CoastalWx Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Yea, I wasn't a fan of the WSI scheme either. The in house stuff can be broken down to .10" increments I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 The in house stuff can be broken down to .10" increments I believe. I like how WSI prints it out on the model grid like it is and doesn't try to smooth it too much, sometimes too much smoothing can create problems...and that you can actually tell the difference between 0.10" and 0.25". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 per the 0z model suite thread, the 84hr NAM extrapolated to 144 looks good for the d6 event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 per the 0z model suite thread, the 84hr NAM extrapolated to 144 looks good for the d6 event EE Rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 per the 0z model suite thread, the 84hr NAM extrapolated to 144 looks good for the d6 event I think it looks terrible with that upper midwest s/w outrunning the southern stream....but interpolating the NAM beyond 84h speaks for itself regarding accuracy. There is that 2nd piece of energy rotating in from Canada, but that really doesn't look all that impressive....but who knows maybe the pv splits after that midwest s/w goes further east and we see a phase anyway...but its all probably an exercise in futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I think it looks terrible with that upper midwest s/w outrunning the southern stream....but interpolating the NAM beyond 84h speaks for itself regarding accuracy. There is that 2nd piece of energy rotating in from Canada, but that really doesn't look all that impressive....but who knows maybe the pv splits after that midwest s/w goes further east and we see a phase anyway...but its all probably an exercise in futility. I have a hard time seeing it on the psu ewall maps, but am I correct in thinking that the 00z Euro missed the phase on the 00z because the southern stream s/w is too slow for the midwest s/w? And then the 12z speeds up the southern stream s/w and we get some sort of phase? Really hard to tell on those maps what is going on. It doesn't even look like the GFS and Euro are phasing the southern stream with the same midwest s/w.. there's a 18 hr difference in timing of the storm along the East coast. Here's the map I'm thinking of from the 00z Euro.. the southern stream s/w is too slow to phase with the s/w over Wisconsin. But on the 12z run the southern stream s/w is 12 hours faster and phases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 I've been to this place a few times. Chilly night... KELO 140313Z AUTO 00000KT 10SM CLR M29/M32 A3025 RMK AO2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 are ya s ready for this run or what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 per the 0z model suite thread, the 84hr NAM extrapolated to 144 looks good for the d6 event WTF? How do you extrapolate the NAM to that far out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 WTF? How do you extrapolate the NAM to that far out? Well Will tried and failed, obviously buckeye is much smarter than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 WTF? How do you extrapolate the NAM to that far out? You're better for not knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Well Will tried and failed, obviously buckeye is much smarter than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I have a hard time seeing it on the psu ewall maps, but am I correct in thinking that the 00z Euro missed the phase on the 00z because the southern stream s/w is too slow for the midwest s/w? And then the 12z speeds up the southern stream s/w and we get some sort of phase? Really hard to tell on those maps what is going on. It doesn't even look like the GFS and Euro are phasing the southern stream with the same midwest s/w.. there's a 18 hr difference in timing of the storm along the East coast. Here's the map I'm thinking of from the 00z Euro.. the southern stream s/w is too slow to phase with the s/w over Wisconsin. But on the 12z run the southern stream s/w is 12 hours faster and phases. Yes, on the two Euro solutions, its the southern stream and N stream out of phase there...you can see how ugly it looked on that 00z map with the northern stream way out ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Well GFS looks like it would favor more of NNE than SNE for snow showers on Wednesday...keeps all the precip up north and all the moisture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Well GFS looks like it would favor more of NNE than SNE for snow showers on Wednesday...keeps all the precip up north and all the moisture. Wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Wrong thread. All these different threads are highly confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 All these different threads are highly confusing. it says D6 moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Early going this run very similar to 18Z based on H5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I think the GFS may miss. PV looks a lot different.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Early going this run very similar to 18Z based on H5. Really? I see some big differences by 6z Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Really? I see some big differences by 6z Saturday. There's now two shortwaves over the northern tier vs just 1 at 18z...we have a potent one in Michigan and another just N of ND whereas 18z just had one in MN. Bizarre....it still might produce a decent storm though, we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 There's now two shortwaves over the northern tier vs just 1 at 18z...we have a potent one in Michigan and another just N of ND whereas 18z just had one in MN. Bizarre....it still might produce a decent storm though, we'll see. I think the southern s/w looks great but we're getting no help from the now 2 northern stream s/ws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Bottom of the trof is identical....it's Canada that's different but subtly. Trof is trying to sharpen but is it in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Whiff SE this time...not by much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 hype on the radio show for 132 hrs, i can't see it that far out though cause either this computers fooked or the site im on is fooked? i also dont have any freaking idea what this guy is saying since he's giggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 I suppose this is not bad at this point given the model. It's trying to go neg and do a last minute save but probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Bottom of the trof is identical....it's Canada that's different but subtly. Trof is trying to sharpen but is it in time? Whiff! Phil gets some flurries at least No phasing... out of phase for sure. Nasty negative tilt southern s/w just can't rip NW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Not listening to the show but hype is probably ORF getting a modest snow event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Whiff! Phil gets some flurries at least No phasing... out of phase for sure. Nasty negative tilt southern s/w just can't rip NW. Close enough.....6 days out on GFS...I'm fine with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 hype on the radio show for 132 hrs, i can't see it that far out though cause either this computers fooked or the site im on is fooked? i also dont have any freaking idea what this guy is saying since he's giggling. Classic 2010 run....alL you need to know. Congrats, W Palm Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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