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February storm threat discussion


Ellinwood

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GFS OP made a bit of a move toward the more robust guidance, but not enough on this run to give much...but there is some measurable now where 18z was dry.

Its actually a bit better than I made it sound here...6h its trying to really blow it up before it exits stage right. The temps are marginal though where the meaningful QPF is.

Its a step in the positive direction for sure though.

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Its actually a bit better than I made it sound here...6h its trying to really blow it up before it exits stage right. The temps are marginal though where the meaningful QPF is.

Its a step in the positive direction for sure though.

Is a north move lock step with warmer 850s? Like another push and it is rain or will the CAD hold in your opinion?

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Is a north move lock step with warmer 850s? Like another push and it is rain or will the CAD hold in your opinion?

I would actually think a better phase (to a point) would make it colder as heights would crash...you don't want it phased to the point where the sfc low is in Pittsburgh, but most of the runs that gave >3" of snow like the 12z Canadian and several of the GEFS members where phased a little better.

Its not a typical setup...and we wouldn't expect it to be anyway with a bizarre Rex Block over the middle of the country.

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i like a snowier than avg march with what ive looked at tho there really is basically no correlation even if it seems like there should be. of course a snowier than avg march is easy to do if it actually snows of consequence at least here.

Yeah.. what did interest me was RodneyS's analysis of torch Decembers straight through February's. We do get those cold months where we don't get much snow at all (the 1/09 style months). Not saying that's what you did, but just speaking for myself- when I just look at snowfall, it sometimes obscures the what actually happened in each month.

So a winter with one cold/dry month doesn't compare well to a winter that was warm until March.

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It may not hold, but I don't see how anyone can't be encouraged by the days turn of events. Is there any model out there that hasn't trended this toward a wetter/stronger solution?

Yes...it is awesome...just wish we had more wiggle room on 850s...wow, what a trend

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I would actually think a better phase (to a point) would make it colder as heights would crash...you don't want it phased to the point where the sfc low is in Pittsburgh, but most of the runs that gave >3" of snow like the 12z Canadian and several of the GEFS members where phased a little better.

Its not a typical setup...and we wouldn't expect it to be anyway with a bizarre Rex Block over the middle of the country.

Rgr...tks for the confidence boost...it does look pretty but a blue 540 line running through EZF would be reason to break out the blue label

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Yes...it is awesome...just wish we had more wiggle room on 850s...wow, what a trend

Seems like we lose more snow here (in an actual event where snow is possible) to lack of precip than lack of cold. I know that's what happened to me about 2 weeks ago, it happened in early December, it happened last January, it happened in March of 09, etc.

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