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Gastonwxman

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Surprised by all the cliff jumping in the model thread from the 18z NAM. I mean, it's the 18z NAM....

Yea but you want the 18z NAM to atleast give you some hints of something. It all goes to crap around hour 60 or so on the NAM. The problem right now and someone mentioned earlier is just the over all lack of cold air. I won't tag it dead until probably 00z tomorrow's runs but I'm certainly loosing some interest in it. We'll just have to see. If the GFS with all still has this same solution after 12z it's pretty much dead.

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Oh well, I need to get a new hobby, amazing how much my productivity goes in the crapper during weeks when we have a storm to track.

Tell me about it, I have about 4 projects at work and done NADA today lol..

See number 8 below.

Since this weekends possible storm is the first real threat of this depressing winter I thought I would review the usual chain of events that will occur in the storm thread.

1. Storm first appears X days out. Mass excitement reigns.

2. Models that do not agree are outliers.

3. A model that shows a good hit can not, by definition, be an outlier.

4. The words, "tomorrow we will know" will be posted multiple times every day until 24 hours before storm onset.

5. The words, "storm dynamics will generate it's own cold air" means we are screwed but would never admit it.

6. A run with no model showing the storm or a flip flop away from a storm will be followed by the words, "the models still don't have a good handle on this event." This will be followed by the words in number 4.

7. Analogs will be posted and previous events mentioned, that have no relationship to the current storm. Examples, March 1960, 1993.

8. As zero hour approaches someone will post, "it's a matter of nowcasting now". This means that despite 7 days and nights of model watching, loss of sleep, loss of productivity on our jobs and alienating our families we still won't know what is going to happen until it happens.

9. Many posts will appear that start with, "I can't understand why it is not......" Others will contain cuss words combined with the term "dry slot".

10. Someone will post that the 360 hour GFS looks interesting and send us all back to number 1.

ADDENDUM: Brick will be happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad.

And that is just the first 24 hours.

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Looks like it's not going to be cold enough this weekend for snow. It's just going to be miserable with temps in the 40s Sunday and rain.

And the models continue to be all over the place. No concensus at all.

A lot of things have to happen for there to be snow this weekend in my area. The models can't seem to agree on anything. There might be a chance, but I don't think it's going to happen.

Sounds like the GFS is all over the place with this weekend's storm. Every run is different.

Sounds like the Canadian model is our only hope.

We have to hope the Canadian is right and th eother models come around. All the other models right now are all rain or just a few flakes at the end.

I hope this is another case where the models show something 10 days out, loses it, and then shows it again a couple days before it hits.

You never really know what you will get around this area of NC when it comes to snow. That's both good and bad. Sometimes we get a surprise, and sometimes we get nothing. The models very rarely get it completely right. That's why forecasting snow in central NC is probably harder than anywhere else in the country.

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Is your Alzheimers acting up again? :whistle:

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8. As zero hour approaches someone will post, "it's a matter of nowcasting now". This means that despite 7 days and nights of model watching, loss of sleep, loss of productivity on our jobs and alienating our families we still won't know what is going to happen until it happens.

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Over 30,000 views in a day or two in the storm "threat" thread. That should show how god awful the winter has been right there. It's not gonna happen, it's literally entertainment at this point.

Yep. All we have left is a good cold shot near the end of the month. A storm will come in as that cold air is leaving and that will be it except for a late hard freeze to screw up the plants.

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8. As zero hour approaches someone will post, "it's a matter of nowcasting now". This means that despite 7 days and nights of model watching, loss of sleep, loss of productivity on our jobs and alienating our families we still won't know what is going to happen until it happens.

I was making fun of the fact that you posted twice that's all.

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I will be heading to W MD for the weekend if the 18z GFS has half a clue what is going on, which I doubt. Family there, what better time to visit.

You have to figure someone's going to cave tonight, whether it's the Euro/CMC or GFS/UK....I would love to see the 50-50 low start getting modeled stronger and stronger.

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Since this weekends possible storm is the first real threat of this depressing winter I thought I would review the usual chain of events that will occur in the storm thread.

1. Storm first appears X days out. Mass excitement reigns.

2. Models that do not agree are outliers.

3. A model that shows a good hit can not, by definition, be an outlier.

4. The words, "tomorrow we will know" will be posted multiple times every day until 24 hours before storm onset.

5. The words, "storm dynamics will generate it's own cold air" means we are screwed but would never admit it.

6. A run with no model showing the storm or a flip flop away from a storm will be followed by the words, "the models still don't have a good handle on this event." This will be followed by the words in number 4.

7. Analogs will be posted and previous events mentioned, that have no relationship to the current storm. Examples, March 1960, 1993.

8. As zero hour approaches someone will post, "it's a matter of nowcasting now". This means that despite 7 days and nights of model watching, loss of sleep, loss of productivity on our jobs and alienating our families we still won't know what is going to happen until it happens.

9. Many posts will appear that start with, "I can't understand why it is not......" Others will contain cuss words combined with the term "dry slot".

10. Someone will post that the 360 hour GFS looks interesting and send us all back to number 1.

ADDENDUM: Brick will be happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad, happy, sad.

And that is just the first 24 hours.

Watcha think jburns? It's not 360 hr GFS but looks good.

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