Isotherm Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 More so though down in Atlantic, Cumberland and Cape May counties of NJ. They are almost always rain when most of us are snow. (historically speaking of course when it comes to the bigger storms) Obviously the past couple of years were an exception. Agree. Here are AC's totals since 2001 (far right value) 2001-2002 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.4 0.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.6 2002-2003 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5.5 3.6 33.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 42.3 2003-2004 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5.0 7.9 2.5 1.4 0.1 0.0 0.0 16.9 2004-2005 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 4.8 8.0 0.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 13.9 2005-2006 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 5.3 4.7 4.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 14.2 2006-2007 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.4 1.9 2.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.5 2007-2008 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.4 2.6 3.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.0 2008-2009 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.3 3.8 3.2 7.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 14.3 2009-2010 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.6 8.9 36.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 58.1 2010-2011 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 20.9 13.4 3.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 38.0 Cape May: 2001-2002 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.9 1.2 0.0 3.0 0.0 0.0 6.1 2002-2003 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.0 6.6 27.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 38.5 2003-2004 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.8 6.8 4.4 0.0 0.0 0.0c 0.0 13.0 2004-2005 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.3 3.9 4.9 0.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.9 2005-2006 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.3 0.8 3.3 0.1c 0.0 0.0 0.0 8.5 2006-2007 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.5 3.7 3.6 0.1 0.0 0.0 9.9 2007-2008 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.7 1.7 3.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.0 2008-2009 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.2 1.4 7.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.3 2009-2010 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.3 11.9 36.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 54.2 2010-2011 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 16.6 9.4P 4.4P 0.0P 0.0P 0.0P 0.0P 30.4P 2011-2012 0.0P 0.0P 0.0P 0.0b,P Versus New Brunswick: 2001-2002 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0a 0.0 0.0 4.0 0.1 1.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 5.5 2002-2003 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.3 11.2 5.4 28.4 0.4 5.4 0.0 0.0 51.1 2003-2004 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 17.2 10.3 0.2 9.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 37.1 2004-2005 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.6 16.8 10.9 8.5 0.0 0.0 0.0 37.8 2005-2006 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.9 1.1 20.7 0.0 0.3 0.0 0.0 32.0 2006-2007 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.3 1.8 5.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.7 2007-2008 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 2.5 0.6 6.4 0.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 9.9 2008-2009 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.5 0.0 3.1 7.3 4.8 6.2 0.0 0.0 0.0 22.9 2009-2010 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.2 1.9 37.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 51.5 2010-2011 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 19.5 31.2P 1.7P 1.5P 0.0P 0.0a,P 0.0P 53.9P IMBY in Monmouth, we've done very well. My totals: 01-02: 4" 02-03: 55" 03-04: 43" 04-05: 47" 05-06: 32" 06-07: 12" 07-08: 8" 08-09: 29.5" 09-10: 72" 10-11: 57.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 My parents heard on the news this morning that we should watch out for a cold and stormy pattern in mid February. I am not sure which channel they were watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter13 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 My parents heard on the news this morning that we should watch out for a cold and stormy pattern in mid February. I am not sure which channel they were watching. It was probly the metfan4life network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It was probly the metfan4life network. Actually it wasn't. Even some articles I saw last week in the news were saying how the pattern is going ot change lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I guess we have to talk about the weekend potential in this thread since John closed the other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I guess we have to talk about the weekend potential in this thread since John closed the other thread. start a weekend thread if you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I guess we have to talk about the weekend potential in this thread since John closed the other thread. You'd think the GEM showed a blockbuster with all the talk about how its more phased than the GFS... in fact I don't think any model shows more than 3" snowfall for NYC (and that's the JMA which shows that much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 You'd think the GEM showed a blockbuster with all the talk about how its more phased than the GFS... in fact I don't think any model shows more than 3" snowfall for NYC (and that's the JMA which shows that much). It's the difference between no snow and some snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Not one of the 18Z GFS ensemble members went south or east of where it was at 12Z, as a matter of fact all of them came north and the bottom 4 members the P007-P0010 all came markedly north. The worst news at 18Z came from the RGEM which I felt took a pronounced step towards the NAM but its still hard to tell where it would go beyond 48 hours. I would think this would still be unlikely to come far enough north to bring