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February storm threat discussion


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System still there... but slides out to sea next Sunday

still worth watching but we need the northern stream to be a little less robust or the vortex to up in canada to be a little farther north to give the shouthern stream room to amplify a little more. That might cause its own temp problems but that would be better than having the southern stream system crushed.

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still worth watching but we need the northern stream to be a little less robust or the vortex to up in canada to be a little farther north to give the shouthern stream room to amplify a little more. That might cause its own temp problems but that would be better than having the southern stream system crushed.

So, as usual, we need to thread the needle and there are many problems with the storm. Same old story around here.

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In general, I really like the overall run of the GFS. Ridge out west is basically a permanent feature the entire run. If that holds, this is def a new pattern (and a good one). Flow is amplified throughout the run. Kinda senseless to get hung up on individual pieces of energy. I'm not very confident about having a stable ridge out west for 15 straight days though (especially when the euro is the opposite) but man, this is one good looking pattern to up our snow totals around here: http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/gfs/12zgfs500mbHGHTNHGFSLoop.html

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I was really hoping all the models would get behind the idea of a gulf low atleast

... It's nearly a week out. Even expecting that kind of consensus is outrageous especially in a year where the models have been bouncing around as much as they have. Come on...at least let rational thoughts prevail over weenie thoughts.

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18z has a slp east of HAT... Mod snow falling at 162

It does look pretty on that one frame but I think everyone is worn down from this winter. Nothing has worked out for us so unless it is on the Euro and GFS come Friday night the excitement level will be zilch. Just not our year

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It does look pretty on that one frame but I think everyone is worn down from this winter. Nothing has worked out for us so unless it is on the Euro and GFS come Friday night the excitement level will be zilch. Just not our year

Also even then, it's pretty east and also not a ton of precip either. Fringe :( not that it matters at this stage.

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I think the main thing here is that there is "something". There's really no way to know what that may be. Remember that in the past weeks "event" we went from a full blown coastal to a low near Iowa to a weaker low tracking e-w south of us. This time it seems the GFS, and not the Euro, is throwing out at least some hope, but it probably the best bet to just focus on Wed and maybe a little light snow and by then we might have some idea about the weekend.

Edit: GFS ens members don't support the op solution for the weekend at all.

I guess if I'm going to post HPC disco when it says what I like, then I guess I'll post it when it isn't so pretty.

CANADA IS COOLED TREMENDOUSLY VIA THE CROSS-POLAR FLOW

INTO THE COUNTRY...BUT THE ARCTIC AIR HAS NO MECHANISM BY WHICH TO

INFILTRATE THE UNITED STATES TO ANY APPRECIABLE DEGREE. THE FLOW

IS ALSO NOT CONDUCIVE TO SIGNIFICANT CYCLOGENESIS...SO EXPECT NO

SPRAWLING AREAS OF ORGANIZED PRECIPITATION.

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I think the main thing here is that there is "something". There's really no way to know what that may be. Remember that in the past weeks "event" we went from a full blown coastal to a low near Iowa to a weaker low tracking e-w south of us. This time it seems the GFS, and not the Euro, is throwing out at least some hope, but it probably the best bet to just focus on Wed and maybe a little light snow and by then we might have some idea about the weekend.

Edit: GFS ens members don't support the op solution for the weekend at all.

I guess if I'm going to post HPC disco when it says what I like, then I guess I'll post it when it isn't so

CANADA IS COOLED TREMENDOUSLY VIA THE CROSS-POLAR FLOW

INTO THE COUNTRY...BUT THE ARCTIC AIR HAS NO MECHANISM BY WHICH TO

INFILTRATE THE UNITED STATES TO ANY APPRECIABLE DEGREE. THE FLOW

IS ALSO NOT CONDUCIVE TO SIGNIFICANT CYCLOGENESIS...SO EXPECT NO

SPRAWLING AREAS OF ORGANIZED PRECIPITATION.

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... It's nearly a week out. Even expecting that kind of consensus is outrageous especially in a year where the models have been bouncing around as much as they have. Come on...at least let rational thoughts prevail over weenie thoughts.

You're asking for quite a lot there, Kenny.

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