if we had a '78 situation where the storm stalled off the coast, it would likely favor areas in a DC to NYC swatch or from NYC to Boston but not the entire megalopolis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 93 is so rare and would not expect that to happen for another 100 years. 96 was alot more intense and more of an impact for the northeastern folks like us. That is feasible for it to happen again and us get to track something like that again but it takes alot of things to go right to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 We'll probably see several storms in our lifetimes that try to dethrone 93, and will by many standards. If these things were "easy" to get, they wouldn't be any fun. As far as I'm concerned, the sky's the limit with any type of storm... the atmosphere breeds, and requires, violence and hostility, and therefore will eventually find ways to spawn intense systems. If you think about it, 93, 96, 2003 and 2010's multi-blizzards all occurred within a relatively short period of time, so it's not like Cat 5-caliber storms are a 100 or 500-year event. Who knows, it might be a post-tropical hurricane in late November that stalls over a frigid air mass, it might be another triple phaser, or it might be a double- or triple-barrel low that NCDC counts as one storm. We'll see plenty of Cat 5-type storms. agree...we've had alot of big storms over the past couple decades and while our planet warms, storms become fiercer. i see interior Superstorm totals in the big cities within the next two decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 93 Superstorm is tough to beat. First time I witnessed hurricane force gusts (100 miles inland) in a snowstorm. Just not very common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 What I find most interesting is storms rarely take tracks like that. Either they cut up near the lakes or they stay offshore. The 93 storm came right up the coast just inland, as I believe Dec 92 did as well and the March 94 noreaster that also buried interior locations with 2-3 feet. agree...we've had alot of big storms over the past couple decades and while our planet warms, storms become fiercer. i see interior Superstorm totals in the big cities within the next two decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Ejhh... The slow moving nature of that with the insane cut off skewed big Time totals to Philly region. If it had been more progressive, maybe a bit more widespread, but would we have seen the same amounts? Hard to say... 1996 was a rare beauty ! Even than snowfall totals would have easily been 2 feet+, the tropical feed from that storm was unbelievable and it was the amount of moisture within that massive storm that was able to produce those prolific amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I still think 1888 is the gold standard. If we can get another low to pull a nice cyclonic loop possibly earlier in the season yielding less front end rain we should be good to go. It really seems like its duration that is required to really top 30 inches. March 13/14th 10 produced some incredible amounts over the highest terrain of the Catskills. The peaks were still snow covered even after the super torch that followed. I was at Kilington that weekend boarding and watched them loose feet of snow pack only to drive home and see the Catskills high peeks still bright white, so they must have had over 50 inches during that storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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