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The Feb 10-12 storm threat, real or imagined?


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I dunno..For how long?

It might be for a day or two, but could be several days...it depends on what you call "mild"...there might be one torch day in there with 50s for some...hard to say for sure...but we could also get a day or two on each side that is above average but not a torch, like highs in the upper 30s or low 40s or something like that.

The behavior of the ridge out west and the PV to our northeast after it lifts out will play a big role and the models haven't been handling them well.

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FYI the disconnect with you misunderstanding my rooting on futility, yet ok with substantial 6"+ events is understandable.

If I'm not going to see a major event, then I'd rather set a record....you know, we are all here on this forum because we enjoy ANOMALOUS weather, which futility is...whether folks want to acknowledge it or not.

lol

I really must be on ignore for alot of people here... I made this exact plea multiple times (and even started a thread for it weeks ago), and while I track every threat, I've never, not once, waivered from this fascination this season...

Winter 2011-12 version of Patrick Henry: give me blockbuster, or give me futility record.

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I just don't get the obsession with the futility record...I like interesting weather...and I don't find 45 and sunny interesting. I do get it it from a meteorological perspective...but my futility record is somewhere around ~25" I'd guess (5" or so less then ORH) and I'd rather 25.1" then 24.9". The more snow the better.

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I really must be on ignore for alot of people here... I made this exact plea multiple times (and even started a thread for it weeks ago), and while I track every threat, I've never, not once, waivered from this fascination this season...

Winter 2011-12 version of Patrick Henry: give me blockbuster, or give me futility record.

Yes..,you have been on this from the beginning. Futility seems highly unlucky given that we're 1.2 away from exceeding it.

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I really must be on ignore for alot of people here... I made this exact plea multiple times (and even started a thread for it weeks ago), and while I track every threat, I've never, not once, waivered from this fascination this season...

Winter 2011-12 version of Patrick Henry: give me blockbuster, or give me futility record.

I read it and actually thought, man that's sorta of like rooting for a record drought, I mean really what a boring fascination with the menial. Sort of like rooting for your favorite team to lose every game. I just do not see anything remotely fascinating about beating a record that corresponds with absolute boring Meterology.

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Earlier this year we had a quote on the mid Atlantic forum, "This winter is interesting, interesting how boring it is"

I can understand rooting for a crappy winter and which I am proud to be rooting for right now. I just can't get satisfaction complaining about a winter that is pretty bad, but not the worst ever. People can say "Yeah well we got a little" and put a spear my ultrarant.

Don't get me wrong, if models agree on a KU storm 2 days out I'll be right back on board. I just can't cheer on a 2-4" event at this point.

And of course as with all my personal taste posts, In no way am my telling anyone else they have to agree with this. Feel free to jerk it over 1-3" all you want.

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I read it and actually thought, man that's sorta of like rooting for a record drought, I mean really what a boring fascination with the menial. Sort of like rooting for your favorite team to lose every game. I just do not see anything remotely fascinating about beating a record that corresponds with absolute boring Meterology.

I see the point of rooting for the record. If you had a choice between setting a new record that goes back to ??? vs missing the record by 4" of slop, you would choose the slop???Of course we always want the records at the other end, but this winter blows (so far) and maybe we can look back on it and say that it blew worse than any other (for BOS at least)

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I see the point of rooting for the record. If you had a choice between setting a new record that goes back to ??? vs missing the record by 4" of slop, you would choose the slop???Of course we always want the records at the other end, but this winter blows (so far) and maybe we can look back on it and say that it blew worse than any other (for BOS at least)

Who cares if it blows by a half inch or ten inches it still blows. My wish is those who wish for it get it. Another south coast scraper with a 6-12 death band would be perfect.

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I see the point of rooting for the record. If you had a choice between setting a new record that goes back to ??? vs missing the record by 4" of slop, you would choose the slop???Of course we always want the records at the other end, but this winter blows (so far) and maybe we can look back on it and say that it blew worse than any other (for BOS at least)

I wouldn't want the futility record. As a snow enthusiast...I personally would feel like I'd be rooting for my baseball team to get no hit....so even if the score is 10-0 in the 9th inning, I'm rooting for an ugly bloop single to break up the no hitter.

If I was challenging the futility record, I'd root for a wet 4" of paste in April to prevent it. I know others feel differently, but that is the way I feel about it.

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I wouldn't want the futility record. As a snow enthusiast...I personally would feel like I'd be rooting for my baseball team to get no hit....so even if the score is 10-0 in the 9th inning, I'm rooting for an ugly bloop single to break up the no hitter.

If I was challenging the futility record, I'd root for a wet 4" of paste in April to prevent it. I know others feel differently, but that is the way I feel about it.

