ORH_wxman Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 whiff as in wide right, or whiff as in failure to produce any cyclogenesis Wide right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Wide right. Will is this a case of the pna ridge being not sharp enough being beat down by the pac, is the trough in the east not ampified enough, or the trough axis not in the correct spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Face it, this winter was over on October 30th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 LC with more PHAIL..you'd think he'd learn ECMWF Vs. GGEM And GFS Outlooks! Blocking Signals Look Real, So Best To Go (Cautiously) With Somewhat Colder Outcome East Of Continental Divide NRL NOAA/IMS NOAA/ESRL Environment Canada Penn State University Weather Server There remains a wide split between the European ensemble package and that of the Canadian and American equations. If you believe the ECMWF series, no storms and a cool West/warm East scenario will occur between February 15 and 19. The GGEM and GFS model suites, meanwhile, strongly support some measure of positive height anomalies in the -EPO, -AO, and -NAO positions. With a broad Arctic vortex drifting in and out of the Hudson Bay position, that would imply a mild pattern west of the Continental Divide and below normal temperatures from the Rocky Mountains into the western Atlantic Ocean. Since the NAEFS super-ensemble and winter 2011-2012 climatology (semizonal flow balanced between prominent flat ridges off of California and over the Azores) are in line with the ECMWF scenario, the idea of a mild turn in the middle and later part of February could well verify. However, the ongoing presence of a strong subtropical jet stream, huge/cold gyre over eastern Canada and the long-term duration of positive temperature anomalies over the U.S. (remember it has been very warm for a very LONG time across the nation, and that trend cannot last ad infinitum) tells me that colder result is likely outside of the West Coast in the longer term. I, along with some others, have been trying to talk sense into him on FB since like December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I hear ya on the clean car, Kev....pleasant. It's all about perspective......I think the long range looks great. The pattern right now sucks......it's unpleasant to be outside. It's not going to snow, so torch it.....sorry, but I don't care to be uncomfortable for the sake of seeing "PLENTY OF CHANCES" for Dendrite, the ORH hills and GC to see advisory events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 ..it's unpleasant to be outside. Lol, geezus move to Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Lol, geezus move to Florida. You want snow. Lol, geezus move to Alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 some 18z GFS fun ahead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 probably will get a weenie or five for this, but when we talk about looking for "a phase" with this storm, I think we are actually looking for a triple phaser There are three distinct waves in the equation ... the southern cutoff energy, the s/w diving down the east side of the western ridge, and the lobe off the PV in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 That would be sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 18Zmade a valiant effort. ..tho still offshore...except Phil who get a few inches. If that scenario ever worked out...it would be the first truly classic Miller A running the whole coast with snow from the deep south to NE in quite awhile.. Ahh nice fantasy.... probably will get a weenie or five for this, but when we talk about looking for "a phase" with this storm, I think we are actually looking for a triple phaser There are three distinct waves in the equation ... the southern cutoff energy, the s/w diving down the east side of the western ridge, and the lobe off the PV in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 18Zmade a valiant effort. ..tho still offshore...except Phil who get a few inches. If that scenario ever worked out...it would be the first truly classic Miller A running the whole coast with snow from the deep south to NE in quite awhile.. Ahh nice fantasy.... 18z GFS was closer ... or at least different lol Boxing Day 2010 was pretty classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'd take 2001-'02 over this and ask for seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'd take 2001-'02 over this and ask for seconds. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 LOL 20 more inches of snow and a SB victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bch2014 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 20 more inches of snow and a SB victory. Hahah I knew what you meant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 If you live in New England and are aware that sports exist and enjoy snow, riot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 If you live in New England and are aware that sports exist and enjoy snow, riot Looks like UMASS did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Gone. How can it be gone if it was never here? Later...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 If you live in New England and are aware that sports exist and enjoy snow, riot what a painful night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Looks like UMASS did that. Yeah, I saw. Plymouth is pretty quiet. Cops at every corner though. There's one street that apparently is covered in glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It appears Football and the weather are in cahoots -HAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Couple Noreasters on the GFS post 240 hours. It appears Football and the weather are in cahoots -HAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Is the EURO still alot of nothing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Is the EURO still alot of nothing.... The Raleighwx map has a 1017 mb "low" south of LI at hr 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yup, EURO continues pitching a shutout. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 At least it ends up closer to something than the 00z GFS. I wouldn't throw in the towel on this one until 00z Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 EURO and GFS actually in good agreement on keeping the Sunday event well OTS...couple more days and we can lock that up (out). Long range GFS has a system on Feb 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 At least it ends up closer to something than the 00z GFS. I wouldn't throw in the towel on this one until 00z Wednesday. I didn't look at H5 (I'm sure that looks promising), but they are similar at the surface. Maybe the EURO is P Sunny, as opposed to the cobalt blue skies depicted on the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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