measurable snow much north of NYC but C-NJ has a shot to do pretty well with this if we can get any sort of phasing between the 2 disturbances, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I guess we have to talk about the weekend potential in this thread since John closed the other thread. i lol'd when i saw that because anyone who had hope for this weekend got shut down. The funny thing is it has been shut down for a while now and my call is any snow that does fall won't get north of philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 new thread for Feb 5th Potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I made a thread. First storm thread ever that I made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Bump for banter. Feb. 5th thread got derailed almost immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 It was probly the metfan4life network. Are you dense? all you do is root aganist cold and snow in the WINTER time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I made a thread. First storm thread ever that I made. LOL a storm threat for a storm that will deliver no QPF north of the Mason dixson line? :weenie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Very true statement. I believe that our luck changed with the March 1, 2009 storm and the last two winters were simply unbelieveable. We actually had snow over snow from 2 previous storms in Feb 2010. I never remember seeing that down here before. When I lived up in Mahwah back in 1994 I saw something like that, though. This area in Feb 2010 was really crippled and i did not have power nor heat for a week. Yup, and the 10/29/2011 storm was the indicator that our luck streak was coming to an end. That was the polar opposite of the March 2009 storm, which was a precursor to the upcoming 2 epic winters of 2009-2010 and 2010-2011. We will never see a repeat of the epic 2000-2010 decade for snowfall until the 2040s most likely according to this chart:P.S. - This post was mostly aimed to scare Metfan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I took a little attempt at weather comedy... may not be the best but there has to be some way to show the dissapointment of this disaster winter so far. One possible reason why winter failed to show up this year: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I took a little attempt at weather comedy... may not be the best but there has to be some way to show the dissapointment of this disaster winter so far. One possible reason why winter failed to show up this year: I laughed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Don't know if this was posted here, but saw it floating around FB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 You know what's funny about Stage 3. Technically those few inches we got in January was the bargaining for this horrible winter so we shouldn't be complaining at all. We should be happy we got something. Also, we should never hope for an early snowfall every again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Also, we should never hope for an early snowfall every again! Not going to lie, on the day of that October event these were the thoughts going through my head, "Oh boy, I wonder what this means for the winter, for some reason I remember a stat that showed a relationship between Oct snow accum and a clunker winter." Of course the Oct event didn't "cause" our bad winter, and there really isn't a correlation b/t the two, but still, if I had my choice -- hold off on the snow until December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Before giving up, please let the rest of the 00z suite play out. If there is no improvement tonight, then we likely don't get anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Does anyone know if permission is needed to post maps from the PSU E-Wall on a website (such as a blog) or can images be posted without approval? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Does anyone know if permission is needed to post maps from the PSU E-Wall on a website (such as a blog) or can images be posted without approval? I don't think you need permission, but I suspect credit would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I don't think you need permission, but I suspect credit would be appreciated. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Think you've seen modeling inconsistency here? Check out the NAM snow forecast for the plains for a storm already occurring. There are areas that the 12z NAM gave 0 inches of snow, that the 00z NAM gives 24 inches of snow. Boxing Day trend on HGH? 12z: http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NAMSFC4US_12z/snow60.gif 00z: http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NAMSFC4US_0z/snow60.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 wow at the nam HGH/Test combo for east central NEB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 wow at the nam HGH/Test combo for east central NEB extremely dynamic setup...surface low is "weak" in terms of pressure but strong in terms of dynamics driving it. powerhouse shortwave and terrific jet set up for banding. beautiful h7 comma head and dry slot as well as thermal packing evident at 850mb. miss seeing this on our side of the country. http://www.meteo.psu...CENT_0z/f36.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 extremely dynamic setup...surface low is "weak" in terms of pressure but strong in terms of dynamics driving it. powerhouse shortwave and terrific jet set up for banding. beautiful h7 comma head and dry slot as well as thermal packing evident at 850mb. miss seeing this on our side of the country. http://www.meteo.psu...CENT_0z/f36.gif The last dynamic snowstorm was Jan 26 2011... OR February 1-2 2011 for Midwest, now that was one hell of dynamic event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Think you've seen modeling inconsistency here? Check out the NAM snow forecast for the plains for a storm already occurring. There are areas that the 12z NAM gave 0 inches of snow, that the 00z NAM gives 24 inches of snow. Boxing Day trend on HGH? 12z: http://www.meteo.psu..._12z/snow60.gif 00z: http://www.meteo.psu...S_0z/snow60.gif that is insane. amazing how we saw that off our coast 3 times last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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