Exactly my sentiments. Snow lovers are snow lovers not futility lovers.

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Exactly my sentiments. Snow lovers are snow lovers not futility lovers.

But in a year with no snow, and few opportunities on the horizon it'd be nice if this is historic if it's going to continue as a stinker. I get what they're saying.

You and Jerry look back fondly at some of these older winters.....in 30 years if Boston busts the record it'd be cool to tell the grandkids "there was a year it never really snowed"....

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But in a year with no snow, and few opportunities on the horizon it'd be nice if this is historic if it's going to continue as a stinker. I get what they're saying.

You and Jerry look back fondly at some of these older winters.....in 30 years if Boston busts the record it'd be cool to tell the grandkids "there was a year it never really snowed"....

Too late for me for that, 79/80. I had more in one week in Jan then that winter but there is no bragging or memories related to that winter. I can not remember it at all only from my records, historic means squat so if there is no emotional, physical memory.

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I hear you, and I understand both sides.

I guess it's fascination with the extremeness of the anomaly: the chance of experiencing something that never has happened and never again will happen in our lives.

Don't get me wrong: I lose sleep over modelology, trek out into the heart of the storm, archive model runs and capture videos like the best of 'em. I stayed up all night to capture thundersnow last January 2011. And you saw my videos of January 2005. And I was in heaven when we got a mere 3" of powder a few weeks ago.

But still... this is not just a "shutout of our home team"... this is on the scale of something that hasn't happened in decades at least, potentially over a century since records have been kept. That is fascinating.

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Too late for me for that, 79/80. I had more in one week in Jan then that winter but there is no bragging or memories related to that winter. I can not remember it at all only from my records, historic means squat so if there is no emotional, physical memory.

Yeah the futility record wouldn't really change the "type" of winter it is versus a winter like say '88-'89 or '79-'80 (for here...I know some areas actually got their record that year)...I experienced '88-'89 and '94-'95...both top 5 least snowiest seasons here and they royally sucked. Experiencing another season just like it except a little less snow is just a slightly suckier version of that already horrific winter. It does me nothing.

I'd root for a random 8" snowbomb on March 25th to have a decent storm to enjoy over getting the futility record...as if it would bring this great sense of accomplishment having experienced it. As a snow lover, I feel more blessed to experience an 8" paste storm on March 25th instead of the futility record.

But again, we all have our differing opinions...some of us are a bit more snow nuts than others.

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00z nam is not flurries. Looks like 2-3" for BWI this run taken verbatim...lol. :o

Might be some flurries for us.

The vortmax was actually more amped up this run than previous runs..it totally blows the thing up SE of ACK...too bad its a bit too late for us. That was a bit of potential there, but in the winter of Murphy's Law, those just don't seem to work out...last winter, those are the type that give you a 8" fluff bomb on Jan 21.

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The vortmax was actually more amped up this run than previous runs..it totally blows the thing up SE of ACK...too bad its a bit too late for us. That was a bit of potential there, but in the winter of Murphy's Law, those just don't seem to work out...last winter, those are the type that give you a 8" fluff bomb on Jan 21.

Any chance that gets tucked in NW - closer towards the NE coast? Is the PV in Hudson Bay preventing this from digging more - creating a more progressive flow?

We should probably still monitor it for any subtle changes that could yield significant changes to sensible wx.

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But in a year with no snow, and few opportunities on the horizon it'd be nice if this is historic if it's going to continue as a stinker. I get what they're saying.

You and Jerry look back fondly at some of these older winters.....in 30 years if Boston busts the record it'd be cool to tell the grandkids "there was a year it never really snowed"....

you're back to weather!

for those who don't know... messenger bless his soul was under heavy, heavy fire for proposing the unmentionable in the sports thread earlier today.

re: futility records, i did not mean to create such a distraction with that post... let's drop it.

here's to hoping we see a surprise phase-tastic blockbuster miller B bomb out feb 10-12th and all of this is moot.

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you're back to weather!

for those who don't know... messenger bless his soul was under heavy, heavy fire for proposing the unmentionable in the sports thread earlier today.

re: futility records, i did not mean to create such a distraction with that post... let's drop it.

here's to hoping we see a surprise phase-tastic blockbuster miller B bomb out feb 10-12th and all of this is moot.

I did not see it but 16-16 then dropped passes.......

No distraction either, it's as boring as ever.

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But in a year with no snow, and few opportunities on the horizon it'd be nice if this is historic if it's going to continue as a stinker. I get what they're saying.

You and Jerry look back fondly at some of these older winters.....in 30 years if Boston busts the record it'd be cool to tell the grandkids "there was a year it never really snowed"....

I tell my grandkids about 1959-60....till march.

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