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Bust? No. No one here was forecasting anything over 1-3. We got less than 1 but I would not call that a bust by any means given that we never had any confidence in this being something significant. You talk like you know everything and its very disrespectful to us here who try to make a decent forecast.

I am a meteorologist, and it was a bust.

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Bust? No. No one here was forecasting anything over 1-3. We got less than 1 but I would not call that a bust by any means given that we never had any confidence in this being something significant. You talk like you know everything and its very disrespectful to us here who try to make a decent forecast.

The one thing that should have been done on those TV accumulation graphics was write that the accumulations will be on grassy surfaces only. In fact, when I saw Channel 7 last night at eleven, the anchor said plows were being ready in Huntington. If their meteorologist heard that, he should have said that Huntington can put the plows away.

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Had about a half inch this morning, and now another light dusting tonight. Definitely not a bust at all. Not as much as we had thought, but not a bust.

Bust? No. No one here was forecasting anything over 1-3. We got less than 1 but I would not call that a bust by any means given that we never had any confidence in this being something significant. You talk like you know everything and its very disrespectful to us here who try to make a decent forecast.

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One of the best spots in the East. Hows Golden Arrow? This will be our first time staying there. Below zero tonight?

I love it...stayed here numerous times, never once had any issues. Right on main street...ill walk up n down the street four or five times in the 3 days that im here lol. They have dog sled rides on the lake right out the back door, did it today, was great.

We should easily get below zero, down to 3 right now, just finished ice skating in front of the high school. I think the forecast is -9 now, gonna sit on the balcony and drink some lake placid pub & brewery Ubu Ale and people watch for a bit lol.

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Mirror Lake is gorgeous. I've been to Lake placid in the summer and winter. I went in early August 2004, where a few of the days I was there stayed in the low 50s and lows dipped into the 30s. The smell of burning wood was in the air and I visited the Christmas store in town. It felt more like the end of November than the dead of summer!

It's a great place to visit. I recommend it.

Its amazing up here in winter....every restaurant has an outdoor fire pit, toboggan chute and sleighriding are awesome....and a 10 minute drive to Whiteface. Its number one or two on my favorite places on Earth.

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Bust? No. No one here was forecasting anything over 1-3. We got less than 1 but I would not call that a bust by any means given that we never had any confidence in this being something significant. You talk like you know everything and its very disrespectful to us here who try to make a decent forecast.

um...if you interviewed 10 people on the street today I'd say 10 of 10 would say this was a fail.....every local newscast led off with the story of the snowtorm and showed pics of folks stocking up on salt, shovels and other winter related merchandise as well as plows hitting the roads....the general public was expecting a plowable event. I'd say a thin coating on the grass for an hour and nothing on the road constitutes a forecast bust (since no location even verified at the low end) with all due respect....on your other point, I do agree it was a tricky forecast.

And BTW I was merely answering another poster who was out of town who asked if it were a bust or not-was not trying to disrespect anyone.

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um...if you interviewed 10 people on the street today I'd say 10 of 10 would say this was a fail.....every local newscast led off with the story of the snowtorm and showed pics of folks stocking up on salt, shovels and other winter related merchandise as well as plows hitting the roads....the general public was expecting a plowable event. I'd say a thin coating on the grass for an hour and nothing on the road constitutes a forecast bust (since no location even verified at the low end) with all due respect....on your other point, I do agree it was a tricky forecast.

That is where news directors come in. A month ago, I speculated that because of the pattern, and the fact that winter weather brings in ratings, that they were going to hype even a minimal threat.

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It looks like someone SE of Philly is really cashing in probably 3 inches or more with several hours of 30dbz over there.

I had a 25 dbz band over my area for a couple of hours with that Norlun, and man was it nice.

I picked up an inch or two in a couple of hours, when it was falling.

It was wet snow, so it's not blowing around in the wind outside right now.

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Joe D from Weatherbell

As for the United States the pattern is evolving into one favorable for a snowstorm to finally get its act together with a block in a good spot in the Davis straights suppressing the storm track and jet over the lower 48. The is the PSD reanalysis ensembles that adjusts for GFS biases and shows better skill. It is not always run and when it is only once a day at 00Z. This was last nights 360 hour 500mb anomaly..

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I'm not critizicing anyone, b/c I know I say silly stuff quite often, but one of the most over used phrases whenever there is a storm possibility is the phase thrown around that "we have time to iron things out" - what this exactly means is a misnomer.. For example this weekend's event which ended up being quite different than what the NAM specifically stated a few days ago was "ironed out" (in the wrong direction) and we saw what we got..

The bottom line is that most storms never "iron out" the way we hope.. There is a reason why KU type storms are special events.. THEY ARE RARE!

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I'm not critizicing anyone, b/c I know I say silly stuff quite often, but one of the most over used phrases whenever there is a storm possibility is the phase thrown around that "we have time to iron things out" - what this exactly means is a misnomer.. For example this weekend's event which ended up being quite different than what the NAM specifically stated a few days ago was "ironed out" (in the wrong direction) and we saw what we got..

The bottom line is that most storms never "iron out" the way we hope.. There is a reason why KU type storms are special events.. THEY ARE RARE!

you are 110 % correct KU storms are rare but some folks around here think nothing of starting a thread mentioning a KU possibility and there is no threat of that at all right now.....

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