NorEaster27 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Yeah, Tim Kelley and I were just discussing that on the lift... the MOS guidance really isn't reflecting just how cold of an airmass that could be. This weekend could be just a brutal cold, windy, dry weekend if you are north of that arctic front. Lapse rates look pretty steep from SFC to H85 and that means orographic snow showers and squalls. maybe some LES on WSW flow out ahead of artic front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Gotta love Roth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston-winter08 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 12z GGEM looks like the euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 12z GGEM looks like the euro Too little too late but better looking than GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I'm curious to see what the Euro does here in a little bit. I think people are throwing this away a little too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 http://www.weatherof...ast/235_100.gif panel before the one above http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/model_forecast/234_100.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Pretty comical reading the wishcasting in this thread from some posters about this week and weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Pretty comical reading the wishcasting in this thread from some posters about this week and weekend I think there is still some incredulousness that we are not getting snow....and an unstated expectation that it will snow. I admit to being in this mental state myself. I just expect that suddenly a snow storm or two are going to show up inside 4 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Everyone relax, Kevin's guy is forecasting 1-3 from dc to bos tomorrow/tom night (riding the JMA),and 0 degrees for nyc monday morning, snows this weekend, gfs has it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I think there is still some incredulousness that we are not getting snow....and an unstated expectation that it will snow. I admit to being in this mental state myself. I just expect that suddenly a snow storm or two are going to show up inside 4 days. Well, All i am seeing is that i am going below zero a couple nights this weekend with a fropa unless we get some other model guidance showing otherwise here very soon besides the euro as it had showed some lt snow on saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Too little too late but better looking than GFS. And better looking than the GGEM 00z run last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Nice ENY special later next week..classic Miller A look. Too bad I'll be in FL, but I'd still enjoy tracking it vicariously. Well the PV is setting up confluence as a s/w moves out of the southwest, so we'll see what it does down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 i will welcome any winter storm & snow that wants to get here with open arms...but i have to admit i'm getting close - not there yet...just starting to sense it - to just wanting to fast forward to spring and warmer weather. this is all too boring. 44F and storm-less...which seems to have been the weather for an eternity now...is getting very old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Nice ENY special later next week..classic Miller A look. Too bad I'll be in FL, but I'd still enjoy tracking it vicariously. all you and powderfreak ever do is post about ENY and WVT specials and getting snow to linger in ENY/VT. all we ask is you include all of us in your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 i will welcome any winter storm & snow that wants to get here with open arms...but i have to admit i'm getting close - not there yet...just starting to sense it - to just wanting to fast forward to spring and warmer weather. this is all too boring. 44F and storm-less...which seems to have been the weather for an eternity now...is getting very old. We are in a crap pattern. Despite things here and there looking more favorable, some of the key factors remain to help stick it to us. Sure a fluke can show up, but it's just not a great pattern right now. Of course I'll always check out models because I know how things can suddenly appear if timing is right, but it's just not a great pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 12z GGEM looks like the euro But the GFS rules..ask anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 all you and powderfreak ever do is post about ENY and WVT specials and getting snow to linger in ENY/VT. all we ask is you include all of us in your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 with zero clippers this year and zero noreaster's...Miller A or B, I'd be hestitant to think we'd see one at this point, despite the "pattern change" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 We are in a crap pattern. Despite things here and there looking more favorable, some of the key factors remain to help stick it to us. Sure a fluke can show up, but it's just not a great pattern right now. Of course I'll always check out models because I know how things can suddenly appear if timing is right, but it's just not a great pattern. yep. the atmosphere does what it wants to do. obviously there's a degree of bad luck in there, but as a whole we are just stuck in a bad set-up. happens every so often. i'm still hopeful we can pull something out at some point before 4/1 but clearly the clock is starting to tick. what's starting to bother me is how much we are starting to feel the lack of conus snowcover affecting air masses. it almost seems like mid or late march the way these relatively cold (not yesterday/today) air masses aloft are yielding AOA daytime temps. bleh. oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Euro should come in with a nice solid 2-4 inch stripe in most if not all of SNE Saturday-Sat nite and it will probably linger in Eastern MA all weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Euro should come in with a nice solid 2-4 inch stripe in most if not all of SNE Saturday-Sat nite and it will probably linger in Eastern MA all weekend Why do you say that? Do you have scientific reasons why it should? Or is it the weenie in you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Much more so PF than me this winter.... He posts the pics of all the snow in Stowe regularly, but I don't mind it because at least I get to see snow somewhere.... Sometimes I'm responding to MPM, Pete, etc. who are neighbors and have similar wx. all you and powderfreak ever do is post about ENY and WVT specials and getting snow to linger in ENY/VT. all we ask is you include all of us in your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Why do you say that? Do you have scientific reasons why it should? Or is it the weenie in you? There's always a weenie in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Much more so PF than me this winter.... He posts the pics of all the snow in Stowe regularly, but I don't mind it because at least I get to see snow somewhere.... lol...wooooooshhhh. no worries...you can talk about snow in your backyard as much as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Much more so PF than me this winter.... He posts the pics of all the snow in Stowe regularly, but I don't mind it because at least I get to see snow somewhere.... Sometimes I'm responding to MPM, Pete, etc. who are neighbors and have similar wx. That was a joke BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Why do you say that? Do you have scientific reasons why it should? Or is it the weenie in you? Because the Euro ens mean from last night was pretty amped and juicy..which leads one to conjecture that the op will come in equally as juiced with the wave. It's how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 That was a joke BTW. that's always risky with Logan11...kind of had a feeling that wouldn't work out with him. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Because the Euro ens mean from last night was pretty amped and juicy..which leads one to conjecture that the op will come in equally as juiced with the wave. It's how it works It was not amped up and jiuicy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Piss poor winter makes for very fragile egos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 If the storm fails hopefully we can at least get some -25C 850s into NE MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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